Terri 's e-mails on KATU 08.09.2010

[SmoothOperator]

Have you tried to get an appointment with a doctor lately? Around here at least, you're lucky if you can get one inside of a month. And we don't know what doctor it was with (regular doctor or specialist) or what the requirements of Kaine's health insurance might be (for example if specialist visits may have to be pre-approved). Also possible she talked to the doc and he gave her forms for the teacher to fill out, perhaps asked her to keep some sort of "log" of Kyron's episodes of spacing out, etc.

I think what everyone is referring to is not making an appt to take your child to the doctor to just get them "checked out" as Terri said but rather I think most moms would agree that if we thought our child were having A SEIZURE much less SEIZURES(as in plural) that there would be no waiting for an appt to "check him out" THEY WOULD GO TO THE ER IMMEDIATELY.

Just as someone stated a few posts up ER's and dr.s do not take this lightly rather they are quite concerned and IMMEDIATELY start deducing what the problem is...

 

[Calliope]

Do you suspect he engineered Kyron's disappearance?

Noooooo.

The talk was speculating if Kyron had been drugged to cause this behavior, and wondering if baby had been as well (as she was described as being a different child now, or something to that effect). I was jumping off that post.

 

[shorty42404]

School witnesses are going to be very critical. who saw Kyron at school after 9? Why is Terri so sure on June 5th that so many saw Kyron at school after 9 - and "it" happened before 10?

I've known a couple pathological liars in my lifetime.. and sometimes there is a little bit of truth in their lies. This is what I thought of when she mentioned certain times. Especially this one...it's a possiblity she knows this was the time "it" happened.

 

[froginTtown]

...:shocked2:..Maybe, Just maybe we are getting somewhere...:shocked2:

and a few of these::: raying:

 

[LotsaLatte]

In one of the emails - "Sometime between 9-10 we think it happened".....this bothers me. I'm not sure why it bothers me since she may be answering another email or simply referring to his disappearance as "it".
I'm thinking that maybe IF terri is responsible, that this might be a "little truth" among all the untruths. KWIM?

 

[Chili Fries]

BBM

We didn't see the entire emails. If you look at the screen captures each of the quotes is followed by elipses ( ... ) to denote that the email continued on.

I am wondering if KATU plans on spreading the contents of the emails out over several days.

My guess is that the rest of the e-mail(s) included personal things about the person she wrote them to so that's why KATU didn't show them in their entirety.

 

[debirlfan]

And conveniently she saved the receipt for a lollipop?

If she's anything like me, the receipt would have ended up either:
In the bag with whatever I purchased.
On the floor of the truck (especially if I took the purchase out of the bag).
In my wallet/purse where I stuffed my change from the transaction.

Either way, I should be able to find it that afternoon /the next day (although it might take me a little while...)

 

[xin]

Why would you be emailing people the next day anyway? If people were blaming me and I was innocent I would say "Good for them Im trying to find my kid right now so I really dont care what people think". I dont even think I'd be emailing anyone after 2 months of my kid being gone, unless for some reason it was gonna help me find him.

She was trying to create a record, like getting the school mixed up about the doctor, creating mystery around Kyron's general health, going to Fred Meyer's where she would be seen and would get a receipt, but of course, this email pile (and we just know there are more) is a big fail. Also to come, my bet is multiple cell phones and etc.

imo

 

[Mamietwo]

I wonder though ....

Kaine talked about Kyron not paying attention in school, and how they had to get on him telling him he had to listen to adults there, and so on.

IF Kyron was experiencing something like this, that could have been a subtle symptom that they simply didn't recognize.

But apparently one of them thinks they recognized the symptom but just didn't tell the other one? If Kaine knew about Kyron not paying attention in school and they had to "get on him" to listen, etc., then Terri also knew that. But then Terri goes and elaborates on the mini seizure idea but doesn't tell Kaine. Her web is in need of serious repair, I'm thinking.

 

[eyes4crime]

In the beginning when the search behind the school began - I never understood why LE (FBI) profiled Kyron as a wanderer. The E-mail explains that possibility with the symptoms Terri gave - and the doc suggesting the possibility of mini-seizures. Thinking that Kyron wandered behind the school based on the symptoms now makes more sense to me.

I think I understand why LE searched with such intensity behind the school. Does anyone else agree? And if Terri made the symptoms up for the doc - I can see why LE, Desiree, and Kaine would be furious with Terri. lots of wasted time.

 

[joshiesmom]

I would think that Fred Meyer's is pretty together, I have faith in Fred Meyer's operation. Been there many many times. Love that place. Everything you can think of. Can't really imagine going to Freddy's and not finding what I wanted. Seems funny that Fred's would be out of much. We wonder what she was looking for, and bought.

imo

I've gone to Fred Meyer to get soy ice cream for my autistic son and when the local store doesn't have it, I drive 30 miles to the Fred Meyer in the neighboring town to see if that one has it since no other store in our town carries the brand & flavor that my child will eat.

My point? I can believe that a person would go to a FM for something (like homeopathic teething tablets, perhaps), not find it, then drive to another FM to see if that store had the product versus going to a different store altogether (like Albertson's or Wal*Mart).

