The Dogs

[ModMaiden]

It looked like the latest news article from St. L. Quoted his attny as saying something to the effect of (and I'm paraphrasing ) that it would be pointless to fight for a bond since his charges don't allow for a bond. I took it mean that a 2nd degree murder charge is an automatic no bond...no if, ands or buts

Appreciate the information, that makes sense. Was that already in place or something part of the extradition papers the governor signed? Just wondering why even schedule a bond hearing if the charge never allowed it.

 

[Chelly]

I don't understand.. if he feeds the dogs daily and gives them water what is he doing wrong? Even if he misses a day..how do the police know for sure.. or anyone know for sure he hasn't been there or someone hasnt been there.. unless they are tailing him? How can they order you to remove your dogs from your own home? If they are dirty, neglected, skinny,then the dog control would take them. What am i missing? jmo

Over the past two months: The neighbors have reported the dogs barking. The alarm system is being triggered by the dogs. Public nuisance and possible animal abandonment = animal control and LE can step in.

 

[Dion]

If it's true that the dogs are tripping the alarm, why is it just happening now. Is it because he has not fed them, and they were going frantic, jumping up at the door or window in an effort to get out?

I will be so happy to see them out of there, and out of his control.

 

[lemondaktril]

I don't understand.. if he feeds the dogs daily and gives them water what is he doing wrong? Even if he misses a day..how do the police know for sure.. or anyone know for sure he hasn't been there or someone hasnt been there.. unless they are tailing him? How can they order you to remove your dogs from your own home? If they are dirty, neglected, skinny,then the dog control would take them. What am i missing? jmo

These dogs are not wild animals...they are family pets and companions. They must be so confused, sad and lonely. It breaks my heart to think of them being left alone all this time. I sincerely hope that they are taken away at the earliest and placed in a loving home TOGETHER! If he hasn't been there daily,spending time with them as well as feeding them and making sure they have water etc. then it is nothing short of animal cruelty in my opinion.

 

[FelicityLemon]

It may be that he feels safer in jail.

Honest to gosh, you just read my mind! Not that cohorts couldn't reach him in prison, but he's definitely more vulnerable outside.

 

[Bobbywoo]

Appreciate the information, that makes sense. Was that already in place or something part of the extradition papers the governor signed? Just wondering why even schedule a bond hearing if the charge never allowed it.

Post #209 on the CWW thread if anyone wants to bring the link over. It was posted by GS. Odd that they went through the motions up until the last minute. Maybe slow paperwork on the formal charges? Not sure

 

[Dushi]

THANK YOU! Funny they didn't give MS a friendly warning before publicly shaming him for the treatment of those dogs. Anything to turn up the heat, huh?

How do you know that?

 

[IQuestion]

So MS is mistreating the dogs by leaving them alone in the house all day and only coming over to feed them. Good on your local Animal Control people for putting a stop to it!

Oh, I would think local LE will spend as much time as possible in the presence of MS. Perhaps they have to wait for something.........and have advised MS that he had better stick around. Wonder what his demeanor is in the presence of LE? 'Cause you know they have to be giving him the "fish eye".

As we know from the Casey Anthony case, there is not a thing MS can do to prevent the news people from camping out on the street outside this house. And videotaping who goes in and out.
Wonder what he thought blowing his horn was going to accomplish?

OMG AlwaysShocked bbm above
I am laughing so hard, my eyes are watering...."Cause you know they have to be giving him the "fish eye."
That is the cutest term for under surveillance I have ever heard! (I was following all of this so intensely, heart pounding in my chest, running upstairs because the satellite feed was lost, this is it,This Is It, CNN must have crews on the way, go-go-go and then read your post.....and I just lost it). You guys are great!

 

[NSS]

Given the high profile nature of this case and if I was a LE officer who knew the victim....... I would like to ensure that the children and pets were planned for before arresting their caretaker.
The innocents have been through enough without adding any further trauma.

Just a meandering thought, since LE have been notified of the dogs being alone some time ago. Timing is important.

 

[LvsAMystry]

Hopefully there is a doggie door for them to go potty. If not it must stink to high heaven in there.

