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Another thought: If GB had lived in PA, it is possible Seka's parents did, too. There were and still are many Croatians living there. I believe Seka was of Croatian origin. A newspaper "Zajedničar" published by the Croatian Fraternal Union has a huge circulation. Would it be a good idea to have an article published in it about Anna? Perhaps someone would remember Seka and her family and/or GB.

At the time of Brody's letters to Seka's parents, they were living in Belgrade.

This possible Yugoslavian connection is intriguing. I have generally dismissed the Seka information in the past because she came onto the scene after Anna disappeared, but a possible scenario that is plausible is that the two Georges sent Anna to live with Seka's parents and then returned the "favor" by helping Seka when she came to the U.S. a couple of years later. This line of investigation has possibilities...
 
Dr. Doogie, I am not aware of any adoption reunion sights for the former Yugoslavia. I will investigate this.
If Seka's parents lived in Belgrade, then we could contact a Belgrade paper. Also, there is a blog community where we could post messages and photos. Actually, it may not hurt to do this also for Croatia.

Of course, I will be glad to translate and make contacts.

Annasmom, would you approve of something like that?
 
Dr. Doogie, I am not aware of any adoption reunion sights for the former Yugoslavia. I will investigate this.
If Seka's parents lived in Belgrade, then we could contact a Belgrade paper. Also, there is a blog community where we could post messages and photos. Actually, it may not hurt to do this also for Croatia.

Of course, I will be glad to translate and make contacts.

Annasmom, would you approve of something like that?
Yes, indeed, I would approve. I will search for the Seka correspondence this morning. I remember one very long letter from Brody to either Seka or her parents which said something like "say hello to the Danube for me".
 
I'll try to attach pictures of three letters. The one addressed to Seka's parents and brother was written in longhand, but typed. Because the handwritten letter was creased, wadded up and then straightened out, it seemed as if it had been discarded and then retrieved, probably by GW, who I believe typed it. Not sure how I can attach these JPEGs, but if I can't, I'll send them to Sherlock.
 

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Obviously, my assumption about Seka being Croatian was wrong. The mention of Dunav river does suggest her parents lived in Serbia.

I gather from the letters she had a brother and her parents were upset with George's influence. Was there an address in Belgrade?

What leads you to believe Seka's name was Ingrid?

Thanks.
 
Obviously, my assumption about Seka being Croatian was wrong. The mention of Dunav river does suggest her parents lived in Serbia.

I gather from the letters she had a brother and her parents were upset with George's influence. Was there an address in Belgrade?

What leads you to believe Seka's name was Ingrid?

Thanks.

There was no address. There is at least one more document addressed to "Dear Little Tito", but it is in that horrible Box and I'm not anxious to go through that again unless it is necessary. I'm not sure where the idea of an Ingrid came from. We were looking at Sigrids at one point, thinking "Seka" might be a diminutive of that name, but your explanation of the name really rules that out.

