The RIFT Between Casey and Her Family.."Strategy" or for Real?*revisit*

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I think publicly, Cindy wants the world to believe what a great mom she is, that her daughter murdered her granddaughter, but look at Cindy, still at court everytime, still supporting her despicable daughter no matter what. Cindy is martyring herself because that's the only way she can keep up the perfect image of herself. Everything is crumbling around her, but hey everyone, look at me and how much I'm suffering because of the loss of Caylee and the accusations against Casey. What is a good mother to do but keep supporting her daughter no matter what and keep her from dying? And her having nervousness the day Casey fell - once again, good mothers have those feelings when something bad's going to happen to their children. It's all to keep convincing herself that she is a good mom despite her daughter killing her granddaughter.

She's also basically made this whole case about herself and her suffering. Forget Caylee, forget the fact that Casey was bad long before Caylee died. It's all about everyone watching Cindy torture herself each hearing, getting hurt over and over again, but she keeps prevailing and loving Casey. Because that's a what good mom would do, love her kid no matter how crappy that kid treats her. Good moms are supposed to martyr themselves that way. I don't think she could sit at home and not be in the spotlight as this great martyr.

Her selfishness has no bounds. I mean look at her statement against the molestation accusations Casey brought up against George and Lee. There was no standing up for George or even for her son (and by God she should have stood up for Lee if not for George). There was only Cindy covering her own *advertiser censored* so she could keep her nursing license. Who in their right mind makes sure to say that it was never reported? If someone accused someone I loved of that, it would just be a denial it ever happened. It wouldn't enter my mind to add on that it was never reported. That was the strangest thing to come out of BC's mouth, and I know she put it there.

Privately, it's a whole different story with Cindy. I think she hates Casey with a passion. I think she'd like to go back to that night of the fight and finish strangling Casey instead of stopping and letting Casey continue to live. I think she probably takes pictures and cuts Casey out of them, maybe even burns them. I think this whole public battle is her way of keeping herself intact as well winning this "game" against Casey. It had to stab her in the heart when Casey told her Happy Mother's Day and I'm sure she went home and had a sh** fit about it. But if you noticed in court, she acted like that was the best thing in the world she could hear. Yeah, right, Cindy!

I think privately, she also is absolutely horrified and angry about the total lack of control she has over Casey now. She reminds me of the leader of a prison gang or street gang. Once you get in, you don't get out alive, and if you do wrong, the leader will make sure you're taken care of. Whether you live or die is up to the leader of the gang. No police, only gang justice. But Cindy can't do that now because she made that one phone call. I think she kicks herself everyday that she made that call and got the police involved. She wanted to handle this HER way, and now she can't do that. It's not about loving Casey over Caylee, it's about her having control over Casey and it kills her that she can't do that anymore.

So I don't think the rift is a scam, I think the supposed making up is total crap. They were trying to make Casey more human, but it failed miserably. And as for George and Lee, they've been controlled and brainwashed by Cindy for so long, they don't know to function without her telling them to what to do. She's like their warden, and they're her prisoners, even Lee who doesn't live with her. I suspect they know what Casey did and wish they had the cajones to stand up to Cindy and do what's right, but they can't cross the warden or she'll make their lives even more hell. And she's had years of practice to be very good at that.

Do they love each other? Maybe in the twisted, dysfunctional way they've learned to love each other, but this is no loving family torn apart. This is a private hell made public, and the players don't know how to cope with it except to live in lies and delusions to make it through every day. For Lee, it's hiding and lying through his lawyer. For George, it was being Cindy's puppet, saying what she wanted him to say and doing what she wanted him to do. But George is now collapsing, unable to going along with the lies anymore, which is why we don't see him at the hearings anymore. I doubt he and Cindy sleep in the same room anymore or talk to each other much. Neither of the men can live the lie in public anymore. Only Cindy with her grandiose delusions of martryrdom can keep the facade of the perfect family going in her mind, and that motivates her to keep being in the public eye.

So rift = real. Lovey dovey family togetherness = total bull****

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It's nearly Christmas...another year without Caylee AND another year without the Anthonys physically going to the jail to see KC.

GA and CA have explained that they do not see KC at the jail because "they" pick apart everything in the videos. "They" are the reason that GA and CA (and presumably Lee) can't see KC.

