The Mindhunter Connection

A Message to FBI Profilers? According to Miss Marple's wiki site:
"Some believe the perp was taunting the profilers and showing s/he could "get away" with a heinous crime without getting caught.

Motivation. The principal motivation for the murder is to taunt the profilers and perhaps in some fashion "get even" with them. The perp may have had John Douglas in mind.

Evidence For Message to FBI Profilers Theory
There are several "clues" in the Ransom Note that potentially have a connection to John Douglas, probably the nation's most visible and publicly recognizable profiler.

-SBTC. In John Douglas's Mindhunter pages 137 -166 four killers are discussed in succession and in this order: Son of sam; BTK; Trailside killer; Carmine calabro; i.e., S.B.T.C (observed by Internet poster AntiK).

-118 may be based on number of victims in Sexual Homicides: Patterns and Motives the profiling handbook authored by John Douglas (observed by Internet poster Rainsong). This number is also mentioned in Mindhunter (observed by Internet poster AntiK).

-But it may also refer to the length of Silence of the Lambs (118 minutes); John Douglas was the model for profiler Jack Crawford in this movie (observed by Internet poster Rainsong).

-The writer of the ransom note switches from Mr. Ramsey to John, tells John "not to grow a brain" and that "it's up to you, John," messages that arguably could have been aimed at Douglas rather than Ramsey."


http://jonbenetramsey.pbworks.com/w/page/11682510/Stranger Intruder Theories
 
DeDee's astute observations, copied from the "Out of place in the Ramsey home?" thread:

Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - Out of place items in Ramsey home

"Mind Hunter" published August 1, 1996. Let's have a look inside, shall we?

* * * WARNING SENSITIVE SUBJECT MATTER* * *

The true crime material John Douglas writes about is so very gruesome and graphic in nature. Let that warning be a guide to include this entire post.


Mind Hunter: Inside the FBI's Elite Serial Crime Unit: John Douglas, Mark Olshaker: 9780671528904: Amazon.com: Books

After the index near the end of the book, is a special section: "In the Mind of a Killer", where about 7 pgs in, the Agents of the Naval Investigative Service is mentioned. A few pages further in the crime story, the victim is almost killed first accidentally by being run over by a car, then, again, accidentally, when the accidental killer holds a screwdriver out of panic after hearing someone at the same time the victim is running in the dark toward him and gets herself stabbed.

He decides to make her death look like a brutal sexual attack. He pushes her down an embankment, breaks off a branch from a nearby tree, rolls her onto her stomach and "pushed the stick into her just once". AR described the most unpleasant extent.

The killer, not unlike Patsy Ramsey, knew the moral difference between right and wrong, but was not going to let that moral distinction get in the way.


The evil that men do lives after them; the good is oft interred with their bones.
~ William Shakespeare
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=121765&page=6
 
I went and googled this story and don't know what to think. Something about Sells' confession, caught my eye. He claimed that he broke into her house because she had been rude to him earlier in the day. Not saying this is what actually happened, but I find it interesting that even in a made up story, he thought rudeness was justification for violence. Back in the 90s, my family went to a mall carnival, here in Texas. While we were walking around, a man working a booth, jumped over the table, got in front of me and started yelling at me. He claimed that he had said 'hello' and I ignored him. I told him I didn't hear him, but he was on a rant and didn't want to hear any excuses. He said if he hadn't been wearing 'this shirt', (and he tugged on his carnival shirt), I wouldn't have thought I was too good to speak. He kept accusing me of thinking I was better than him and kept going on about how rude I was. My mother kept pushing me back away from him, and tried to calm him down, (she was an RN at a mental institution), but it didn't do much good. He kept screaming that I was rude, and finally something dawned on me, so I said, 'Hey. I was talking to my mother, so when you said 'hello', you interrupted my conversation, so YOU were the rude one'. And it was like a light bulb went off, and I could see the shift in his emotions. About that time, my husband walked up, (a big muscular guy), so 'Tommy', (that's what a female worker called him), backed off and she guided him away. She rolled her eyes, and said 'not again', and apologized for him. Anyway, I looked at Tommy Lynn Sells' pictures, and I can't say one way or another if he was the same guy. The main thing I remember about this guy's looks were that he appeared young, was nice looking, but had wild spaced out eyes. Afterwards, my mother started crying because she felt so much sympathy for his obvious problem with people looking down on him. My daughter was with us, and to this day, she hates carnivals. That experience traumatized her for life... just walking and enjoying the day, and then BOOM, right out of nowhere, comes this assault. And I've never thought I was better than anybody! We barely had a pot to you know what in, so I don't know where all of this came from. Like you though, I doubt that Sells murdered Joel Kirkpatrick, because he mainly targeted women and girls 1st. The little boy's dad sure seemed convinced that the mother was guilty. And yes, I see some similarities to the JBR case. Often times, a parent kills a child to punish the other parent, and I've wondered if there was some of this involved with JB.

