Suspect - Daniel Heinrich #2

[Sasquatch321]

Huh? What evidence? Haven't you been reading it's been posted on here also. Evidence has been entered into court records placing Heinrich at the scene of the crime.

I have to admit I"m quite surprised. This is getting crazy. Like I said, what they have done with DR in the public light is beyond forgiveness if they had the match the entire time.

 

[ELOCsoul]

Oh I think they have enough to convict Heinrich for the Wetterling case based on the court evidence. It's a matter now of using leverage to get answers for the family.

I tend to agree with you. I think what would be required to prosecute without a body, though, is that Jacob would have to be declared legally dead. Not sure that is likely to happen though. The circumstantial evidence against Heinrich is extremely strong, IMO, but there are factors that I have mentioned previously, which may cause trouble for the prosecution, particularly with regard to the Paynesville victims.

 

[ELOCsoul]

It took me a while to " catch on " to this.
I had to learn for myself I guess�� I think I stood up for her at one point, not knowing different, and came down on YOU, nmogren, so sorry��

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Count me in here, too. Even though a few others warned me - lesson learned!

 

[human]

Huh? What evidence? Haven't you been reading it's been posted on here also. Evidence has been entered into court records placing Heinrich at the scene of the crime.

Same evidence they had day 1 that was not enough. What has changed?

 

[ELOCsoul]

Same evidence they had day 1 that was not enough. What has changed?

100% DNA match to Jared's case, which has been strongly linked to Jacob's kidnapping from day 1.

 

[human]

100% DNA match to Jared's case, which has been strongly linked to Jacob's kidnapping from day 1.

It is great that they linked Jared, but what has that got to do with Jacob? It does not prove he did it. The footprints and tire prints were not enough before.

 

[British99]

Same evidence they had day 1 that was not enough. What has changed?

Human answer this question, why would they enter into court evidence and state that it puts Heinrich at the scene of the Wetterling crime scene? Do you think they are just winging it? This is a legal court proceeding, the real deal. Your thoughts?

 

[human]

Yes, why? Are they using it somehow for the *advertiser censored*? He has not been charged, so why would they write it?

It is a mystery to me. Can you clarify please? Can you clarify why the prints now can be used as evidence and before it was not enough?

 

[British99]

Human here is the information once again. They tie Heinrich to the Wetterling crime. Sets up what is to come imo. Getting ready to put full court pressure in him.

"The presence of the defendant’s DNA on the sleeve of the Cold Spring victim, the similarity of manner in which the attacks were conducted, their geographic proximity, the sexual motivation of the offenses, the similarity of ages and gender of the victims, the similar physical description of the suspect, the tire tracks and footprints at the scene of the Wetterling abduction — all link the offenses to each other and to the defendant," the court document says."

What do you think human?

 

[jaredscheierl]

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[human]

Human here is the information once again. They tie Heinrich to the Wetterling crime. Sets up what is to come imo. Getting ready to put full court pressure in him.

"The presence of the defendant’s DNA on the sleeve of the Cold Spring victim, the similarity of manner in which the attacks were conducted, their geographic proximity, the sexual motivation of the offenses, the similarity of ages and gender of the victims, the similar physical description of the suspect, the tire tracks and footprints at the scene of the Wetterling abduction — all link the offenses to each other and to the defendant," the court document says."

What do you think human?

I think it must be him. Otherwise, it is a huge coincidence and things can happen that we do not imagine. Seems very miniscule that it is not him. I still do not see that it is enough evidence. For me, it is pretty good, but for a court of law, the standards are really high. Casey Anthony had far more damning evidence and she got off.

 

[Sasquatch321]

I think it must be him. Otherwise, it is a huge coincidence and things can happen that we do not imagine. Seems very miniscule that it is not him. I still do not see that it is enough evidence. For me, it is pretty good, but for a court of law, the standards are really high. Casey Anthony had far more damning evidence and she got off.