The above explanation doesn't wash with WS'ers (I've seen in other posts)...and I am wondering how you feel about the rift between KC and her family. In my experience a bona fide feud or rift is very difficult to overcome. I've had times during my lifetime when I did not speak with important members of my family and the more time that racked up during the feud/rift...the harder it was to begin speaking again. AND..it generally takes some special circumstance/event in order to begin talking again. Have you ever not spoken with key people in your life (like your Mother/sibling/etc?) It is such a major thing to not speak for over a year! Of course, the A's may be writing to KC...but if there is no answer, it is still considered silence.

Wouldn't the A's be smart to go to the jail over Christmas just to say Merry Christmas, Casey? If they REALLY want to support KC..shouldn't they do that..or is the feud/rift getting too be too major of a divide?

Do you think the silence/lack of any visit is an indicator of strategy as outlined by the A's? or is it really a feud (instigated by Casey)?

Great thread! It's always fun to have a passage of time between an original query and a response. Specially when everything is still completely relevant.
I do believe there's an A strategy at play here but it's their idea alone and not one supported by their lawyer. I'm not even sure that with AL and the others on board, that the idea of not visiting KC to protect her defense as suggested by JB is legitimate this far into things. I do believe a family reunion is the basis of the motion the defense made, requesting that the visitor log be sealed though.
I do believe spoiled rotten KC did initiate the no contact as a punishment for her parents and Lee for not getting her out of there when they had the chance to and that stupid refusal to see her visitors started her no contact. So I do believe there`s a rift. I just don`t believe it has to do with lying, murder or theft, it has to do with KC being pissed off that being the CEO of her corporation didn`t result in her minions doing what she said too. In an eye for an eye sort of way, the rest of the A`s started to play along. I think the only reason visiting is an issue is because the public and other normally minded folks are wondering why this family is sooooo dysfunctional and point to the no visits at Christmas or the anniversary of Caylees kidnapping, reported missing date, birthday or whatever as examples. In light of KC`s complete innocence in her families eyes, years without contact on the pretense that they are preserving her defense is ridiculous IMO.
 
Great thread! It's always fun to have a passage of time between an original query and a response. Specially when everything is still completely relevant.
I do believe there's an A strategy at play here but it's their idea alone and not one supported by their lawyer. I'm not even sure that with AL and the others on board, that the idea of not visiting KC to protect her defense as suggested by JB is legitimate this far into things. I do believe a family reunion is the basis of the motion the defense made, requesting that the visitor log be sealed though.
I do believe spoiled rotten KC did initiate the no contact as a punishment for her parents and Lee for not getting her out of there when they had the chance to and that stupid refusal to see her visitors started her no contact. So I do believe there`s a rift. I just don`t believe it has to do with lying, murder or theft, it has to do with KC being pissed off that being the CEO of her corporation didn`t result in her minions doing what she said too. In an eye for an eye sort of way, the rest of the A`s started to play along. I think the only reason visiting is an issue is because the public and other normally minded folks are wondering why this family is sooooo dysfunctional and point to the no visits at Christmas or the anniversary of Caylees kidnapping, reported missing date, birthday or whatever as examples. In light of KC`s complete innocence in her families eyes, years without contact on the pretense that they are preserving her defense is ridiculous IMO.

ITA! I mean, does anybody really think that CA would let someone else tell her what she can and cannot do with her child? No way! If she wanted to be there, she would be, and Jose be damned! Nothing would stop her. JMO.
 
ITA! I mean, does anybody really think that CA would let someone else tell her what she can and cannot do with her child? No way! If she wanted to be there, she would be, and Jose be damned! Nothing would stop her. JMO.

I think Casey doesn't want to see her. I think even if Cindy was to show up to visit, Casey would say no. I believe the last thing Casey wants to do is look her parents in the eye now that they "know" that Caylee is dead and they know Casey killed her..imo
She has yet to see/talk to her parents face to face since Caylee's remains have been found and i honestly believe it is Casey not CA,GA or Lee.


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I dont believe any of their carp.One simple reason.LP. and his girl who worked for him both stated the entire family never mentioned Caylee or the case during KC's stay at home.If they could shut up then, why not during a visit? They dont care to talk period.
 