BBM Very good post- this last line is just sticking with me for some reason.
 
Ha! :)
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BBM
Let’s consider for a moment the ransom note as an Invitation to an Event. In this instance, the Event is a Murder Mystery. Those invited are the authorities, specifically, even if only vicariously, the FBI and, hence, FBI Profilers. The parents are the Mailman.

In this scenario, not only does the note invite the authorities, but it tells them what sort of event they’re being invited to: something “hinky,” something “not right,” something that is “not as it appears.” Open your eyes.

If the note and the body (hidden) in the house were intended for the FBI (or, insert any branch of LE), then perhaps other aspects of the crime were also intended for the FBI: the use of materials from the home; the so-called practice note; the paintbrush handle broken (one piece attached to the murder weapon, one piece in the paint tote); the body wrapped; the hands above the head; the useless bonds; the tape on the mouth...

I’ll start here:
In 1996, leading up to the murder of Jonbenet Ramsey, the book Mindhunter was on the bestseller list. In Mindhunter, Chapter 14 is titled, “Hurting the Ones We Love.”

This chapter’s opening case is a mother that murdered her son and buried him, wrapping the body in a blanket and covering it with a thick plastic bag to protect it. She reported a kidnapping. In this chapter the authors write, “The key to many murders of and by loved ones or family members is staging. Anyone that close to the victim has to do something to draw suspicion away from himself or herself.”

Another case is described as “[o]ne of the earliest examples” of staging by a family member/loved one encountered by (FBI profiler John) Douglas: the murder of Linda Dover. Dover was murdered Dec. 26, the day after Christmas; blunt force trauma, stab wounds, wrapped in a comforter and stuffed in a crawlspace.

Another case: a husband claims he was assaulted from behind (blunt force to head and attempted strangulation with some kind of cord or ligature) by an intruder and rendered unconscious. The intruder flees, and the wife found upstairs in a bedroom, dead from strangulation.

The authors (Douglas/Olshaker) discuss strangulation as a sign of personal cause, and, about the need to make victims comfortable and the need to prevent discovery by other family members by hiding the body. They discuss “fake” kidnappings, etc. A couple more cases are presented.

Many aspects of the Jonbenet Ramsey Murder Mystery read as if they came straight out of this chapter. Of course, for the Ramseys (if RDI), Mindhunter is a Do Not Do This Manual. However, a killer inviting profilers to a murder mystery could have used that chapter as a template of sorts.

On page 144 of Mindhunter (paperback ed.) the authors mention data collected from 118 victims as part of an FBI study that was used to help form the book Sexual Homicides: Patterns and Motives (pub. 1992). In Sexual Homicides: Patterns and Motives this study and the number 118 is mentioned ten times: once on page 11, once on page 86, and again on page 103; it is mentioned three times on page 121, once on page 122, and twice more on page 124, and once more on page 333.