Because the professional analysis by Peggy Walla of George Brody's handwriting appears far back in Forum posts, I am re-posting it here, for what it's worth.
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Handwriting suggest weak boundaries between conscious thought processes and unconscious drives and urges. The writer lacks integration and is incongruent in emotional or ideational processes. Letters indicate the writer's deficiency in handling situations with moral distinction or judgment, since the person operates in “the sphere outside the sphere in which moral distinctions or judgments apply” (Alfred Mendel, 1947). Letters suggest corruption and a lack of morality. The writer may have little regard for laws or rules made by others, and can be a law unto self. He or she may, for example, strike out when a gesture of friendship is expected—a blow in place of a handshake (Mendel). A serious disturbance in self-concept.
Extreme decisiveness and/or forcefulness. Brutality or cruelty. It may indicate a “hit first, ask questions later” impulsiveness. Pervasive characterological anger (conscious or unconscious) and may indicate a disturbed self-concept.
Inner frustration at the inability to follow through with one’s own desires. Caustic feelings and reactions toward people. Usually there is a deep inner desire to punish. A tendency towards sarcasm and mental cruelty is indicated. Such anger may or may not be expressed physically, depending on other characteristics. Strokes are frequently found in the handwriting of people who like to use weapons, especially sharp instruments.
The writer likes conflict and competition. This fighting spirit may be on an intellectual level. May also indicate thoughts, worries, or fantasies about death, either regarding other people or the writer himself. May indicate a pervasive characterological attachment to thoughts about death.
Suggest anger, hostility, irritability and frustration. Suggest the tendency to easily lose one’s temper. The writer has a short fuse and can fly off the handle at the least provocation. A pervasive characterological anger (conscious or unconscious) is suggested. A disturbance in the person’s self-concept.
Writing indicates fraudulent intentions, contrary, tricky, amoral, or who demonstrate active resistance to accepted and legal norms of behavior.
Suggests a loss of or lapse of consciousness, sometimes due to strong internal tension. The writer may be excessively compulsive in behavior. Often there is a tendency toward over indulgence to relieve accumulated stress and tension. Impending explosion is suggested.
A lack of sensitivity to others’ feelings and may indicate a harsh, crude, and/or brutal individual.
The writer represses needs, desires, and emotions. This implies that the writer does not have the coping skills or sense of logic needed to analyze his or her internal forces. Rationale is diminished. A lack of insight into the writer’s own behavior, actions, thoughts and feelings results in internal pressure and restraint which may lead to eventual explosive behavior, especially when retracing is strong and if there is also anger shown in the writing. The writer may be in the habit of bottling up energy and feeling until it finds sudden release. Strong repression suggests that there may have been a long period of training in which deviation met with punishment. (Zmuda, 1986)
May indicate hidden aggression or sneaky, behind-the-scenes activities. The person has a beneath-the-surface, covert, subtle, indirect approach. Connote psychological understanding of unconscious motivations, which can be utilized either positively or negatively. It is sometimes seen in the writing of detectives, vice squad, spies, therapists, or criminals.
Unpleasant unconscious urges and desires affecting the individual's value or belief system and behavior. These urges and desires may not be expressed or acknowledged openly, and therefore actions are likely to be hidden and subversive. (Jeffrey Dahmer).
Thinking and morals may be distorted or strange. The writer may twist ideas or morals to fit his behavior or to justify his actions.
Poor thinking patterns. This may indicate confusion or evasiveness regarding everyday situations. Unrealistic thinking and that the writer does not deal well with personal problems. Distorted thoughts and odd or twisted thinking. Can indicate unique or creative thinking. A distorted perception of other people’s rights. The writer will be inclined to act upon this distorted perception, considering his or her own needs first.
Prone to view the world and others in extremes rather than in normal proportions. Sees himself as very important. Tends to be an extremist and may greatly exaggerate issues. The person lacks the ability to focus and therefore tends to have scattered interests and energies. He or she may expect to be the center of attention, and usually is, either in a positive or negative way. The aim of thoughts and actions is to be recognized. Is more apt to be a participant than an observer, needs large open spaces and hates confinement. May indicate megalomania.
Indicates very broad, expansive thinking and suggests poor boundaries, inner discipline or firm moral codes. The person can be susceptible to the influence of people or events. Control and self-discipline are lacking and impulsiveness, extravagance, and hedonism are suggested.
The writer has an orientation to the present rather than the past or the future; he deals best with the here and now. It also indicates a strong need for immediate gratification, as well as immaturity and a subjective view of the world. The writer may act now, think later.
A proneness to hypersensitivity which relates to a fluctuating self-image. Unstable responses and inner conflict are implied. The writer is easily affected by outside influences and may therefore be a “barometer” for the feelings of others. The writer will be unpredictable in the expression of his criminal behavior.
A verbally blunt person—someone who lacks tact. It points toward a lack of refined social skills and implies that the writer attempts to overcompensate for a basic feeling of inferiority. A tendency to suddenly lose control. The writer is apt to express his opinions strongly and may want to have the last word.
The writer finds difficulty in bonding with people. Tends to avoid emotion or attachment. The regularity, orderliness, and “controlled” feeling of the printing tends to make the person feel safe by de-emphasizing emotions. Focuses on communication in order to draw attention away from feeling. Naturalness is replaced by precision, especially when the structures are carefully done. Suggests a readiness to stand alone and to rely upon oneself. In extreme cases it may indicate that the writer is incapable of being co-operative. It suggests individuality, inventiveness, and intuition but may also show antisocial or even hermit-like behavior. The writer sometimes has immediate insights and may lack the ability to implement long-range goals.
Indicates erratic responses to environmental influences. Suggests that the writer is ambivalent about interpersonal contact, that he or she is inconsistent and unorganized and lacks logic. The writer does not “have it together” and so may be unpredictable
Moodiness. This suggests immaturity and labile, unpredictable reactions and behavior. The writer may fluctuate between conscious and subconscious material, or between fact and fantasy.
Variable moods which last for shorter or longer periods of time. Projects or endeavors are started with energy or enthusiasm which wanes quickly, or over a longer period of time. The writer may be bipolar manic depressive.