As for her 'oversharing' the timeline, maybe police asked her to write out her day and she did. Maybe the friend she was emailing with asked her what she'd been doing that day and she was not "oversharing," just answering the question asked. Perhaps the same friend asked what the police thought happened and Terri was going through different options (wandered away, abducted by a stranger, abducted by a family member) and then plugging in information that would maybe be clues for each option. I guess that since we don't have the full context of the emails, it's hard for me to judge. I also know that my personality is such that if I were being falsely accused, I would be "oversharing" to try and prove my innocence to anyone I could, so I can understand why Terri appeared to be doing the same thing and therefore it doesn't seem hinky to me in the slightest.

And as for Kaine possibly not knowing about Kyron having mini seizures or any other health issue, I can see that happening. Like others said, he had no clue about his wife's health concerns, so I don't think it's a stretch to think he'd have missed something going on with Kyron. Lots of parents are not up-to-speed about medical things and don't immediately recognize a problem at first. Also, when one of my daughters was having symptoms consistent with possible seizures, it was not considered an emergent situation. The ped referred us to the neurologist, who scheduled an EEG for the following week (it had taken a few weeks to get in with the neurologist, too). When that didn't show anything, she had an MRI about a week later. A lot of tests can't be done that same day ~ if a child needs sedation for an MRI, that has to be scheduled when an anesthesiologist is available to be there. Perhaps I'm not like the majority of parents, but I don't rush my kids to the ER for anything that isn't a true emergency, so I can't fault Terri or Kaine for not rushing Kyron to the ER once the doctor said he suspected Kyron may be having seizures.

Maybe she was setting up an alibi with the emails. Maybe she's telling the absolute truth. Time will tell, I hope.

 

[Haeve]

The lady doth protest too much, methinks.

Hamlet Act 3, scene 2, 222–230

:rose::takeabow:

Thanks were not enough!

 

[Cher352]

“They are blaming me in the blogs. I just want to scream,” she wrote in one e-mail to a KATU News source the day after her stepson, Kyron Horman vanished from Skyline School during a science fair.

http://www.katu.com/news/local/100323934.html

It wasn't on the screen shots, but was in there written report.

I saw that too.

I guess that means that we didn't see the entire emails then...right?

I want to see the entire emails!!!

 

[LotsaLatte]

But did she find the medicine and have a receipt for it from the other Fred Meyer? I'm still wondering why she didn't get the medicine at one of the many other stores closer the the first Fred Meyer (if it was an otc med)

 

[nurseratchett]

I'm with you and I call b.* to that. Smacks rather a lot of blaming the victim to me and on that date to be already playing these cards (1.) look at my busy day I am an open book see where I was at 11:23 (2.) there is something wrong with those people at that school they just aren't responsible and (3.) besides there's something weird about Kyron anyway ~ wow, a virtual red-flag festival.

Thanks button just not enough for this concise, yet complete analysis.
My thoughts exactly.

 

[xin]

Even Susan Smith in SC made tearful statements about bringing home her little boys after she drowned them in the lake. At least felt some remorse even though she was lying!

The only person similar to TH's behavior (imo) is Scott Peterson, the sociopath. But he had his story figured out and had no accomplices, and it's looking like Terri may have had more than one, so this is more complicated.

Sandra Cantu a bit as well..
IMO

 

[debirlfan]

would you call a friend and tell her that people suspect her?

Yeah, I'd be warning her that she'd better have her i's dotted and her t's crossed - and probably be advising her to get a lawyer.

 

[Mamietwo]

In one of the emails - "Sometime between 9-10 we think it happened".....this bothers me. I'm not sure why it bothers me since she may be answering another email or simply referring to his disappearance as "it".
I'm thinking that maybe IF terri is responsible, that this might a "little truth" among all the untruths. KWIM?

I know what you mean. It bothers me because the whole email had been about Terri and what SHE did and at what time SHE did it, and then there's this WE think. The WE think thing struck me as her putting that in there to make it look like the rest of the family and she are in agreement----they are standing together in this.

 

[bessie]

Bringing this forward: Here is the transcription (screen caps) of the E-Mails = the Dr. speculates about mini-seizures. Not much here that can't be verified by LE.

A doctor -- pediatrician, no less -- "thinks" a patient might be having mini seizures, sight unseen, and tells the parent to bring the child in next week? Really!? I've known some crappy doctors, but that's just crazy. I think "mini seizures" might have been Terri's diagnosis.

 

[craftybatchy]

Kyron acting weird - can't remember anything, staring behavior, walk into room and back out again - mini seizures???

It is being reported that TH was upset during the two weeks prior to KH disappearance. It stands to reason that whatever this upset may have been also included escalating household tensions. Children have some pretty amazing coping mechanisms - not the least if which is disassociation. Disassociation could account for the staring behavior. If a child is disassociating to an extent that their overall function is disrupted, they may display increased forgetfulness. I often hear many kids in crisis respond to questions with the standard *I dunno* and *I forget*.

Walking into room and back out again.

If KH entered a room and encountered an individual with whom he was not comfortable, he very well could have simply turned around and left immediately. If this behavior was repeated again and again within a short time span, it could also be symptomatic of OCD. New or increased stressors within the home environment are well known to exacerbate repetitious behaviors in young children who are otherwise neurotypical.