The camera - is it possible for it to go off on its own?

[Niner]

Well, I’m of the opinion all of the shots were done through the shower door. I know some feel there would be steam, etc. … But my shower doors don’t steam up and, because I keep them clean, the water tends to “sheet” off of them. If the camera were set to “auto focus” on TA, it would focus right through any drops on the door, since the depth of field would have been very small.

You could be right.

However, I, frankly, even hesitate to say, with certainty, that this shot was taken with a flash. Without seeing the originals, it’s hard to tell. All versions of this photo are “brighter” than the others … but it definitely shows pixilation, where the highlights have been brought out of the shadows. Plus, you’d THINK there would be a reflection of the flash in the glass if one had been used (because, again, I think the shower door was shut). As to “drops” frozen in time through the strobe-effect of the flash, a fast shutter speed could have the same result.

At any rate, without the originals and the techniques of a forensic photographic expert, we will probably never know

Kind of late to the discussion, but re bold - you might be right! I looked at the picture again (attached) and it does look like the water beads are on the glass... (hope it was okay to post this picture!?!)

 

[Niner]

His legs are not crossed. I thought that also, but it has been pointed out that it his entire right leg bent at the knee ... you can see his right foot at the end. It took me awhile to see that also.

I have been trying to figure out that picture (attached) - and I believe you are right!

 

[geevee]

I have been trying to figure out that picture (attached) - and I believe you are right!

Yes, in the full lower part of the pic you can see that his legs are not crossed. I still think this pic also shows the first blood flying (lower left corner near where shower door meets the stall.

 

[angell]

Yep, he did have sex with her on that day June 4th. When i say that Travis played too many games and that is why he is dead, is because of what you have wrote.

He allowed a very dangerous woman into his home and had sex with her. Knowing that she was not all there, but he was too immature to say no to her.

JA is the manipulator and liar, and she's the one who played games. Travis is dead because JA is a sick, twisted monster who decided long before she arrived at his home to slaughter him.

 

[ElleElle]

Yes, I agree it couldn't have been taken with a neck strap, but possibly with a wrist strap.

The neckstrap was by the camera case n the bedroom floor, still in it's package. Still looking for the crime scene pic. lol

 

[ElleElle]

I also believe Travis had no clue Jodi was taking the shower pics, but was very aware on the sexcapade. I see water outside the glass door and the lighting is chit.

Why else who they both be cleanly shaven? For each other. imo.

 

[TexMex]

http://http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=kdhYXVlvzsY&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DkdhYXVlvzsY

Be warned the naked pics are in this video.
Testimony is shower door is open, can see the frame in some of the pics.
This is how she lured him into a vulnerable position. "Let me take some Calvin Klein shots! Your body looks great! I'll be on the road as soon as I finish"...

 

[TexMex]

Jodi Arias Trial, Day 6


http://http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=yZkqVwCbgtA&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DyZkqVwCbgtA



Be warned the naked pics are in this video.
Testimony is shower door is open, can see the frame in some of the pics.
This is how she lured him into a vulnerable position. "Let me take some Calvin Klein shots! Your body looks great! I'll be on the road as soon as I finish"...

 

[geevee]

The neckstrap was by the camera case n the bedroom floor, still in it's package. Still looking for the crime scene pic. lol

Hi Elle.

Yeah, the neck strap that came with the camera (think HLN has a pic) is in the bag untouched but since she had 2 cameras with her (by her admission) I figure it's likely she had at least one neck strap with her.

But neither of the last two pics look like they could have been taken with the camera aound anyone's neck, an almost straight angle very low to (or on) the ground.

When I swap the colors in the 'dragging' pic I can see fingers, TA's I believe, and I think the lightest flesh color along the top are her hands pulling him by the wrists, the darkest color is either him or that towel from the 'shoulder' pic very close to the camera lens.*

*ETA: On second thought, it could even be her pant leg, I can see what may be the zipper in motion, could be almost anything moving quickly but could be the zipper.

 

[ElleElle]

Hi Elle.

Yeah, the neck strap that came with the camera (think HLN has a pic) is in the bag untouched but since she had 2 cameras with her (by her admission) I figure it's likely she had at least one neck strap with her.

But neither of the last two pics look like they could have been taken with the camera aound anyone's neck, an almost straight angle very low to (or on) the ground.

When I swap the colors in the 'dragging' pic I can see fingers, TA's I believe, and I think the lightest flesh color along the top are her hands pulling him by the wrists, the darkest color is either him or that towel from the 'shoulder' pic very close to the camera lens.*


*ETA: On second thought, it could even be her pant leg, I can see what may be the zipper in motion, could be almost anything moving quickly but could be the zipper.