Between pages 137 -166 of Mindhunter (paperback ed.) four killers are discussed in this order: S on of Sam; B tk; T railside Killer; C armine Calabro. S.B.T.C
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AK
 
Ha! :)
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BBM
Let’s consider for a moment the ransom note as an Invitation to an Event. In this instance, the Event is a Murder Mystery. Those invited are the authorities, specifically, even if only vicariously, the FBI and, hence, FBI Profilers. The parents are the Mailman.

In this scenario, not only does the note invite the authorities, but it tells them what sort of event they’re being invited to: something “hinky,” something “not right,” something that is “not as it appears.” Open your eyes.

If the note and the body (hidden) in the house were intended for the FBI (or, insert any branch of LE), then perhaps other aspects of the crime were also intended for the FBI: the use of materials from the home; the so-called practice note; the paintbrush handle broken (one piece attached to the murder weapon, one piece in the paint tote); the body wrapped; the hands above the head; the useless bonds; the tape on the mouth...

I’ll start here:
In 1996, leading up to the murder of Jonbenet Ramsey, the book Mindhunter was on the bestseller list. In Mindhunter, Chapter 14 is titled, “Hurting the Ones We Love.”

This chapter’s opening case is a mother that murdered her son and buried him, wrapping the body in a blanket and covering it with a thick plastic bag to protect it. She reported a kidnapping. In this chapter the authors write, “The key to many murders of and by loved ones or family members is staging. Anyone that close to the victim has to do something to draw suspicion away from himself or herself.”

Another case is described as “[o]ne of the earliest examples” of staging by a family member/loved one encountered by (FBI profiler John) Douglas: the murder of Linda Dover. Dover was murdered Dec. 26, the day after Christmas; blunt force trauma, stab wounds, wrapped in a comforter and stuffed in a crawlspace.

Another case: a husband claims he was assaulted from behind (blunt force to head and attempted strangulation with some kind of cord or ligature) by an intruder and rendered unconscious. The intruder flees, and the wife found upstairs in a bedroom, dead from strangulation.

The authors (Douglas/Olshaker) discuss strangulation as a sign of personal cause, and, about the need to make victims comfortable and the need to prevent discovery by other family members by hiding the body. They discuss “fake” kidnappings, etc. A couple more cases are presented.

Many aspects of the Jonbenet Ramsey Murder Mystery read as if they came straight out of this chapter. Of course, for the Ramseys (if RDI), Mindhunter is a Do Not Do This Manual. However, a killer inviting profilers to a murder mystery could have used that chapter as a template of sorts.

On page 144 of Mindhunter (paperback ed.) the authors mention data collected from 118 victims as part of an FBI study that was used to help form the book Sexual Homicides: Patterns and Motives (pub. 1992). In Sexual Homicides: Patterns and Motives this study and the number 118 is mentioned ten times: once on page 11, once on page 86, and again on page 103; it is mentioned three times on page 121, once on page 122, and twice more on page 124, and once more on page 333.

Between pages 137 -166 of Mindhunter (paperback ed.) four killers are discussed in this order: S on of Sam; B tk; T railside Killer; C armine Calabro. S.B.T.C
.

Originally posted here: http://tinyurl.com/nle5rny
More here: http://tinyurl.com/pj8w4ag
And, here: http://tinyurl.com/nkr2y63
And: http://tinyurl.com/q7jbc43
...

AK
Don't most serial killers or killers taunting police/LE/FBI go on to commit more? Get more bold? Taunt more? Where have they been? Why have we not seen more to this elaborate game?

I just have to add one more thing- I had to laugh (so as not to cry) at your idea of the Ramsey's as just the innocent "mail man" in the story.
 
Yes, I think that most killers who like to taunt the police/LE/FBI go on to do more. And, they become “more bold,” etc. Obviously, that didn’t happen in this case.

Of course, the Mindhunter speculation I’ve offered does not posit a killer who intended to taunt the police/LE/FBI. I am merely suggesting the possibility that the note and the crime scene was intended for them to discover and profile. I’m only presenting a “theory” of INTENT, not a theory of motive (to taunt, etc).
...