I think publicly, Cindy wants the world to believe what a great mom she is, that her daughter murdered her granddaughter, but look at Cindy, still at court everytime, still supporting her despicable daughter no matter what. Cindy is martyring herself because that's the only way she can keep up the perfect image of herself. Everything is crumbling around her, but hey everyone, look at me and how much I'm suffering because of the loss of Caylee and the accusations against Casey. What is a good mother to do but keep supporting her daughter no matter what and keep her from dying? And her having nervousness the day Casey fell - once again, good mothers have those feelings when something bad's going to happen to their children. It's all to keep convincing herself that she is a good mom despite her daughter killing her granddaughter.

She's also basically made this whole case about herself and her suffering. Forget Caylee, forget the fact that Casey was bad long before Caylee died. It's all about everyone watching Cindy torture herself each hearing, getting hurt over and over again, but she keeps prevailing and loving Casey. Because that's a what good mom would do, love her kid no matter how crappy that kid treats her. Good moms are supposed to martyr themselves that way. I don't think she could sit at home and not be in the spotlight as this great martyr.

Her selfishness has no bounds. I mean look at her statement against the molestation accusations Casey brought up against George and Lee. There was no standing up for George or even for her son (and by God she should have stood up for Lee if not for George). There was only Cindy covering her own *advertiser censored* so she could keep her nursing license. Who in their right mind makes sure to say that it was never reported? If someone accused someone I loved of that, it would just be a denial it ever happened. It wouldn't enter my mind to add on that it was never reported. That was the strangest thing to come out of BC's mouth, and I know she put it there.

Privately, it's a whole different story with Cindy. I think she hates Casey with a passion. I think she'd like to go back to that night of the fight and finish strangling Casey instead of stopping and letting Casey continue to live. I think she probably takes pictures and cuts Casey out of them, maybe even burns them. I think this whole public battle is her way of keeping herself intact as well winning this "game" against Casey. It had to stab her in the heart when Casey told her Happy Mother's Day and I'm sure she went home and had a sh** fit about it. But if you noticed in court, she acted like that was the best thing in the world she could hear. Yeah, right, Cindy!

I think privately, she also is absolutely horrified and angry about the total lack of control she has over Casey now. She reminds me of the leader of a prison gang or street gang. Once you get in, you don't get out alive, and if you do wrong, the leader will make sure you're taken care of. Whether you live or die is up to the leader of the gang. No police, only gang justice. But Cindy can't do that now because she made that one phone call. I think she kicks herself everyday that she made that call and got the police involved. She wanted to handle this HER way, and now she can't do that. It's not about loving Casey over Caylee, it's about her having control over Casey and it kills her that she can't do that anymore.

So I don't think the rift is a scam, I think the supposed making up is total crap. They were trying to make Casey more human, but it failed miserably. And as for George and Lee, they've been controlled and brainwashed by Cindy for so long, they don't know to function without her telling them to what to do. She's like their warden, and they're her prisoners, even Lee who doesn't live with her. I suspect they know what Casey did and wish they had the cajones to stand up to Cindy and do what's right, but they can't cross the warden or she'll make their lives even more hell. And she's had years of practice to be very good at that.

Do they love each other? Maybe in the twisted, dysfunctional way they've learned to love each other, but this is no loving family torn apart. This is a private hell made public, and the players don't know how to cope with it except to live in lies and delusions to make it through every day. For Lee, it's hiding and lying through his lawyer. For George, it was being Cindy's puppet, saying what she wanted him to say and doing what she wanted him to do. But George is now collapsing, unable to going along with the lies anymore, which is why we don't see him at the hearings anymore. I doubt he and Cindy sleep in the same room anymore or talk to each other much. Neither of the men can live the lie in public anymore. Only Cindy with her grandiose delusions of martryrdom can keep the facade of the perfect family going in her mind, and that motivates her to keep being in the public eye.

