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No offense to DS but I don't necessarily believe the peeps who may be covering their own arses. I bet LE has ways of verifying a claim if they feel it is important enough. Still it came to my attention so I put it down for the sake of documentation.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying DS was involved in any way but, if he was, I don't think he'd come here and tell us the details of his involvement. People use smoke screens sometimes.

I just can't keep from wondering why RG told LE that. I know he was miffed that JG was being implicated but why would he go and implicate someone else? RG might of been concerned for his own kid so was offering up other possibilities but in doing that, he was doing the same thing to someone else.

RG was trying to clear his son's name but IMO it would not have been at the expense of an innocent party. Maybe he read/heard Annie moved out but mistakenly wrote down DS because it was his apartment? He did say he had a lot of notes. I'm not sure of the specifics with regard to DS and his living arrangements but I just can't believe RG was maliciously trying to implicate DS. RG told LE about everyone he was able to connect to Casey...good, bad or indifferent (mostly bad because well, that's Casey!).

I have to say one thing for RG, he is one heck of a father and Jesse is a very lucky young man! RG seems like a kind human being who made it a priority to raise a decent son. I believe he was simply trying to do the right thing. It's obvious the Grunds loved Caylee very much. Despite the fact they were not biological grandparents, they grieved for Caylee while her family looked the other way. They offered to help and the Anthonys turned on Jesse. No wonder George avoided him. I'm sure George saw in RG everything he himself lacked as a father, grandfather and husband. And Cindy saw someone who knew the truth about Casey!
 
RG was trying to clear his son's name but IMO it would not have been at the expense of an innocent party. Maybe he read/heard Annie moved out but mistakenly wrote down DS because it was his apartment? He did say he had a lot of notes. I'm not sure of the specifics with regard to DS and his living arrangements but I just can't believe RG was maliciously trying to implicate DS. RG told LE about everyone he was able to connect to Casey...good, bad or indifferent (mostly bad because well, that's Casey!).

I have to say one thing for RG, he is one heck of a father and Jesse is a very lucky young man! RG seems like a kind human being who made it a priority to raise a decent son. I believe he was simply trying to do the right thing. It's obvious the Grunds loved Caylee very much. Despite the fact they were not biological grandparents, they grieved for Caylee while her family looked the other way. They offered to help and the Anthonys turned on Jesse. No wonder George avoided him. I'm sure George saw in RG everything he himself lacked as a father, grandfather and husband. And Cindy saw someone who knew the truth about Casey!

Rev. Grund admitted he made a mistake on his myspace blog of April 7. Just makes you respect the man that much more. An excerpt:

But, before I get into anything I want to address something I must repent of.

Up until that point and the first document dump, I was working under the assumption that Caylee could still be alive and that there was some deeper darker conspiracy surrounding Casey and her actions. I forgot the first rule of any investigation or research - usually the first answer, the easiest answer is the correct answer. At the end of my interview I began to share with law enforcement various notes and people of interest in what I thought at the time was a missing child case and that others were involved. I mentioned three or four names of friends of Casey who we know now had no connection to Caylee's disappearance and had done nothing wrong in regards to the case. What I think about their life style or personal choices is irrelevant to the situation at hand. While I do not condone their actions I do acknowledge their right to choose them. HOWEVER idle speculation about them is now in print and public information. Without realizing it I did to them what being done to my son and even though I did not think it would be made public, it was still wrong. I am sincerely sorry and disgusted with my choice at that moment. Although I did not understand the Florida laws and did not know it would become public information BEFORE the trial, nor was that explained to me, it does not excuse or mitigate the power and danger of IDLE SPECULATION. So, to all of those young men and their parents I apologize profusely. I will try to reach out to them personally but most of the pages are private and their messages blocked. I hope they get to read this and know that I acknowledge my mistake.
 
