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Neither do I.No-I think what they said was that her HAIR had to be cut to separate the duct tape properly. I do not recall them stating anything about cutting the duct tape.
I have been puzzled by this since I started reading through the docs. I'm trying to pull together the multiple references, but my brain keeps spinning out. There are too many labeling and numbering systems being used.
This thread just helped me find two different FBI designation "Q-62". One for tape, which I knew about (pg. 3793), and another for hair, which I overlooked (pg. 3777-78) of the FBI submission records.
Synopsis as I see it. Includes descriptive and list evidence.
Remains were observed with a (singular) piece of tape on "mouth area". We first learned about this officially in the search warrant requests from 1.20.09 doc dump. The 12.11 warrant mentions only the tape, the 12.20 warrant adds the heart shaped sticker.
All subsequent docs issued describing the initial scene mention only one piece of tape, on the mouth area.
I thought that this piece of tape is the piece described as Tag H-60493, item # 16 on pg. 3402, but I'm not sure, and this may be where my confusion lies.
Note that this ref: (pg. 3402) lists all of the four pieces I can establish as being collected at the remains site. I can't (yet) pin down a date and location of collection for that piece, which makes me think it's the one on the skull. Also, the tag # H-600493 is used with many other items associated early with and close to the remains. I think that maybe that tag # was assigned to the things that went early to the M.E. The other three (Tag J-60013, items 4 & 5) were found on Dec.19 in Lane 7.( pg. 3453). I'm not sure how far away from North/South baseline, but they were working the edge of the search area by then, so they were not close to the remains.
The gas can tape seems pretty straightforward (so far).Tag H-60498, item # 65 (can & tape) collected during 12.11 search of A house(pg. 3408). Note that two "brackets with duct tape" were also collected. Same tag #, item # 63. These haven't surfaced elsewhere I think (hope).
Now the fun begins. The gas can and tape are submitted together on Dec. 13 as OCSO designation Q-76 (pg.3536). Pg. 3537 requests a comparison of tape "found on human remains" to "tape located on gas can".
Thats two pieces. Maybe.
Next is the Jan. 9 submittal. This includes Henkel tape (H-60493, item 16) submitted as OCSO item Q-100 (pg. 3744). The examination request (pg. 3747) asks to "compare the piece of duct tape to the duct tape found on the human remains and to the duct tape from the residence". (bold mine)
That's three pieces. Right?
The FBI response to the Dec. submittals is on pg. 3793. It references three pieces of tape assigned FBI iitem #s Q62-64, but they are not cross-referenced to any OCSO id #s. It goes on to assign the gas can (OCSO H-60498, item 65) the FBI id # Q-65, and the one piece of tape on the gas can Q-66.
That's four pieces of tape. Isn't it??
The report goes on to say that all three pieces Q62-64 are similar and equally degraded. It also refers to them as having come from the skeletal remains. All three of them.
All of these four pieces are described as having the Henkel logo.
Note that the Henkel piece (H-60493, item 16) was not submitted until Jan. 9, and these pieces are all four recorded as having been received Dec. 13. The report is dated Dec. 19.
I can't find the three pieces of tape found on the site on 12.19 referenced in any testing. Nor can I find any mention of the "brackets with tape". All of these had separate id #s.
So I think I'm missing some tape pieces from the remains.
Did the FBI cut up a piece and designate as Q62-64?
If H-60943, item 16 is not the piece from the mouth then what is it, and and what is the OCSO label for the piece that did come from the mouth?