AK
 
^ Absolutely understood. Thanks for the clarification.
 
No worries. :)

To expound on this a bit further, consider a Zodiac, a Son of Sam, a Jack the Ripper or BTK. These guys wanted to taunt the authorities, and they wanted to take credit for their crimes – that’s one of the reasons that they invented those personas.

SBTC – not a person, not a foreign faction – is a “group of individuals” much like another group as described in his letters by FC (the Unabomber). FC, and perhaps SBTC, don’t want the credit – that goes to the (non-existent) group, because the crimes committed were motivated more by philosophical concerns than concerns of ego.
...

AK
 
Great post Madeleine! It really is a "how to" book. Mostly, "how to" stage and cover it up, and "how not to" get caught. He clearly tells what tripped up each of these killers. Mindhunter was his/her/their murder manual.

There were some similiarities to the Bell case. It was thought that he was really after the older sister but grabbed the younger one, possibly by mistake. He tormented the older sister with phone calls for quite a while.

Even more similar is the Suzanne Degnan case. A 6 yr old, taken from her bed & strangled, yet he still left a ransom note. That screams JonBenet!

Everything about JB's murder points directly back to that book, and one case or another. I think he got ideas from several different cases in the book. The only thing about JB's murder that differs from the book is that, IIRC, there weren't any parents that were guilty in the cases he discussed. It was all stranger & serial killers. Guess he figured JB's murder would look the same, and if he would have dumped her elsewhere, it probably would have!

Does anyone know if there is a documentry from any of the crime shows about the suzanne degnan case or who her killer was
 
Thanks .This is alittle of topic here but wow that guy isn't guilty at all that's a serious miscarriage of justice of you ask me ...
 
William Heirens - The Lipstick Killer

The Truth Drug

According to authorities, Heirens, under the power of the serum, spoke of a strange alter-ego, a shadow named "George" who committed his crimes for him. The figure of which he spoke was reflective of Robert Louis Stevenson's character, Edward Hyde, who haunted the illimitable Dr. Henry Jekyll. George, according to those who were present at the interview, slipped in and out of Heirens' life uncontrollably, a hoodoo relentless and deadly and void of conscience. In short, Heirens showed strong indications of being psychotic, living two personalities within a flesh and blood shell called William Heirens.


The Return of George

Before the lie detector test, but not long after the truth serum fiasco, Bill Heirens asked to see Captain Michael Ahern, one of the few policemen who had showed him some kindness. He told Ahern that he had more to say about his alter-ego, George. Ahern sent for the state's attorney, Touhy, and a stenographer, in front of whom Heirens admitted a kinship to his shady other half.


He admitted that there was a George he talked to, who did things for him, who may have been responsible for the crimes that were being tacked to Bill Heirens. It was George who stole those guns, who may have crawled into Suzanne Degnan's window, and who may have killed those other women.

In 1992, he was denied clemency. He died March 5, 2012.

http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/predators/heirens/truth_4.html


Bill Heirens cleverly cloaked his true persona. He knew he possessed an evil alter ego.

We can only wish Patsy had been administered truth serum.

SMHO
 
If JonBenet's killer was this raving monster...that person would have been identified already.

The person who killed JonBenet ramsey was someone that fit into the Ramsey's society. Someone that nobody would think twice about being in their yard, near the home or even in their home.

The killer was someone very much like John, Patsy or Burke...if not themselves.
 