RG was trying to clear his son's name but IMO it would not have been at the expense of an innocent party. Maybe he read/heard Annie moved out but mistakenly wrote down DS because it was his apartment? He did say he had a lot of notes. I'm not sure of the specifics with regard to DS and his living arrangements but I just can't believe RG was maliciously trying to implicate DS. RG told LE about everyone he was able to connect to Casey...good, bad or indifferent (mostly bad because well, that's Casey!).

I have to say one thing for RG, he is one heck of a father and Jesse is a very lucky young man! RG seems like a kind human being who made it a priority to raise a decent son. I believe he was simply trying to do the right thing. It's obvious the Grunds loved Caylee very much. Despite the fact they were not biological grandparents, they grieved for Caylee while her family looked the other way. They offered to help and the Anthonys turned on Jesse. No wonder George avoided him. I'm sure George saw in RG everything he himself lacked as a father, grandfather and husband. And Cindy saw someone who knew the truth about Casey!


:clap::blowkiss::clap::blowkiss::clap::blowkiss::clap::clap::blowkiss:
 
Rev. Grund admitted he made a mistake on his myspace blog of April 7. Just makes you respect the man that much more. An excerpt:

God, this is how we wish Caylees family would act if they were decent....
I am really touched.
 
Rev. Grund admitted he made a mistake on his myspace blog of April 7. Just makes you respect the man that much more. An excerpt:


JWG, whatever you do don't change that av!
(gawd but i'm shallow)
 
RG was trying to clear his son's name but IMO it would not have been at the expense of an innocent party. Maybe he read/heard Annie moved out but mistakenly wrote down DS because it was his apartment? He did say he had a lot of notes. I'm not sure of the specifics with regard to DS and his living arrangements but I just can't believe RG was maliciously trying to implicate DS. RG told LE about everyone he was able to connect to Casey...good, bad or indifferent (mostly bad because well, that's Casey!).

I have to say one thing for RG, he is one heck of a father and Jesse is a very lucky young man! RG seems like a kind human being who made it a priority to raise a decent son. I believe he was simply trying to do the right thing. It's obvious the Grunds loved Caylee very much. Despite the fact they were not biological grandparents, they grieved for Caylee while her family looked the other way. They offered to help and the Anthonys turned on Jesse. No wonder George avoided him. I'm sure George saw in RG everything he himself lacked as a father, grandfather and husband. And Cindy saw someone who knew the truth about Casey!

I don't personally know any of these people. What I am saying from an outside view, is that either RG had more info than mere speculation, or he was trying to divert LE's attention elsewhere. I understand he would be upset when he got wind that JG was being finger pointed but, from the outside, it looks as if he was pointing fingers at others too. He was protective of his son and wanted to make sure LE focused on other possibilities.

Mainly, I'm just wondering if there is any truth that Dante moved out or possibly changed apartments. If RG meant to say Annie he didn't. He said Dante. He also mentioned that DS had changed jobs and other stuff. So he clearly was not thinking of Annie. You can listen to his interview yourself and hear what I heard. Annie said she had moved out a long time ago. That would have to be substantiated too - maybe LE checks mailing addresses, etc. to verify if peeps are telling the truth if they think it's important.
 
Thanks JWG - See, I'm not so off base with my thoughts. I try to keep Christ in my heart too. I make my share of mistakes. I appreciate you bringing that written entry of RG's for those of us who would not have seen it. But I wasn't even so worried about that as I was wondering if there was any truth to the claims he had made. I guess not.

It is easy for peeps to say what the right thing to do is when we are calm; it is when we are being tested it becomes hard and all humanness can take over. Thank God He does not give up on us or we'd all be doomed imho!
 
I don't personally know any of these people. What I am saying from an outside view, is that either RG had more info than mere speculation, or he was trying to divert LE's attention elsewhere. I understand he would be upset when he got wind that JG was being finger pointed but, from the outside, it looks as if he was pointing fingers at others too. He was protective of his son and wanted to make sure LE focused on other possibilities.