That's what I was thinking, and it could even be he isn't running the AC since not living there and that's completely horrible if so in the heat

 

[relay]

These dogs are not wild animals...they are family pets and companions. They must be so confused, sad and lonely. It breaks my heart to think of them being left alone all this time. I sincerely hope that they are taken away at the earliest and placed in a loving home TOGETHER! If he hasn't been there daily,spending time with them as well as feeding them and making sure they have water etc. then it is nothing short of animal cruelty in my opinion.

I couldn't agree with you more, lemondaktril. It makes no sense to me that he could not have done right by these dogs by now. I understand leaving them for a few days after the tragic murder of his wife and all that such a horrific event encompasses. But, weeks? Months? It is just not right. The nuisance angle may be the only legal factor at this point, unless it is shown that the dogs have not been supplied with water and food daily. But, morally, it is just wrong to leave those dogs alone nearly 24 hours a day for months. They are feeling, intelligent, and social animals who consider their humans their family. They at least have each other, thank goodness. MS treating his dogs this way is telling to me. A bit uncaring and callous at minimum.

 

[Dushi]

Could someone point me to a direction that shows animals are being mistreated?
I am completely lost

 

[atthelake]

I don't understand.. if he feeds the dogs daily and gives them water what is he doing wrong? Even if he misses a day..how do the police know for sure.. or anyone know for sure he hasn't been there or someone hasnt been there.. unless they are tailing him? How can they order you to remove your dogs from your own home? If they are dirty, neglected, skinny,then the dog control would take them. What am i missing? jmo

The outrage perhaps that many feel that there are some grieving people right now that need those dogs as companions , and they are not being allowed to be with them?



Using talk to text with lots of grammar errors !

 

[Paulas88]

I'm going out on a limb here, but its probably safe to say TS was the primary caretaker of those dogs. MS must be very detached from the dogs, from TS, from his children.

Wouldn't the dogs offer the girls some normalization and comport? They should be
with the kids.

 

[concernedmother]

Those dogs have been traumatized too. They probably witnessed their masters murder. Now she is gone and so are the girls.

 

[Dushi]

Wouldn't the dogs offer the girls some normalization and comport? They should be
with the kids.

First of all let me clarify one thing... been a dog owner all of my life.. love them all

But I don't understand all of this

Who says the dogs are abused?
Who says they are alone?
Who says the girls are missing them?

I just need a bit of clarification if nobody minds

Seems we are going down a path...

 

[mckazpm]

Do LE typically respond to animal control calls for two+ hours?

I think LE just responded to the alarm being tripped. They first spent time checking the outskirts of the home. IMO, they probably heard and/or noticed the dogs, as well as complaints from neighbors that they appear to be unattended to and then maybe contacted animal control. This is all IMO. LE left after AC posted the stickers. Media remains. The reported stated to my family member that LE was there due to the alarm going on & off. Either an immediate neighbor reported it or the alarm itself would bring LE to the scene.

MS is there now...too quick for reporter. Zipped into the garage and is currently at house.

 

[Dushi]

And if they are being abused.. what the he@@ is wrong with your animal control?

 

[Dushi]

I think LE just responded to the alarm being tripped. They first spent time checking the outskirts of the home. IMO, they probably heard and/or noticed the dogs, as well as complaints from neighbors that they appear to be unattended to and then maybe contacted animal control. This is all IMO. LE left after AC posted the stickers. Media remains. The reported stated to my family member that LE was there due to the alarm going on & off. Either an immediate neighbor reported it or the alarm itself would bring LE to the scene.

MS is there now...too quick for reporter. Zipped into the garage and is currently at house.

Do we know that?

I know you said probably, and I so appreciate that AND all of your info.

Nothing personal at all

I just ask questions, its what I do

 

[mckazpm]

signing off... just want to state that I'm just trying to relay when something is going on at the Siever's home. I don't have the answers. When I know something is going on, you are the first group that I want to notify and tend to do so. It was just for informational purposes and we can all agree to disagree on the pets. MS has removed the orange stickers and left. Have a great night all~