7NEWS has
confirmed it involves a book by a well-known FBI profiler John Douglas.
The book is called Mindhunter. 7NEWS has confirmed that investigators
discovered the book in the Ramsey's bedroom. Sources tell us one of the
parents was reading it, but we don't know which one. The Ramsey's have
been questioned about it. The book describes many of the cases Douglas
worked on while he was at the F.B.I. Investigators are particularly
interested in a chapter that explains how the FBI helped catch Larry
Gene Bell, who was convicted and sentenced to death for kidnapping and
killing two girls in South Carolina in 1985. Experts say there are
several similarities between the case described in that chapter and the
Ramsey case. While the book doesn't mean anything by itself, when you
put it together with all the other details of the murder, it's an
important piece of information. We tried to contact the Ramsey's lawyers
about this, but they did not return our call. John and Patsy Ramsey have
said repeatedly they did not have anything to do with the death of their
daughter.


http://www.acandyrose.com/s-evidence-mindhunter.htm


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http://eotd.wordpress.com/2008/10/04...rry-gene-bell/


Larry Gene Bell



Today is given over to one particularly unsavoury character, who was convinced he was Jesus Christ up to the day he died.

His name is Larry Gene Bell and the American was sent to his death for murdering the sister of a former beauty queen hailing from South Carolina, among others.

28 days later

His evil activities spanned a mere 28 days and in that time, he did enough to earn the lurid title of serial killer in many people’s eyes. He would kidnap his intended prey, then rape them and ultimately kill them by suffocating them.

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1 MIKE KANE: Okay. What about "Mind
2 Hunter", John Douglas's book was there in the
3 house, had you purchased that?4 JOHN RAMSEY: No. It was there in
5 '96? Interesting.
6 MIKE KANE: Was it interesting?
7 JOHN RAMSEY: I never never heard
8 of John Douglas or that book before.
9 MIKE KANE: So you never read that?
10 JOHN RAMSEY: No. I bought one of
11 his books the next summer, his newer book.


1 How about the book Mind?
2 PATSY RAMSEY: No.
3 TOM HANEY: Do you recall that? Do you
4 recall seeing it around the house?
5 PATSY RAMSEY: Huh-uh.
6 TOM HANEY: You were not reading.
7 PATSY RAMSEY: No.
8 TOM HANEY: It is a book by John Douglas.
9 PATSY RAMSEY: I don't know.
10 TOM HANEY: Do you know who he is?
11 PATSY RAMSEY: John Douglas I know.

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PETER BOYLES: "We'll talk about the police interview and we'll talk about the books by the bed. One of the stories we broke was about John Douglas' book Mindhunter being seen in the crime scene photos. You know a little bit about books by the Ramseys beds..."

LINDA WILCOX: "Well, they each had a pile of books in the corner by the bed. Even though they had nightstands. Originally the nightstands weren't there until they redid the upstairs. And even afterwards, they tended to just throw the books there. So, I kind of knew who read what. So, Patsy's side had things like, you know poems for women and not really what I would consider true trash-like Harlequin romances, but more like Mary Higgins Clark, woman novels. Some of them, I had even read.

John's side of the bed was usually some kind of suspense-thriller. He tended to buy books by, what I call, by the numbers, I mean whatever's number 1 on the bestseller lists. Occasionally it would be something like the 7 habits of successful people, or financial things or even a (didn't hear) occasionally. But, generally it was some kind of suspense novel."
__________________


1998-08-04: Enquirer (Week of August 4, 1998):
Police reveal 'murder manual' found in mom & dad's bedroom

In a dramatic development in the JonBenet Ramsey murder case, police found a "hot-to murder manual" in the bedroom of the little beauty queen's parents!

The true-crime book describes a 1985 murder with amazing similarities to the brutal killing of JonBenet, who would have turned 8 on August 6.

And incredibly, it was written by John Douglas, former head of the FBI's behavioral science unit - and one of the first experts hired by JonBenet's father John after he and wife Patsy set up their own investigation team.

"The book was among several found during a search of John and Patsy's bedroom after JohBenet's body was discovered in the basement," said a source close to the case. "One of the investigators recently read through it in detail and was stunned at what he saw in one chapter.

"For someone planning a murder or staging its aftermath, it could amount to a how-to manual."

The book "Mind Hunter," was published in 1995, the year before JonBenet was murdered.