So rift = real. Lovey dovey family togetherness = total bull****

Fantastic post! ITA
 
Great thread! It's always fun to have a passage of time between an original query and a response. Specially when everything is still completely relevant.
I do believe there's an A strategy at play here but it's their idea alone and not one supported by their lawyer. I'm not even sure that with AL and the others on board, that the idea of not visiting KC to protect her defense as suggested by JB is legitimate this far into things. I do believe a family reunion is the basis of the motion the defense made, requesting that the visitor log be sealed though.
I do believe spoiled rotten KC did initiate the no contact as a punishment for her parents and Lee for not getting her out of there when they had the chance to and that stupid refusal to see her visitors started her no contact. So I do believe there`s a rift. I just don`t believe it has to do with lying, murder or theft, it has to do with KC being pissed off that being the CEO of her corporation didn`t result in her minions doing what she said too. In an eye for an eye sort of way, the rest of the A`s started to play along. I think the only reason visiting is an issue is because the public and other normally minded folks are wondering why this family is sooooo dysfunctional and point to the no visits at Christmas or the anniversary of Caylees kidnapping, reported missing date, birthday or whatever as examples. In light of KC`s complete innocence in her families eyes, years without contact on the pretense that they are preserving her defense is ridiculous IMO.
It's been mentioned that the visitor log for the jail (the one that JB wants to be kept "secret") is not the same as the visitor log that ordinary folk would use when they come to visit (video chat). Does JB want both kept from public viewing?
 
It's nearly Christmas...another year without Caylee AND another year without the Anthonys physically going to the jail to see KC.

GA and CA have explained that they do not see KC at the jail because "they" pick apart everything in the videos. "They" are the reason that GA and CA (and presumably Lee) can't see KC.

The above explanation doesn't wash with WS'ers (I've seen in other posts)...and I am wondering how you feel about the rift between KC and her family. In my experience a bona fide feud or rift is very difficult to overcome. I've had times during my lifetime when I did not speak with important members of my family and the more time that racked up during the feud/rift...the harder it was to begin speaking again. AND..it generally takes some special circumstance/event in order to begin talking again. Have you ever not spoken with key people in your life (like your Mother/sibling/etc?) It is such a major thing to not speak for over a year! Of course, the A's may be writing to KC...but if there is no answer, it is still considered silence.

Wouldn't the A's be smart to go to the jail over Christmas just to say Merry Christmas, Casey? If they REALLY want to support KC..shouldn't they do that..or is the feud/rift getting too be too major of a divide?

Do you think the silence/lack of any visit is an indicator of strategy as outlined by the A's? or is it really a feud (instigated by Casey)?

glad this thread was bumped up, here we are now, 2 year anniversary, June 2010, still no visits. I agree with what you were saying here and I wonder the same things. Maybe a bit of all of these. Plus, I think, the defense trying to prevent Casey talking to people, I think that was at the root of it, too.

In the beginning I remember her family expressed concern that Baez was isolating her, and leading her down a wrong path by keeping her from speaking more openly to police and them, and I wondered exactly the same thing. I've sometimes had the impression Baez assumed she might be guilty so questioned her very little and just kept her from talking, when in fact, she may not be guilty but just crazy, but not talking has certainly made her look guilty.
I also wondered along the way if Casey's defense team were trying to isolate her in order to prepare her for whatever strategy they may go with in the end whether at trial stage or a mitigation stage, like bringing suspicion on family members or raising the question of possible sexual abuse of Casey as a small child, etc. (We do see hints of these things maybe being explored by the defense, i.e. their therapist person meeting with Casey to explore "sensitive subjects" and going to Ohio to talk to relatives, the mention by Casey to Robyn in letters about new memories of possibly being sexually abused as a child, etc. Maybe the therapist is exploring this idea with Casey.)
It was also strange in the letters when Casey said that she'd found out Lee had been speaking from a script when he'd visited her at the prison, a script/questions provided by police. There is no sign that this is true, it doesn't appear to be, seemed like he was totally on his own, so I wondered where she got this idea? I hope her defense didn't give her this idea, again to help isolate her. Maybe this just sprang from her own paranoia though. That is a pretty classic theme in some mental illnesses, thinking the people in your life are speaking from scripts, etc. Similar to the thing about "Z and S" giving her a script to follow, etc.....)
I do get the feeling that Casey has been convinced by her defense team that talking with her family will hurt her case, though, the whole thing of "the tapes will be released, they will be twisted and misconshtrued" etc.) I think bottom line they still want to prevent her from talking, even to her family.
 
I've always suspected the defense was behind this, particularly because GA and CA did seem to be unhappy with JB at the beginning. There could be a number of reasons for this. One I would add to the discussion is that keeping KC isolated and proceeding to trial, instead of encouraging her to speak and/or plea, appears to have been pretty lucrative for JB; he got most of the blood money proceeds in exchange for what seems to have been very little labor, given how slowly the defense is proceeding. Having the family all spend time together might have nipped that in the bud.
 
