State v Bradley Cooper 4-27-2011

[phillygirl]

Donna Lopez, who didn't know Nancy before the evening of 7/11/08, had a gut feeling she could not ignore. She said she felt something bad was going to happen over in that house (Cooper residence). No one's pointing the finger of suspicion at her, and her gut feeling was 100% correct. Why the need to blame Nancy's friends when they developed the feeling that something was wrong on Sat 7/12?[/QUOTE

No one is blaming the friends. Incidentally, her husband cleared that up from the stand today- she wasn't being a psychic and predicting something bad was going to happen in the house, she meant that the marriage when she said things wouldn't end well. Listen to his testimony.

 

[Tink56]

I think HM posts. I really do. Will be interesting to see if she is called as a witness - or did I already miss that since I've missed a bunch in the last couple days.

LOL....I agree about HM and a strong hunch one of our "computer experts" could be related to BC...

 

[gracielee]

He claimed that she told him about the spill as soon as he got to the party. He was there. No one at home. She had an opportunity to run home and change according to his story. Not one other person including the married couple called by the defense today testified to a stain on Nancy's dress.

Yeah, on the 'hate brad' day, of all the people at the party, she told brad about the nonexistent red wine spill. Right. As you said, no one at home, but no, nancy walked around all night with a red wine spill on her dress and told no one else but brad.

 

[sunshine05]

Especially when they could have sprinkled a bit of dirt from the crime scene onto his floorboard and take the rest of the week off!

I still question why they tested the mica from the shoes BC wore while searching for his wife. I have to wonder who made that decision and why? It added absolutely nothing to the case.

 

[unc70]

Have you ever tried to get red wine out of something?

Wine Away. The only thing I have found that works.

Does a good job even when stain has "set".

Worst example of full glass of red dumped on an ex and her cashmere sweater. That took three or four treatments, but still got it.

 

[ncsu95]

Yeah, the whole Google search thing is hard to overcome.

On one hand, it almost seems too good of a smoking gun. It just worked out almost too well that he searched the dump site and he did it within 24 hours of killing her.

But, on the other hand, you have to be a pretty serious conspiracy theorist to believe that it didn't happen. I think that all of the "neighbor hacking into his WiFi and laptop" stuff is just silly. So, if you dismiss that, you have to assume LE corruption. I think that we can agree that the CPD is not technically competent enough to have hacked the files and gotten it right. So, that leaves the FBI/Durham PD loaner guy. It seems unlikely to me that he would risk his career for..... what? Just to help the CPD? Seems doubtful.

MOO.

But why did there have to be controversy around it. Why couldn't this have been simple? :banghead: Why did all of the files associated with the time he made that search have to have invalid timestamps? This would be so much easier if that evidence wasn't in question. But, very unfortunately, it is.

 

[SleuthinNC]

LOL....I agree about HM and a strong hunch one of our "computer experts" could be related to BC...

Oh which one? Is it me? So much scandal and finger pointing. Shows me the defense is gaining serious ground.

 

[Danielle59]

Indeed, one the many statements BC has made which is contradicted by evidence or reason. Explaining them all away, as if at every turn every person who ever tells something different than BC is either a jealous chattering neighbor or a sophisticated member of a secret conspiracy to me ignores the obvious, to wit he is somebody who lied about facts in this case.

What statement did he make about a Fielding Dr search that is in question that is contradicted? The supposed search on Fielding Dr on the 11th can't be validated because of National Security, we don't even know if he did the search, the supposed evidence is in question. It is even more in question since the LEO talking about it wants us to believe that Fielding Dr was the geographical center of a search on 27518 when Fielding Dr was never even in that zip code.

 

[Cheyenne130]

Yeah, on the 'hate brad' day, of all the people at the party, she told brad about the nonexistent red wine spill. Right. As you said, no one at home, but no, nancy walked around all night with a red wine spill on her dress and told no one else but brad.

And no one else even noticed it!

 

[CaryFrom NJ]

IMO, Yes.

Why are you so adamantly convinced it was not red wine??? Help me understand

 

[phillygirl]

You'd forget someone you were engaged to? I'd find that hard to believe; it's not like the guy was 89 or had been engaged to 30 women - this was a woman he was involved with not long before NC. But of course, she wanted "revenge" for something we don't know about, like CPD wants to "get him" via conspiracy.

I don't argue you have to conclude he lies, but to me the tunnel vision of anything he says is inherently reasonable and anyone stating anything contradictory must be mistaken or untrustworthy or guilty of creating false evidence is giving him way too much credit.

He also couldn't remember the name of his nephew (brother's child) which I found sad at first but it really goes to his character. He wasn't a huggy, touchy feely guy and some people just aren't. Also, my mind goes blank trying to remember what it was I went into the grocery store for. I can't imagine 6 hours of deposition when your children are being taken from you and trying to remember names, dates, details.

