The Crown v Gerard Baden-Clay, 8th July - Trial Day 16

[drsleuth]

Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 18s

Fuller says the officer didn't fall walking down or under the bridge. He fell in the mud by the water's edge, below the body. #badenclay

Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 24s

Fuller says you can pull over on the right hand side of the bridge travelling from Brookfield. #badenclay

Fuller says it hadn't rained. #badenclay

 

[ollijack]

I wonder if it's a hangmans noose, or a gallows, or maybe the massive hole he's dug for himself.

Now that is hilarious....he would be St%#@d enough to be playing Hangmans noose.....lol

 

[samanthaj]

11:14am: Mr Fuller said the banks around Kholo Creek may have been dry on the evening of April 19, 2012.

He said the catchment area did not receive heavy rain until April 27, 2012, only three days before Mrs Baden-Clay's body was discovered.

"Where's the mud that's going to be there on the 19th or the morning of the 20th?" Mr Fuller asked.

The defence pointed to a lack of mud or grass in the Holden Captiva that Mr Baden-Clay might have traipsed back into the car after allegedly dumping his wife's body to connect the real estate agent to the crime scene.


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[AllyG]

Who wants to place bets on how long it will take Fuller to do his closing? Will jury likely begin deliberations today?

 

[Her Honour]

'Mr Fuller said Ms Baden-Clay had battled for years to keep the marriage together after being told by her husband that he no longer loved her.

He said Baden-Clay was living a double life and posited that he was looking for a way out.'

Boom. I reckon he could almost leave it at that. Says it all.

 

[ollijack]

There is something about that chinple ..... And Cape.....(I know I know, it is a gown, but I see it as a cape today)

He is Allisons hero today.....lovely man

 

[drsleuth]

Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 17s

Fuller is showing the court photographs of Allison's body. #badenclay

Fuller: Her body was pushed off that ledge and ... fell to where she was. #badenclay

Fuller says that's where she remained. #badenclay

 

[PrimeSuspect]

David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 1m
Todd Fuller QC says Allison's body was pushed off a ledge just above it

 

[drsleuth]

Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 28s

Fuller says the positioning of Allison's arms and legs are consistent with her being rolled/pushed off the concrete ledge above. #badenclay

Fuller says there was a dent in the mud after Allison's body was taken away. It remained even in August. #badenclay

Fuller is showing a photograph of Allison taken from the ridge above. Shows the positioning of her arms and legs. #badenclay

 

[Total]

Who wants to place bets on how long it will take Fuller to do his closing? Will jury likely begin deliberations today?

He hasn't yet covered the scratches, the finances, the marks on his torso, the multiple lies, the phone calls. I'd say he will take until 3.30 today as he is so much more succinct than Byrne. He is good to listen to, so with breaks he will need at least another hour and a half. Not sure about the Judge's closing remarks.....Mmm deliberations starting tomorrow. Verdict by Friday.

 

[PrimeSuspect]

David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 1m
There is a dent underneath her body. The dent is still present in May and August 2012 - Fuller




David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 1m
Gerard is looking down, appears to be taking notes, as photos of his wife's body are shown to the court

David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 1m
There is no sign of disturbance around her body, to climb up - Fuller

 

[ollijack]

I would be more than happy to offer Mr Fuller a foot massage & lit cigar come lunch break (don't tell Mr Camp Chair)

Oh thank the Lord for the dry/black humour of this place lol:floorlaugh:

 

[drsleuth]

Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 12s

Fuller says they should be satisfied she didn't fall down there or negotiate her own way down. She didn't jump from the bridge. #badenclay

Fuller says if Allison had fallen from the bridge and landed on the ground, she would have sustained serious injuries. #badenclay

 

[PrimeSuspect]

David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 48s
Pathologist told us she would have sustained substantial injuries if she fell from the bridge. She had none - Fuller

 

[drsleuth]

Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 12s

Fuller says if Allison had fallen into a depth of water, she would have had to have washed up onto the bank. #badenclay

Fuller says at best the water lapped up against her. #badenclay

 

[Amee]

Sarah Elks ‏@sarahelks 1m

Prosecutor Fuller says Allison Baden-Clay was not suicidal, did not jump or fall in drug-induced confusion. #badenclay

 

[Amee]

Sarah Elks ‏@sarahelks 3m

Prosecutor Todd Fuller: Allison Baden-Clay did not jump or fall. She was thrown down there, under the bridge. #badenclay

 

[samanthaj]

11:21am: Mr Fuller said Mrs Baden-Clay's body was dragged part way down the embankment of the creek to a concrete pylon beneath the bridge on Mt Crosby Road.

He said her body was pushed from the concrete ledge.

"Her body was pushed off the ledge and her body fell to where she was," he said.

"And that's the position in which she remained ...

"She did not end up jumping off there, or falling off there, she was thrown down there."


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[drsleuth]

Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 6s

Fuller says Allison's body was clearly underneath the bridge, not next to it. #badenclay

Fuller says she has not fallen from the bridge to end up in that position. #badenclay

 

[drsleuth]

Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 8s

Fuller says the pathologist said Allison's body did not have the appearance of having been in the water. #badenclay

Fuller says there would have been injuries from bumping into things as she is moved by the water. #badenclay

Fuller is talking about the time lapse footage of the rise and fall of tides used by the defence. #badenclay