Mainly, I'm just wondering if there is any truth that Dante moved out or possibly changed apartments. If RG meant to say Annie he didn't. He said Dante. He also mentioned that DS had changed jobs and other stuff. So he clearly was not thinking of Annie. You can listen to his interview yourself and hear what I heard. Annie said she had moved out a long time ago. That would have to be substantiated too - maybe LE checks mailing addresses, etc. to verify if peeps are telling the truth if they think it's important.


RG also mentioned Brandon S's name IIRC, saying how someone might mistake BS and his car for JG, or something along those lines. Not to mention saying that KC was "diabolical" enough (a term JG also likes to use) to go to JG's apartment for the "shower" in order to get hair or underwear from JG's apartment to frame him with, etc.

Reading RG's interviews it sounded like he might be following blog coverage such as this board or others, maybe he was confused about DS leaving his job at DRF on that date, or confused about Annie having moved out of Sawgrass, etc. It's an interesting question though, definitely worth checking, I don't know for sure if he had ever changed apartments within the Sawgrass complex or not.
IIRC for some reason we also got the idea here at WS very early in the case that Dante had moved out of Sawgrass, before that was cleared up somewhere along the line, whether it was when he came online and said "no I still live there", or if it was before, I can't remember. Maybe we got him confused in the beginning with the Society Entertainment guy, DW, who was no longer living at Sawgrass or I don't know what. (In the early days we also thought SD's name was Lake Vaj and that he was 39 years old and that he lived at Sawgrass! :) ha ha ) Maybe RG was just confused by something he'd read though I do wonder now, good question.

Thanks for your great posts! When I hear anyone go on about CA supposedly "throwing people under the bus" I just have to laugh (well, laugh isn't the word) because she has been SO much more charitable and restrained in her statements about others than those people have been in their statements. And she was obviously under far more stress in every way, she's the one whose grandchild was missing. Though of course I can understand the Gs' concerns, too.

edited to add: I have to say I was pretty shocked at some of the petty, insulting, and strange comments made by RG in his interviews. (And by "strange" I'm not talking about his "vision" that he had of Caylee, by the way.) I had gotten a better impression of him in his early television appearances. The A's have certainly never said anything about him (or his wife) or anyone, like he has said about them. Nor do I think they ever would from what I've seen.

Again, I can understand he was probably under stress and tired and not himself during the interview. It's strange though how some people want to make him out to be some kind of saint, JG also, pillars of decency and all that, and how the most basic understanding and respect is not extended to the grandparents of the victim, for example. MOO
 
I posted over on the RG thread regarding his claim to LE that Dante had moved out of his apartment at Sawgrass in of June '08. I wonder what prompted him to say that?

Is there any truth to it? Could DS have moved from one apartment into another apartment while remaining at Sawgrass?

I had not noticed RG's statement prior to a day or so ago so it may be old news.

Why would RG point that out to LE if it wasn't true?

In Dante's September 22 post here, he said he still lived in Sawgrass and that he had lived there for 3 years.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2721099&postcount=22

There were lots of online rumors before Dante came online here speculating that Dante had changed jobs and that he had moved ect. Whether or not Dante lived at Sawgrass was the FIRST question websleuthers asked Dante when he came to websleuths. In his own words, "I am coming forward on your forum to disspell any and all rumors about me."
:clap::clap::clap:And, he did.

So on September 5 when RG was interviewed (http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Grund, Richard-0905.pdf) he was trying to make sure LE has ANY and ALL information to help find Caylee. Every name RG gave LE was being talked about at various online web sites. RG wasn't repeating secret inside stuff. http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Grund, Richard-0905.pdf (pages 31 to 35)
 
Rev. Grund admitted he made a mistake on his myspace blog of April 7. Just makes you respect the man that much more. An excerpt:

Interesting how he is only concerned about having spoken wrongly about "young men and their parents"....that fits in exactly with the whole tone of his interviews.

Nice he would apologize about that at least, though. I'll give him that.
Thanks for posting it.
 
CA most certainly DID "throw JG under the bus"!! Every chance she got! And, I doubt she'll EVER apologize....
 
* READ ONLY* Bumping for reference in light of Dante's testimony in court today
 
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