It describes the case of Larry Gene Bell, who abducted and murdered high school senior Shari Faye Smith and a 9-year-old girl near Columbia, S.C.

And Douglas, who helped solve the killings, lists circumstances in the case that were later eerily echoed in the JonBenet murder:

* After snatching Shari, the killer called her mother. His first words to her were, "Listen carefully." In the JonBenet case, the ransom note - which cops believe was written by Patsy Ramsey - starts with the words, "Listen carefully!"

* Shari was suffocated with duct tape, which was later pulled from her mouth and nose. When John Ramsey found his daughter's body he ripped duct tape from her mouth.

* Before she was killed Shari wrote a "last will and testament" to her family on a legal pad. The fake JonBenet ransom note was written on a yellow legal pad.

* Shari's killer collected *advertiser censored* featuring bondage. JonBenet's hands had been bound with cord before she was murdered.

* Shari's sister Dawn later won the Miss South Carolina beauty title and went on to finish as a runner-up in the Miss America pageant. Patsy Ramsey is a former Miss West Virginia - and she also competed for the Miss America title.

Both John and Patsy were questioned about the book in June, and they dismissed the similarities between the book and JonBenet's murder as sheer coincidence, The Enquirer has learned.

But Gregg McCrary - Douglas' fellow FBI profiler who was also approached to work for the Ramseys and turned them down - declared: "The longer you are in my business, the less you believe in coincidences.

"I believe the JonBenet crime scene was staged. Many times when people stage a crime scene it's based on their perception of what a real criminal would do - and they get that information from books or movies.

"The grand jury will have to weight whether these are a series of coincidences - or something else.

---

A movie about Bell's killings, called "Death of Innocence," was made in 1991 and filmed partly in York.


http://www.heraldonline.com/2007/10/...-murderer.html

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Chapter 16 tells of the kidnapping and murder of Shari Faye Smith May 31, 1985. Link JonBenet, Shari was a pretty blonde youngster who loved to perform on stage. Her sister was a beauty queen who - like Patsy - appeared in the Miss American contest. When Shari's killer called her family, he twice warned them to "listen carefully." The phony ransom note, which cops believe Patsy Ramsey wrote, began with the words "listen carefully."

Shari had duct tape stuck over her mouth. So did tragic JonBenet.

"The investigators believe that Patsy was deeply moved by the story of Shari's murder because of the similarities to her own family," the insider explains. "She later used it to invent a bogus kidnapping and ransom demand."

* On page 350, Douglas tells how perverts are sometimes first turned on by Barbie Dolls. A pink Barbie nightdress was placed close to JonBenet's body - planted, detectives believe, to reinforce the idea she was the victim of a perverted intruder.

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12 A. No, but Tom Wickman swears up and
13 down it was in the parents' bedroom.
14 Q. Does anyone else, besides Tom
15 Wickman, swear that up and down?
16 A. No, but Tom Wickman has told that
17 to several people.
18 Q. Where in the bedroom?
19 A. I was always under the impression
20 as we recollect it now on one of the two
21 night stands.


8 A. Yeah, Wickman is the source of
9 Mind Hunter by Douglas.
10 Q. Anyone else, besides Wickman, is
11 all I'm trying to find out?
12 A. Not that I'm aware of.
Sorry to post on an old thread but this was really interesting. The Ramsey's named their book "Death of Innocence," just like the movie of the murder that John Douglas wrote about in his book. I do believe now that they used his book as a guide with which to stage. And you all have me convinced it was John's book, so I do see him having a major part in the staging now. Thank you for your hard work and excellent information. I don't see how all this could be coincidence (not the name of their book, but the information in JD's book being so similar to JBR's death.)
 
Nom de plume,
Interesting points. I could accept this is where JR found his abduction scenario.

The SBTC part, well maybe, but whats the rationale, why indirectly reference Mindhunter?

That reminds me of the lone JDI theory where he leaves out the information in the RN that JonBenet is gone, before he has finished all his staging.

Apart from the religious theme, your explanation is at least directly linked to the forensic evidence, making it credible.

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Agree. Except I think John hired someone to do the killing. I think that's why it's been difficult to "prove" that John is the murderer. Also, he probably gave Patsy a sedative so that she would sleep soundly that night. (Yes, I know that they may have had separate bedrooms.)

Regarding Patsy - I think she was convinced that Burke had accidentally killed JB.

John also did quite a bit to frame Patsy, and to a lesser extent Burke and John Michael. (I think John purposely placed that suitcase with the incriminating evidence against the window, to implicate John Andrew. Or maybe not, maybe John wasn't aware of what was in the suitcase, and just placed the suitcase there to stage the idea of an intruder. OR the hired killer could have placed the suitcase there, having no idea what the contents of the suitcase were.)

Also, the hired killer went in through one of the doors, not the window. We know that because the cobweb and foliage and dust and debris were not disturbed, but I guess the open window and suitcase were part of the staging.

In addition, police found an instructional video on stun gun usage in John's possessions. Police traced the purchase to a spy shop in 1996. (Though John lied and claimed that he had the video since 1994.) There was probably a change in plans, since I don't think a stun gun was used in the murder.

Finally, some people have speculated that John hired Michael Helgoth to do the crime. But I doubt it; he probably hired someone more professional.

I would suggest that people look into John's business, as well as Subic Bay. Some very dubious connections and dealings.
 
^DP: How would they have broken into the house do you think?
BR: I've heard the basement window. I remember for a long time I, I think I unlocked the front door during Christmas day, and I always felt bad about doing that. Not that a locked door would stop somebody if they wanted to do something like that.

Burke Ramsey Interview - Statement Analysis®
 
^DP: How would they have broken into the house do you think?
BR: I've heard the basement window. I remember for a long time I, I think I unlocked the front door during Christmas day, and I always felt bad about doing that. Not that a locked door would stop somebody if they wanted to do something like that.

Burke Ramsey Interview - Statement Analysis®

His father probably convinced him of that. Remember that John is an evil and devious man. He could convince Burke of anything. John most likely turned the alarm OFF when they went to the December 25 Birthday party. The killer could enter through a side door.

I don't put my faith into anything Burke says. He was 9 years old and could be easily manipulated.

Thanks for the information!
 
^DP: How would they have broken into the house do you think?
BR: I've heard the basement window. I remember for a long time I, I think I unlocked the front door during Christmas day, and I always felt bad about doing that. Not that a locked door would stop somebody if they wanted to do something like that.

Burke Ramsey Interview - Statement Analysis®

Tadpole12,
More calculated fiction from BR, now older and wiser, he is promoting the pedophile theory.

What has Burke unlocking the front door on Christmas Day got to do with it, i.e. they left for the White's Christmas Day evening, is Burke saying nobody locked the front door, duh?

Heads up on the legal status of Burke's interview replies. They mean nothing out of court, only the words he utters in a court room matter, any judge would tell the jury this, as this would represent BR's sworn testimony, so just ignore anything else.

Note BR's initial version of events now differs from the above, this is revision in real time, must be why JR tossed in the nugget about putting BR to bed using the flashlight?

Fake NE headline:
Millionare puts son to bed using flashlight, must be to save electricity

Or did BR use the flashlight to visit JonBenet's bedroom where her ceiling light was broken?

Clever Patsy when interviewed on this topic avoids a direct answer saying she redressed JonBenet by the light from her bathroom, she says she fetched the long johns from there.

.
 
His father probably convinced him of that. Remember that John is an evil and devious man. He could convince Burke of anything. John most likely turned the alarm OFF when they went to the December 25 Birthday party. The killer could enter through a side door.

I don't put my faith into anything Burke says. He was 9 years old and could be easily manipulated.

Thanks for the information!

Burke was manipulated in telling detectives that JonBenet was awake when they got home and she walked up the spiral staircase?
 

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