 

[Madeleine74]

Here is where I question what feeling her friend felt that Sat - obviously BC and NC were fighting for quite some time. She was in hate mode many times before this Friday night. Why all of a sudden the big concern at that particular point in time? Sure, they were overheard arguing at the Fri night party, but they also fought in public before (daycare). And it didn't sound like the fight at the party that Fri was very loud, etc.
No one testified that NC was particularly concerned about her safety that night. So - why the sudden gut feeling? Just seems so coincidental. Alll of a sudden their friend is murdered and a stranger had a "gut" feeling. Really????

I am anot blaming NC's friends, but I still find it VERY odd that JA was so concerned when NC was out running for only 1 hour before getting worried. And she changed the painting time from 9 am to 8 am. But, still said she was in bed at 8am. Just doesn't add up

For one thing, Nancy was not someone who would just blow off plans and disappear. Her friends' experiences over time led them to understand how Nancy was, whether she was reliable or not, whether she was punctual or not. These friends were with Nancy a lot, talking to her if not every day, almost every day. That's the testimony.

Have you never gotten an intuitive feeling? I sure have a few times, and they've been downright spooky. One was the night I found out my brother had died--got a weird gut feeling something big and bad was happening, about 3 hrs before I got the call. And yes it was completely unexpected.

Donna Lopez got that feeling. Nancy's friends felt something was off that day. JA testimony is not that she was worried after 1 hr. She called the first time around 9:30 - 10am to see where Nancy was. By the time JA got really worried, Nancy had been gone for nearly 6 hrs and did not bother to call, leaving 2 young kids and not showing up for plans in the morning or the afternoon. Why do you think they checked hospitals in the area? In case NC had been injured during what they thought was a morning run. Brad told them Nancy left around 7am. JA call to NON emergency police number was after 1pm.

You can discount human intuition but it does exist and sometimes you simply can't ignore it.

 

[Tink56]

Why are you so adamantly convinced it was not red wine??? Help me understand

I don't firmly hold any belief about the stain except the forensic specialist stated that in her professional opinion it was a grease-based (I don't remember the term she used, but it essentially meant the same) stain. That doesn't sound like wine, IMO...Sorry Cheyenne...don't mean to interrupt!

 

[CaryFrom NJ]

Yeah, on the 'hate brad' day, of all the people at the party, she told brad about the nonexistent red wine spill. Right. As you said, no one at home, but no, nancy walked around all night with a red wine spill on her dress and told no one else but brad.

Well, the same can be said for NC and BC's plans with the Hillers the following night to get together. If she was in such a "hate mode" why make plans to get together with another couple and the husband you "hate".

It could have been a small red wine spill. Noone suggested it overtook the top half of her dress. She could have tried to clean it. Maybe it wasn't that big of a deal. Why are you BDI folk so convinced it was not red wine?

 

[Cheyenne130]

Why are you so adamantly convinced it was not red wine??? Help me understand

I'm going by what Brad said in his depo. He said that Nancy told him that she spilled wine on her dress. The female friend witness today testified that she was drinking red wine. I'm going by what's in testimony.

 

[johnfear]

Before I get the banhammer, as to #2, did you also keep her love letters in a box in a closet for 10 years even after you were married?

Oh, even WORSE. I found a non-nude but provocative photo from like fifteen years ago and a napkin with something incriminating "snoochy-poo" note in a box of books I'd kept from college like four years into a marriage that couldn't even stand to have a magnifying glass lifted over it.

I have never cheated.
I have never been to a strip club.
I have never paid for sex.

I have done everything else wrong you can possibly imagine (non-criminal) when it comes to relationships.

 

[unc70]

I think the defense team should show up tomorrow wearing duck ties.

I got out-bid for the Alexander Julian "sitting-duck" tie from "The Player" that Tim Robbins wore when being interviewed by the police.

 

[gritguy]

I still question why they tested the mica from the shoes BC wore while searching for his wife. I have to wonder who made that decision and why? It added absolutely nothing to the case.

you've got me on that one. around then was about the low point of the state's case for me. that sort of thing, along with details like the missing ducks, did not help and, at least in the ducks, has come back badly. i'd have preferred they stuck with a tighter narrative, more focused, and probably a shorter delivery without so much neighborhood testimony. but, i'm not a prosecutor.

 

[Cheyenne130]

I don't firmly hold any belief about the stain except the forensic specialist stated that in her professional opinion it was a grease-based (I don't remember the term she used, but it essentially meant the same) stain. That doesn't sound like wine, IMO...Sorry Cheyenne...don't mean to interrupt!

Oh no. I think we're talking about two different things. (Me and the other poster.) The stain found by the SBI could have come at any time after Nancy was alive wearing that dress. And after it was washed by Brad. MOO

 

[Tink56]

Oh which one? Is it me? So much scandal and finger pointing. Shows me the defense is gaining serious ground.

Oh dang...what's your orientation-BDDI OR BDI? I am so impressed by all the computer information, I can't keep everyone's WS Name in the correct column...:innocent: