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Hope4More said:
She's been absolved of any involvement in her son's death. Because you or I or anyone else can't identify with her response doesn't make her anything else but a mother who lost her baby and is entitled to grieve in her own way, on her own terms.
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My point is that she wasn't grieving the loss of Cooper. She was using that victim statement to plead JRH's case and that disgusts me.
 
eileenhawkeye said:
Philip A. Holloway ‏@PhilHollowayEsq 21m21 minutes ago Marietta, GA
Juror tells court that jurors were openly discussing #JustinRossHarris #hotcardeath during questionnaire process despite court instructions

Philip A. Holloway ‏@PhilHollowayEsq 15m15 minutes ago Marietta, GA
Don't be surprised if defense in #JustinRossHarris #hotcardeath case asks for mistrial / start over due to potential juror misconduct

Philip A. Holloway ‏@PhilHollowayEsq 11m11 minutes ago Marietta, GA
Explicit instructions NOT to talk when filling out #JustinRossHarris #hotcardeath juror questionnaire
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Nothing "potential" about juror misconduct if any of the jurors openly discussing whether or not they think he's guilty had been selected. Good grief.
 
Hope4More said:
Maybe you're much younger than I am. 31 to me is barely an adult, with what should be a lifetime ahead to grow up.
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I'm 45. At 33 I was a suddenly divorced mother of 4 children...well actually 3 with one on the way. My ex left me unexpectedly a week after he met someone else. I worked, went to nursing school, and then have worked as a nurse since I finished school, while essentially raising the kids all by myself because their dad moved to another state. So 31 doesn't seem like an unreasonable age to expect maturity.
 
eileenhawkeye said:
Philip A. Holloway ‏@PhilHollowayEsq 21m21 minutes ago Marietta, GA
Juror tells court that jurors were openly discussing #JustinRossHarris #hotcardeath during questionnaire process despite court instructions

Philip A. Holloway ‏@PhilHollowayEsq 15m15 minutes ago Marietta, GA
Don't be surprised if defense in #JustinRossHarris #hotcardeath case asks for mistrial / start over due to potential juror misconduct

Philip A. Holloway ‏@PhilHollowayEsq 11m11 minutes ago Marietta, GA
Explicit instructions NOT to talk when filling out #JustinRossHarris #hotcardeath juror questionnaire
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Ugh, this is terrible! Hopefully not all of them have filled out the questionnaire and maybe just the group who was discussing it will be disqualified.
 
MzOpinion8d said:
My point is that she wasn't grieving the loss of Cooper. She was using that victim statement to plead JRH's case and that disgusts me.
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Yup! It's using a platform as an abuse of power just like Cooper's funeral and Caylee Anthony's funeral. It should be all about the victim. It's a completely inappropriate forum to defend their perp!
 
He is not immature, he is selfish, self-centered, unreliable, has an over-inflated ego of himself and his abilities and put himself above his job, his wife, his child. He told people he was in law enforcement when he was actually just a radio dispatcher. He was in college, but only as a mail clerk. When his wife got him to go to college, she supported him and he played with the young students - abusing the privilege his wife was gifting to him. Did I just read that he was LATE for his wedding because he stopped on the way to buy himself hair spray? He was late to work, left early, spent his work time sexting (which is theft since he was being paid to WORK), was unable to get a promotion or the new job both of which he thought he deserved. He didn't care that the car seat he so tightly fastened around his son was too small and therefore potentially dangerous if they were in the car wreck he so worried about.

He stayed about 30 seconds in his tiny SUV with his son 6 inches from him before he got out, locked the car and went into his office building. Phone records will tell if he was sexting at that time but, chances are he was contemplating what he was about to do.

I thought for a while that he made a huge mistake and simply absent mindedly forgot his son. I no longer think this after finding out about his lack of character.

"R must have left C in the car."

"I dreaded the way he would look."

"This was my worst nightmare."

"Did you say too much?"

He researched hot car deaths 5 days before leaving his son to bake in the car because he worried about this happening. Exactly who has to research hot car deaths to know not to leave a baby in a hot car? No one. If this was such a concern, wouldn't it have been a concern long before CH reached the age of 2? And just what measures did he take to prevent such a horrible death? Nothing. Not a da*n thing.

It just so happened to become an issue when his work life hadn't quite turned out as he expected, his plans of buying a home were put on hold because he failed to get promoted or a new job, his marriage was in trouble, his sexting with minors was about to be known, and after he looked into the 'child less' life and how to survive prison online.

'I can't hear in my right ear, so I didn't hear him in the car. I can't smell anything so I didn't notice that the car had an overwhelming odor of decomp. I didn't notice him when I put light bulbs in the car after lunch because my head was turned the other way.'

Wah, wah, wah. He is despicable.

I think he didn't 'notice' CH because his audience drove away immediately and I will bet dollars to donuts that his research revealed that the baby would be dead by the time he returned from lunch, thus the light bulb purchase. Anyone else would be dropped off at the entrance to their building and take the light bulbs in with them, not go to the car and then walk in the heat.

He paused in the parking lot when someone walked towards his car and didn't continue to his office until he was sure they had not seen his dead child in the carseat. UGH. UGH. UGH.

He stopped sexting at 3pm, told his buddies he would be late for the 5pm movie, but still left his office early and in enough time to make it to the theater on time but made no phone call to them to say "hey, I will be there on time after all". He called/texted LH at 4:02pm to ask what time she was going to get his buddy from daycare but even that didn't trigger his memory that he had not dropped the baby off at daycare? BS. IF he was innocent, he would have panicked at that moment he thought of the child in daycare, before the call/text and run outside to his car to try to save his baby. He didn't. Why was that call/text necessary? It wasn't. She would pick up the child when she got off work, as usual. He did this, IMO, to start the 'find' of the dead baby because he was getting ansty. But, LH didn't respond and she was supposed to be the audience for his dramatic realization. He told his friends he would be late because he knew he wasn't going to show at the movie at all but couldn't tell them he wasn't going to be there.


He got in his car, immediately left the parking lot, drove 3 minutes or 3 miles, (I can't remember) until he found a suitable spot with people around to make the discovery.
 
LinasK said:
Yup! It's using a platform as an abuse of power just like Cooper's funeral and Caylee Anthony's funeral. It should be all about the victim. It's a completely inappropriate forum to defend their perp!
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A private funeral that was not. A mother who had lost her son, her baby who had died a horrible death. A mother and wife whose husband had been responsible for that death, accidental or not. A mother whose baby had just died and the wife of a man who the public had already decided was a baby killer, based on next to no facts or information. A wife who had lost her baby, her husband, her privacy, and who herself was under a cloud of suspicion. For conspiring to kill her own baby. Based on no evidence whatsoever.

IMO it's the cruelty that's been directed at her by so many around her that is sickening, up to and including the note left on Cooper's grave by a sociopath, or someone so completely blinded by hatred they thought it OK to tell a mother grieving over her baby's grave that she didn't deserve to have been his mother.
 
TeaTime said:
He is not immature, he is selfish, self-centered, unreliable, has an over-inflated ego of himself and his abilities and put himself above his job, his wife, his child. He told people he was in law enforcement when he was actually just a radio dispatcher. He was in college, but only as a mail clerk. When his wife got him to go to college, she supported him and he played with the young students - abusing the privilege his wife was gifting to him. Did I just read that he was LATE for his wedding because he stopped on the way to buy himself hair spray? He was late to work, left early, spent his work time sexting (which is theft since he was being paid to WORK), was unable to get a promotion or the new job both of which he thought he deserved. He didn't care that the car seat he so tightly fastened around his son was too small and therefore potentially dangerous if they were in the car wreck he so worried about.

He stayed about 30 seconds in his tiny SUV with his son 6 inches from him before he got out, locked the car and went into his office building. Phone records will tell if he was sexting at that time but, chances are he was contemplating what he was about to do.

I thought for a while that he made a huge mistake and simply absent mindedly forgot his son. I no longer think this after finding out about his lack of character.

"R must have left C in the car."

"I dreaded the way he would look."

"This was my worst nightmare."

"Did you say too much?"

He researched hot car deaths 5 days before leaving his son to bake in the car because he worried about this happening. Exactly who has to research hot car deaths to know not to leave a baby in a hot car? No one. If this was such a concern, wouldn't it have been a concern long before CH reached the age of 2? And just what measures did he take to prevent such a horrible death? Nothing. Not a da*n thing.

It just so happened to become an issue when his work life hadn't quite turned out as he expected, his plans of buying a home were put on hold because he failed to get promoted or a new job, his marriage was in trouble, his sexting with minors was about to be known, and after he looked into the 'child less' life and how to survive prison online.

'I can't hear in my right ear, so I didn't hear him in the car. I can't smell anything so I didn't notice that the car had an overwhelming odor of decomp. I didn't notice him when I put light bulbs in the car after lunch because my head was turned the other way.'

Wah, wah, wah. He is despicable.

I think he didn't 'notice' CH because his audience drove away immediately and I will bet dollars to donuts that his research revealed that the baby would be dead by the time he returned from lunch, thus the light bulb purchase. Anyone else would be dropped off at the entrance to their building and take the light bulbs in with them, not go to the car and then walk in the heat.

He paused in the parking lot when someone walked towards his car and didn't continue to his office until he was sure they had not seen his dead child in the carseat. UGH. UGH. UGH.