Maybe the defense just provided the little contacts like "here's a little note from your mom", "here's a little text from your mom" etc, but don't actually meet and talk because the media will have "field day"-- then Casey and the family found that easier than really talking, and just got used to it.

Still, I wouldn't think Cindy would be able to stay away this long. I think she would still go and beat her head against the wall trying to get one direct answer from Casey and just sitting there and crying when Casey kept talking about nonsense. I don't know if a mother could stay away. I think it must be a policy of not taking visits or something that the defense have urged Casey to follow. The very sad thing is, I think Casey actually thinks the defense are her new "family" and friends, and also that somehow they are going to get her acquitted without her even testifying or explaining anything, that it's actually been best for her not to talk all this time. She was glad to go along with this tact because she is delusional. I think she will be desolate when the trial is over and it's bye bye from her defense team, sorry it didn't work out.
 
Simple explanation. Why ask the question when ya know the answer.

Rift or no rift, they know the answer and their part in it.

Remember CA has another brother besides RP. Apparently they haven't had contact for years, IIRC reading from RPs docs long ago. CA can and will hold a grudge for years. Would like to know SPs take on this sometime and will probably know at trial when she testifies.
 
I think publicly, Cindy wants the world to believe what a great mom she is, that her daughter murdered her granddaughter, but look at Cindy, still at court everytime, still supporting her despicable daughter no matter what. Cindy is martyring herself because that's the only way she can keep up the perfect image of herself. Everything is crumbling around her, but hey everyone, look at me and how much I'm suffering because of the loss of Caylee and the accusations against Casey. What is a good mother to do but keep supporting her daughter no matter what and keep her from dying? And her having nervousness the day Casey fell - once again, good mothers have those feelings when something bad's going to happen to their children. It's all to keep convincing herself that she is a good mom despite her daughter killing her granddaughter.

She's also basically made this whole case about herself and her suffering. Forget Caylee, forget the fact that Casey was bad long before Caylee died. It's all about everyone watching Cindy torture herself each hearing, getting hurt over and over again, but she keeps prevailing and loving Casey. Because that's a what good mom would do, love her kid no matter how crappy that kid treats her. Good moms are supposed to martyr themselves that way. I don't think she could sit at home and not be in the spotlight as this great martyr.

Her selfishness has no bounds. I mean look at her statement against the molestation accusations Casey brought up against George and Lee. There was no standing up for George or even for her son (and by God she should have stood up for Lee if not for George). There was only Cindy covering her own *advertiser censored* so she could keep her nursing license. Who in their right mind makes sure to say that it was never reported? If someone accused someone I loved of that, it would just be a denial it ever happened. It wouldn't enter my mind to add on that it was never reported. That was the strangest thing to come out of BC's mouth, and I know she put it there.

Privately, it's a whole different story with Cindy. I think she hates Casey with a passion. I think she'd like to go back to that night of the fight and finish strangling Casey instead of stopping and letting Casey continue to live. I think she probably takes pictures and cuts Casey out of them, maybe even burns them. I think this whole public battle is her way of keeping herself intact as well winning this "game" against Casey. It had to stab her in the heart when Casey told her Happy Mother's Day and I'm sure she went home and had a sh** fit about it. But if you noticed in court, she acted like that was the best thing in the world she could hear. Yeah, right, Cindy!

I think privately, she also is absolutely horrified and angry about the total lack of control she has over Casey now. She reminds me of the leader of a prison gang or street gang. Once you get in, you don't get out alive, and if you do wrong, the leader will make sure you're taken care of. Whether you live or die is up to the leader of the gang. No police, only gang justice. But Cindy can't do that now because she made that one phone call. I think she kicks herself everyday that she made that call and got the police involved. She wanted to handle this HER way, and now she can't do that. It's not about loving Casey over Caylee, it's about her having control over Casey and it kills her that she can't do that anymore.

So I don't think the rift is a scam, I think the supposed making up is total crap. They were trying to make Casey more human, but it failed miserably. And as for George and Lee, they've been controlled and brainwashed by Cindy for so long, they don't know to function without her telling them to what to do. She's like their warden, and they're her prisoners, even Lee who doesn't live with her. I suspect they know what Casey did and wish they had the cajones to stand up to Cindy and do what's right, but they can't cross the warden or she'll make their lives even more hell. And she's had years of practice to be very good at that.

