The Crown v Gerard Baden-Clay, 9th July - Trial Day 17

[PrimeSuspect]

That's interesting.... Can they listen to recordings again while deliberating?

It does seem like that Timmy. Wow, just imagine going over things again and again. I suppose to have a clear conscience they would have to go over things they've forgotten.

 

[drsleuth]

Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 30s

The judge is discussing what weight should be put on statements the accused made to the police. #badenclay

Judge says they must decide whether the statements were truth or lies. #badenclay

 

[PrimeSuspect]

Francene Norton ‏@francenenorton 1m
Byrne: what the accused said to police forms part of the evidence for your consideration.

 

[MRSA]

So is the judge inferring here that he did kill her?

*implying

No.

 

[Amee]

12:16pm: Justice Byrne has explained how the jury may convict Mr Baden-Clay of murder.

"Before you convict the accused of murder, you must be satisfied, beyond reasonable doubt of two distinct matters:

* That he caused the death of his wife; and

* That he did so with an intention to kill her or at least to cause her some grevious bodily harm.

"Neither the prosecution nor the defence contend for manslaughter."

Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/que...y-17-week-5-20140709-3bluf.html#ixzz36w0AMwzE

 

[Amee]

Sarah Elks ‏@sarahelks 21s

Justice Byrne to jury: make your own mind up as to whether Gerard #badenclay lied to police, and if he did so deliberately.

 

[PrimeSuspect]

Francene Norton ‏@francenenorton 1m
Byrne: You will make up your own minds whether he told falsehoods to the police and if so whether he did so deliberately.


David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 58s
Gerard has screens at his feet showing Justice John Byrne's comments as they're read.

 

[drsleuth]

Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 20s

Judge is discussing expert evidence and the difference between the witness giving facts and opinions. #badenclay

 

[PrimeSuspect]

David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 49s
The decision is yours to accept evidence, whether from experts or others - Justice Byrne #badenclay




Francene Norton ‏@francenenorton 1m
Byrne: A witness with such specialised knowledge may express an opinion on relevant matters within his or her area of expertise.

Byrne now addresses the discovery of Allison's body under the Kholo Creek bridge.

 

[MadDoc]

This is starting to feel a bit one-sided to me.

I don't have much experience with court cases but my impression is that he is just reading them the rules that apply with any case...

 

[drsleuth]

Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 18s

The judge says the Baden-Clay house is 13km from the Kholo Creek bridge. #badenclay

Judge says it takes 13 to 20 minutes to drive from one to the other. #badenclay

Judge is discussing Allison's body, the clothing she was wearing. #badenclay

Judge says her phone has never been found. She normally took it walking with her. #badenclay

Judge says Allison's body was found on a plateau down a steep bank. #badenclay

 

[PrimeSuspect]

David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 52s
It takes 13 to 20 minutes to drive from the house to the bridge - Justice Byrne

 

[Timmy]

Sarah Elks ‏@sarahelks 21s

Justice Byrne to jury: make your own mind up as to whether Gerard #badenclay lied to police, and if he did so deliberately.

I've made up my mind...... Anyone else???

 

[Amee]

Tessa Scott ‏@TessaScott9 29s

Justice Byrne is going through all the evidence. Now talking about pathologist evidence. @9NewsBrisbane #badenclay

 

[PrimeSuspect]

David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 36s
Botanical material was recovered from her hair - Justice Byrne

 

[drsleuth]

Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 26s

Judge says the pathologist found significant decomposition. #badenclay

Judge says pathologist found decomposition was consistent with death 11 days earlier. #badenclay

Judge says pathologist said changes to her body were consistent with it having been in same position for all of that time. #badenclay

Judge says pathologist found no injuries, only "probable" bruise to the chest. #badenclay

 

[PrimeSuspect]

David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 40s
Pathologist found significant decomposition, consistent with death 11 days earlier - Justice Byrne


Francene Norton ‏@francenenorton 28s
Byrne: the extent of decomposition was consistent with death having occurred about 11 days earlier, when the deceased last seen.

 

[Amee]

Sarah Elks ‏@sarahelks 44s

Justice Byrne is now taking jury through the testimony & evidence of certain witnesses, starting with pathologist Nathan Milne #badenclay

APN Newsdesk ‏@APNNewsdesk 1m

Crown says #badenclay had no other choice but to kill his wife Allison. #court #qld http://ow.ly/yWcJF

 

[marlywings]

I've made up my mind...... Anyone else???

Quite a lot...

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?248091-POLL-What-do-you-think-the-verdict-will-be

 

[PrimeSuspect]

David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 1m
Jumper around Allison's head could have been moved there before or after death - Justice Byrne