He stopped sexting at 3pm, told his buddies he would be late for the 5pm movie, but still left his office early and in enough time to make it to the theater on time but made no phone call to them to say "hey, I will be there on time after all". He called/texted LH at 4:02pm to ask what time she was going to get his buddy from daycare but even that didn't trigger his memory that he had not dropped the baby off at daycare? BS. IF he was innocent, he would have panicked at that moment he thought of the child in daycare, before the call/text and run outside to his car to try to save his baby. He didn't. Why was that call/text necessary? It wasn't. She would pick up the child when she got off work, as usual. He did this, IMO, to start the 'find' of the dead baby because he was getting ansty. But, LH didn't respond and she was supposed to be the audience for his dramatic realization. He told his friends he would be late because he knew he wasn't going to show at the movie at all but couldn't tell them he wasn't going to be there.


He got in his car, immediately left the parking lot, drove 3 minutes or 3 miles, (I can't remember) until he found a suitable spot with people around to make the discovery.
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Much of your "factual" information is apparently inaccurate, according to the most recently published AJC articles, links not far back upthread.
 
This is an older article (7/3/15) but it is a good summary of when things started rolling legally for Cooper's dad.

(Do we see a bit of the sociopath in this article?)

10 shocking revelations in the hot car death hearing


By HLN Staff Updated 11:05 AM EDT, Fri July 3, 2015


A Georgia judge denied bond for Justin Ross Harris on Thursday and ruled that prosecutors had enough evidence to move forward in their case against the father, whose 22-month-old son died from hyperthermia after being left in a hot car for hours last month.
Harris is currently behind bars, facing charges of second-degree cruelty to a child and felony murder. He has pleaded not guilty and says he forgot to drop his son off at day care on the morning of June 18.
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http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/03/justic...toddler-death/
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The quote below comes from the article brought to us by gngr~snap in post # 841. It, too, is an older article, but it contains good info.

IMO, the actions/inactions by Harris will be difficult for the defense to smooth over.

"For him to enter the car ... when the child had been dead and rigor mortis had set in, and the testimony is the stench in the car was overwhelming at that point in time, that he -- in spite of that -- got in the car and drove it for some distance before he took any action to check on the welfare of his child, I find there is probable cause for the two charges contained in the warrant," Cox told a packed courtroom.
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http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/hot...aloosa-n153156
 
Hope4More said:
Much of your "factual" information is apparently inaccurate, according to the most recently published AJC articles, links not far back upthread.
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Wouldn't it be more accurate to say "allegedly inaccurate"? AJC hasn't posted any/all the video evidence, recordings, transcripts LE, the prosecution, and the DA has seen, so we can determine for ourselves if their reporting on all these inconsistencies is accurate, have they?
 
Philip A. Holloway ‏@PhilHollowayEsq 1m1 minute ago Marietta, GA
Judge denied DA's motion to strike a juror for cause in the #JustinRossHarris #hotcardeath trial - they allege he was untruthful

Philip A. Holloway ‏@PhilHollowayEsq 3m3 minutes ago Marietta, GA
At least 6 more jurors are "qualified" to hear #JustinRossHarris #hotcardeath case - possibly more depending on rulings on motions to strike

Philip A. Holloway ‏@PhilHollowayEsq 7m7 minutes ago Marietta, GA
#JustinRossHarris #hotcardeath update: parties agree to strike 4 jurors for cause -2 contested motions will be heard
 
Veronica Waters ‏@MissVWaters 6m6 minutes ago
#RossHarrisTrial defense moves to strike juror who said Ross Harris has to prove to her that he's not guilty. @wsbradio

Veronica Waters ‏@MissVWaters 7m7 minutes ago
Judge DENIES state motion to strike juror for allegedly falsely claiming he got baseball scholarship. "Hearsay." #RossHarrisTrial @wsbradio

https://twitter.com/MissVWaters

:facepalm: Interesting jury pool...
 
Philip A. Holloway ‏@PhilHollowayEsq now20 seconds ago Marietta, GA
Correction: 16 jurors now qualified in the #JustinRossHarris #hotcardeath trial - it's hard to keep track! ⚖
 
I bet the DT will use the actual internet search records entered into evidence at trial to suggest his search for "surviving in prison" was linked to the risk he knew he was taking sexting with minors. A logical and fairly obvious connection, IMO.
 
Veronica Waters ‏@MissVWaters 19s20 seconds ago
Judge allows Juror #23, who said Ross Harris has to prove his innocence, to stay in jury pool. @wsbradio

Christian Boone ‏@ReporterJCB 6m6 minutes ago
Eight more jurors qualified, bringing total to 16. And that includes Juror 22, the *advertiser censored* enthusiast #RossHarris #hotcardeath

Oy vey!
 
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