A resistance toward authority. The writer is alert to possible injustices by authority figures. May illustrate rebelliousness and the fear of losing one’s autonomy. The writer is often willing to break rules and part from tradition. A defiant attitude is sometimes exhibited by sudden and impulsive outbursts, and the writer may be viewed as being crude, uneducated, or antisocial.
Indicates embellishment of basic truth with idiosyncratic perceptions or outright deception. The person can be obsessional and/or untrustworthy. Possible psychotic thought processes. The writer may have intrusive thoughts and ideas that he/she perceives as coming from external sources. This causes tension and may have an effect on the person’s sanity.
Strong repression stemming from a fear of unconscious thoughts and desires. This is indicative of anxiety, excessive worry, or obsessive ruminating over matters that, to someone else, would be unimportant. The individual is attempting to cope, but still within the same old framework, as if “marking time.”
Prone to acquisitiveness—a desire to possess, trivial desires. Might imply ambitious desires. Could be motivation for crime.
Illustrates a tendency towards social immaturity. The person may be torn between being soft or harsh. Can represent lack of sensitivity to other people’s feelings. Brutality is a possibility.
Indicates jealousy, the fear of rejection or loss of love. Afraid of losing relationships or things. Suspicious; sees other people as rivals and is therefore insecure and competitive. Guards possessions jealously due to fear of having them taken away. May be provoked to violence in an effort to guard what is his.
Strokes that have a decidedly forward thrust imply aggressiveness and/or initiative. Mental initiative is usually suggested. Physical aggressiveness is implied. Employs considerable energy in their activities, whether positive or negative.
Implies self-castigation or self-blame. May place him or herself in situations that result in some form of punishment. This relates to unconscious guilt or self-condemnation. The person feels guilt regarding sex and/or past events.
Indicates a proneness to rush ahead due to difficulty controlling one’s impulses. Once started on a path of action the person tends to become driven or propelled ahead. The person’s mental or emotional brakes are not working properly.
Indicates incongruence between a desire to be important and the actual self-image. May be a person who strives for greatness or importance on the one hand, and who feels inadequate or insignificant on the other. The need to be important is not in keeping with abilities or reality, sometimes creating frustration, irritability, or anxiety.
Reticence. The writer may not be willing or able to verbally express thoughts and feelings. He or she generally prefers to keep personal matters concealed.
Suggests vanity, an overestimation of one’s own worth and abilities. The person expects praise and recognition, whether it has been earned or not, tends to think that rules do not apply to him, and may exhibit pomposity, grandiosity, or arrogance. He or she is defended, susceptible to flattery or criticism, and may criticize other people in order to look “better than.” Accomplishments, efforts, work and the intentions to carry out one’s plans.
Indicates a dominating nature. The writer wants things done his or her way and expects others to help in carrying out plans and intentions. Indicates a domineering, demanding, controlling personality, the result of feelings of futility and powerlessness. The writer wants to be in control of most situations and may impose his will in a demanding way. He wants what he wants when he wants it.
The habit of exploding or reacting with temper when plans or goals are thwarted. The writer is irritable and impatient and wants to get on with things. He or she is apt to “fly off the handle” at the slightest provocation.
A person of strong will, someone who is purposeful and self-directed. The writer can be forceful and hard to stop. The possibility of danger—even brutality.
Suggests very high goals. The writer is prone to have a rich fantasy life in general, and especially where the future is concerned. He or she looks far ahead and may want to do something important or be someone special.
Unreachable or overly ambitious goals which may create frustration. The writer has very unrealistic goals. A visionary person—someone capable of seeing far down the road and being able to get there through self-direction.
Prone to be irresponsible and fearful of commitment. Suggestive of shallow purpose and unreliability. The person may be easily influenced and tends to give in readily, sometimes leaving the real work and responsibility to someone else. The person is likely to take the “easy way”—the direction that requires the least effort—and he may therefore sometimes be lazy or indulgent in sensual appetites. .
Enthusiasm and enjoyment of ideas and interests. Inner exuberance lends endurance to one’s will power, allowing him or her to influence others in either a positive or negative manner, depending on what the enthusiasm is about. The writer is likely to follow through with plans and intentions due to the momentum of the enthusiasm.
The writer is determined and self-directed. Once started, he or she has strong follow-through and does not wish to admit defeat. Energy is expressed in physical or practical accomplishments. The writer is “rooted” in the physical. The person can be determined in socially unacceptable areas.
Suggests unusually strong physical and/or material drives. There is a heavy focus on physical satisfactions, i.e. food, sex, and physical activity, or the person may be concerned with financial security. Emotional expression sexual fantasy more likely. A person who runs; goes too far and is unable to stop; hyperactivity is implied.
Indicates subjective thinking and, when exaggerated, confusion of interests. The writer scatters his or her energy by being involved in many interests and activities. The result is not enough time to do justice to any one interest, hence a loss of perspective. He or she is prone to restlessness and an urge for frequent change. The writer may be preoccupied with sex or sexual fantasies. The difficulty of sorting out what is relevant and irrelevant may lead to unclear or confused action.
Indicates a tendency to exaggerate, distort ideas, or daydream, of strong imagery, an active imagination and a rich fantasy life. An overly active imagination can lead to great distortion. The writer may encompass too much in the imagination and end with nothing in reality. Check for delusional thinking.
The person's thoughts are confused and/or distorted. There are possible hallucinations and loss of contact with reality. Such writers may have unfounded religious ideas or fantasies which distort reality.
Discouragement and resignation. This may show chronic depression or pessimism, or “victim mentality” in extreme cases.
An unusual thinking style. Unique thinking can be a blessing or a curse. It may indicate talents and uniquely creative abilities OR pathological obsessions, the writer may be “crazy” or creative. The individual’s thinking, philosophy, and/or behavior may be altered to serve his or her own emotional needs.
Indicates manual dexterity and an ability to work with tools and implements. Sometimes found in the handwritings of killers who are deft at carrying out their murderous deeds.
Wavy lead-ins suggest an individual with humor and a generally positive attitude. This is an adult coping mechanism which implies that the writer makes use of humor to keep his or her attitude and surroundings light and positive.
The tendency to be cautious, to rethink one’s decision before taking action. The writer is “putting on the brakes,” considering the angles before making a final decision.
 