It simply can't be. I can't understand the actions between 2004 and 2010 if it is. When Kevin came forward, why change your theory to something totally away from the evidence, instead of naming Heinrich a poi then?

 

[British99]

I think it must be him. Otherwise, it is a huge coincidence and things can happen that we do not imagine. Seems very miniscule that it is not him. I still do not see that it is enough evidence. For me, it is pretty good, but for a court of law, the standards are really high. Casey Anthony had far more damning evidence and she got off.

I agree it is him. As far as Anthony that was a jury trial, she had no previous record and you never know what a jury will do. A little different than Heinrich. Now it's time for him to sing.

One other thing to note that they reference Heinrich 's physical characteristics match also. Leads me to believe that the boys that Jacob was with have also ID Heinrich in the abduction of Jacob.

 

[Sasquatch321]

I agree it is him. As far as Anthony that was a jury trial, she had no previous record and you never know what a jury will do. A little different than Heinrich. Now it's time for him to sing.

LE had the match in 1990, but they named DR a POI first in 2010. Patty repetitively heard DAH and Heinrichs name being used in the same sentence since 1990, but asked DR to confess first in 2009. Help me out guys.

 

[human]

I agree it is him. As far as Anthony that was a jury trial, she had no previous record and you never know what a jury will do. A little different than Heinrich. Now it's time for him to sing.

One other thing to note that they reference Heinrich 's physical characteristics match also. Leads me to believe that the boys that Jacob was with have also ID Heinrich in the abduction of Jacob.

The initial ID did not match. They said,he was about 5'10", Heinrich is a tiny guy. I forget his height. How could the boys Id
him at this time? I think a court would consider a 26 year later ID as very tenuous.

I truly hope,that this works out, but the evidence that we publicly see is very thin.

 

[cGorg]

The initial ID did not match. They said,he was about 5'10", Heinrich is a tiny guy. I forget his height. How could the boys Id
him at this time? I think a court would consider a 26 year later ID as very tenuous.

I truly hope,that this works out, but the evidence that we publicly see is very thin.

The height issue has been discussed ad nauseum. Heinrich is 5'-5" or so. DR is 6'2". The boys in their panic would not be able to decipher the exact height. However.....they had reference to their perception in that Jerry Wetterling is 6'-2" or 6'-1" and their neighbor Merle is 5'10".....they chose the latter in their conversation with the 911 call operator. So my point is the abductor would have loomed large in the eyes of 3 small boys-relatively so....but it's telling to me that they used Merle as a reference for size. And as I recall it was Trevor who made the comparison. The description they gave is on the shorter side....not the taller side.

 

[Sillybilly]

There are numerous articles on the web regarding child witnesses (up until teen years) having difficulty with body descriptions.

The Handbook of Eyewitness Psychology:
https://books.google.ca/books?id=02...&q=child witnesses height description&f=false

 

[cGorg]

LE had the match in 1990, but they named DR a POI first in 2010. Patty repetitively heard DAH and Heinrichs name being used in the same sentence since 1990, but asked DR to confess first in 2009. Help me out guys.

I wish I could help. THAT is a great question. Maybe the ultimate question.

 

[cGorg]

There are numerous articles on the web regarding child witnesses (up until teen years) having difficulty with body descriptions.

The Handbook of Eyewitness Psychology:
https://books.google.ca/books?id=02...&q=child witnesses height description&f=false

Maybe so.....but the boys would go with what they know....IMHO.

btw....I will side with the boys that were there.

 

[Trackergd]

It simply can't be. I can't understand the actions between 2004 and 2010 if it is. When Kevin came forward, why change your theory to something totally away from the evidence, instead of naming Heinrich a poi then?

Is it possible that SCSD was intently looking at the tire tracks, working the theory that they belonged to the abductor and when Kevin came forward, they threw up their hands thinking they had been chasing a red herring? Remember the era...limited forensic science technology....

We were not privy to the information exchange between the FBI and SCSD. There is a gap in the information we have available to evaluate.