I think Jodi tried with both hands to manoever the camera and weapons... although yes, she may have had a neck strap from another camera. I think she had knife/gun on her person too while taking the shower pics. moo

:seeya:

 

[geevee]

I think Jodi tried with both hands to manoever the camera and weapons... although yes, she may have had a neck strap from another camera. I think she had knife/gun on her person too while taking the shower pics. moo

:seeya:

I too believe she was fully armed when she started taking the shower pics.

My initial thought was she had the knife and gun on top of him as she dragged him down the hall, the gun making the dark and metallic shapes on the left side and the knife being the lightest on the top, but I think I see blurred fingernails near the lightest area.

There's so much movement going on, both the subjects and camera, so it's pretty hard to be positive about the images, but I'm still studying them, like some kind of addiction. lol

 

[geevee]

This pic attached (graphic, be warned) is from a screen shot I took (think it was during JM's closing, Flores is at the desk and the camera gets a good shot of his monitor) of 5:32:16, I've outlined the ghostly (superimposed, I think) images on the picture with labeling below.

I'm still convinced this pic captures her slashing his throat, I think I see other superimposed images (lighter area on the pant leg) smaller and harder to discern but I think it shows him falling to the floor where he's lying in the big picture.

 

[geevee]

A question for anyone - if TA intended to take a shower, why would he leave his shower slippers in the middle of the bedroom floor instead of in the shower area?

Any thoughts on this would be greatly appreciated.

 

[ElleElle]

This pic attached (graphic, be warned) is from a screen shot I took (think it was during JM's closing, Flores is at the desk and the camera gets a good shot of his monitor) of 5:32:16, I've outlined the ghostly (superimposed, I think) images on the picture with labeling below.

I'm still convinced this pic captures her slashing his throat, I think I see other superimposed images (lighter area on the pant leg) smaller and harder to discern but I think it shows him falling to the floor where he's lying in the big picture.

Yes, this pic is when she is dragging after throat slit.

Is that a piece of rug pulled up by her foot?

 

[ElleElle]

A question for anyone - if TA intended to take a shower, why would he leave his shower slippers in the middle of the bedroom floor instead of in the shower area?

Any thoughts on this would be greatly appreciated.

Maybe he was in a hurry? Good question though.

He certainly does not scared until the 5:27PM pic.

 

[franquerolane]

I don't believe the "consensual" photo shoot story at all. I believe JA forced TA in some way to pose for the pictures. I just don't think TA would have consented to having shower photos taken. And I don't necessarily believe the story about them having a marathon sex session that day either. I believe all of this was staged and TA was forced in some way to pose for the pics. He was done with her at that point, no? I can't see him having a sexual marathon with her days before he was to go to Cancun with Mimi. And the pic of him, naked on the bed, shows that he was not sexually aroused during the pic.....it that because he was being forced to pose??

I agree that he was forced into the picture taking. If the general consensus here is that she was threatening to play the taped sex conversation to his girlfriends, does it make sense that he would willingly pose naked for Jodie, knowing what she could do with the photos?

 

[ArianeEmory]

I agree that he was forced into the picture taking. If the general consensus here is that she was threatening to play the taped sex conversation to his girlfriends, does it make sense that he would willingly pose naked for Jodie, knowing what she could do with the photos?

I'm mostly a lurker, but I believe the counterpoint to this is usually "it was his camera and he had the expectation of being in control of the contents."

I know Travis was seemingly a good guy, but I don't understand the attempts to explain away the fact that he was obviously, on some level, not able to resist at least the physical lure of their dysfunctional relationship. He was only human, he can still be thought of as a good guy, but it's not necessary to deify him in order to prove Jodi is evil/broken.

 

[geevee]

Yes, this pic is when she is dragging after throat slit.

Is that a piece of rug pulled up by her foot?

I think that's Flores' shoulder, I couldn't get him entirely out of the pic. lol

 

[geevee]

I'm mostly a lurker, but I believe the counterpoint to this is usually "it was his camera and he had the expectation of being in control of the contents."

I know Travis was seemingly a good guy, but I don't understand the attempts to explain away the fact that he was obviously, on some level, not able to resist at least the physical lure of their dysfunctional relationship. He was only human, he can still be thought of as a good guy, but it's not necessary to deify him in order to prove Jodi is evil/broken.

I can't speak for anyone else but to me, it just doesn't make logical sense that he would send her that text on 5-26 and 9 days later have a sex romp and nude picture taking party.

I don't look at it as good guy/bad guy (or girl) or any moral aspect at all, it just doesn't seem reasonable that someone who was that angry - not just at one situation but everything about her, I just don't see him jumping in the sack with her, then or any time soon. And I don't think he had any idea she was coming.

Just moo

 

[geevee]

Here is 5:33:32 color swapped and with labels of what I think I can make out.