Annasmom:

There also was a handwritten postcard (evidently from Seka's parents to Brody) with a Belgrade postmark.
 
Annasmom:

There also was a handwritten postcard (evidently from Seka's parents to Brody) with a Belgrade postmark.

Doogie, I don't want to hear any more self-deprecating remarks about your memory. You have a mind like a steel trap! How could you remember that post card?
 
I keep up with this thread but do not comment often but wanted to point out that I think GB is referring to Josip Broz Tito (AKA Little Tito) in his letter who was the leader of the Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavian from 1945-1980. He was an anti-facist and believed strongly in workers rights, strong labor unions, etc. He was a member of the Communist Party in the Soviet Union and served in the Soviet Police during WWII. However with the invasion of Yugoslavia he returned home and became the leader of the Anti-Facist Council of the Liberation of Yugoslavia and launched guerilla warfare against the Germans to gain back occupied territories.
Ultimately Tito became the Prime Minister of Yugoslavia after the war. He made an enemy of Stalin by refusing to adopt regulations that would mean ultimately loyalty to Stalin. Stalin tried to have him murdered many times.

Here are some links:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josip_Broz_Tito

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,807163,00.html (this is an article from Time Magazine in 1955. The writer writes about Little Tito walking up the "Red Carpet" to met Kruschev. GB Mentioned a red carpet in his letter to Seka.)
 
Because the professional analysis by Peggy Walla of George Brody's handwriting appears far back in Forum posts, I am re-posting it here, for what it's worth.

Just an FYI for newcomers: The repetitive nature of some of this analysis is because each comment is based on a small portion of the handwriting sample. When mutiple sections of the sample elicit a similar analysis, this means that the evidence for that trait is overwhelming. With that in mind, note how many times that Brody is described as immoral and having a "disturbed self-concept" (in other words, he thinks way too highly of himself).
 
Thank you all very much for your help.

Gaia, you are absolutely right about Tito. I wonder why G called her "little Tito". Generally in Yugoslavia, it would suggest a person giving orders and everyone taking the orders without any complaints.

Annasmom, I completely understand why you don't want to look in the box. I really admire you and believe you are a brave person. Thank you very much for being so patient with numerous questions I am asking and providing information.

I would like to try to get information about Anna published in Serbia and posted on the Serbian blog network. That would include photos of Anna. Annasmom (or Dr. Doogie, Sherlock or...), would you want to put down in English what you want people to know and what you want to find out? I would then translate it and make the contacts (if you agree).
 
I keep up with this thread but do not comment often but wanted to point out that I think GB is referring to Josip Broz Tito (AKA Little Tito) in his letter who was the leader of the Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavian from 1945-1980. He was an anti-facist and believed strongly in workers rights, strong labor unions, etc. He was a member of the Communist Party in the Soviet Union and served in the Soviet Police during WWII. However with the invasion of Yugoslavia he returned home and became the leader of the Anti-Facist Council of the Liberation of Yugoslavia and launched guerilla warfare against the Germans to gain back occupied territories.
Ultimately Tito became the Prime Minister of Yugoslavia after the war. He made an enemy of Stalin by refusing to adopt regulations that would mean ultimately loyalty to Stalin. Stalin tried to have him murdered many times.

Here are some links:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josip_Broz_Tito

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,807163,00.html (this is an article from Time Magazine in 1955. The writer writes about Little Tito walking up the "Red Carpet" to met Kruschev. GB Mentioned a red carpet in his letter to Seka.)

Gaia, thank you for this background information. Although Brody was certainly using "Little Tito" as an affectionate diminutive for Seka, your historical perspective throws a new light on events and people in public life Brody may have regarded favorably.
 
It would not surprise me, in light of the Georges' nightly restaurant prowling, if Seka was not just a put-upon waitress with the misfortune of having smiled while serving the duo some hashbrowns and eggs.
 
Joe, that is certainly a possibility. Do you think it would still be worth it trying to make a contact in Serbia?

I am definitely a newbie. Just trying to help. :)
 
Joe, that is certainly a possibility. Do you think it would still be worth it trying to make a contact in Serbia?

I am definitely a newbie. Just trying to help. :)


Sorry, didn't mean to sound so cynical. Please ignore my comment. I heartily applaud your ideas and involvement in the "Search". You bring an unique and valuable perspective.
 
Gaia, thank you for this background information. Although Brody was certainly using "Little Tito" as an affectionate diminutive for Seka, your historical perspective throws a new light on events and people in public life Brody may have regarded favorably.

No problem. A lot of people really revered and loved Tito for his service to Yugoslavia, his socialist ideals of wanting a strong working party, strong unions, representation of the people, etc and of course a lot of people loved him for his opposition to Stalin demands so I can see how GB used the term affectionately towards Seka - using it as a representation of his admiration of her strength, spirit, fairness, independence, etc.

Of course, a lot of people hated him to. He was what you call....a polarizing figure.
 
It would not surprise me, in light of the Georges' nightly restaurant prowling, if Seka was not just a put-upon waitress with the misfortune of having smiled while serving the duo some hashbrowns and eggs.

Actually, this is a real possibility. However, somehow Brody obtained the names and address of her parents, so that implies something more than their usual delusions of sexual grandeur. The was enough a relationship that Brody knew her situation and how to contact her parents.
 
Sorry, didn't mean to sound so cynical. Please ignore my comment. I heartily applaud your ideas and involvement in the "Search". You bring an unique and valuable perspective.

Joe, dont be shy around here. You are one of the few people who have seen both Georges face-to-face and your input is appreciated. No need to apologize!
 
Joe, I did not think you were cynical at all. No need to apologize.

Actually, yours is a very good idea. I am not so sure about mine, but who knows...

Gaia, you are right again. :)
 
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