Do they love each other? Maybe in the twisted, dysfunctional way they've learned to love each other, but this is no loving family torn apart. This is a private hell made public, and the players don't know how to cope with it except to live in lies and delusions to make it through every day. For Lee, it's hiding and lying through his lawyer. For George, it was being Cindy's puppet, saying what she wanted him to say and doing what she wanted him to do. But George is now collapsing, unable to going along with the lies anymore, which is why we don't see him at the hearings anymore. I doubt he and Cindy sleep in the same room anymore or talk to each other much. Neither of the men can live the lie in public anymore. Only Cindy with her grandiose delusions of martryrdom can keep the facade of the perfect family going in her mind, and that motivates her to keep being in the public eye.

So rift = real. Lovey dovey family togetherness = total bull****

Aedrys spot on, your post rocks! :clap:
 
glad this thread was bumped up, here we are now, 2 year anniversary, June 2010, still no visits. I agree with what you were saying here and I wonder the same things. Maybe a bit of all of these. Plus, I think, the defense trying to prevent Casey talking to people, I think that was at the root of it, too.

In the beginning I remember her family expressed concern that Baez was isolating her, and leading her down a wrong path by keeping her from speaking more openly to police and them, and I wondered exactly the same thing. I've sometimes had the impression Baez assumed she might be guilty so questioned her very little and just kept her from talking, when in fact, she may not be guilty but just crazy, but not talking has certainly made her look guilty.
I also wondered along the way if Casey's defense team were trying to isolate her in order to prepare her for whatever strategy they may go with in the end whether at trial stage or a mitigation stage, like bringing suspicion on family members or raising the question of possible sexual abuse of Casey as a small child, etc. (We do see hints of these things maybe being explored by the defense, i.e. their therapist person meeting with Casey to explore "sensitive subjects" and going to Ohio to talk to relatives, the mention by Casey to Robyn in letters about new memories of possibly being sexually abused as a child, etc. Maybe the therapist is exploring this idea with Casey.)
It was also strange in the letters when Casey said that she'd found out Lee had been speaking from a script when he'd visited her at the prison, a script/questions provided by police. There is no sign that this is true, it doesn't appear to be, seemed like he was totally on his own, so I wondered where she got this idea? I hope her defense didn't give her this idea, again to help isolate her. Maybe this just sprang from her own paranoia though. That is a pretty classic theme in some mental illnesses, thinking the people in your life are speaking from scripts, etc. Similar to the thing about "Z and S" giving her a script to follow, etc.....)
I do get the feeling that Casey has been convinced by her defense team that talking with her family will hurt her case, though, the whole thing of "the tapes will be released, they will be twisted and misconshtrued" etc.) I think bottom line they still want to prevent her from talking, even to her family.
snipped from SeaGull's post:
I've sometimes had the impression Baez assumed she might be guilty so questioned her very little and just kept her from talking, when in fact, she may not be guilty but just crazy, but not talking has certainly made her look guilty.
Agreed! KC is responsible for Caylee's death..but how did it happen? If it were an "accident that snowballed" and she had a different attorney, (not fame-seeking JB) we would certainly have a different situation. I am one who thinks KC is mentally ill. It always surprises me when I read here that people don't think she is. When you read the notes (if you can manage to get through them) one sees a child who isn't fully functioning. I maintain if KC weren't so above average looking this thing would be sorted out bim bam boom. Instead, she is being "used" for notoriety by all the key players (lawyers, media) and in the end she'll rot in prison with her compromised tooth and her memories of Fusion. Everyone will have lined their pockets some (except for her) and she'll become more and more crazy, like Diane Downs.
 
snipped from SeaGull's post:
I've sometimes had the impression Baez assumed she might be guilty so questioned her very little and just kept her from talking, when in fact, she may not be guilty but just crazy, but not talking has certainly made her look guilty.
Agreed! KC is responsible for Caylee's death..but how did it happen? If it were an "accident that snowballed" and she had a different attorney, (not fame-seeking JB) we would certainly have a different situation. I am one who thinks KC is mentally ill. It always surprises me when I read here that people don't think she is. When you read the notes (if you can manage to get through them) one sees a child who isn't fully functioning. I maintain if KC weren't so above average looking this thing would be sorted out bim bam boom. Instead, she is being "used" for notoriety by all the key players (lawyers, media) and in the end she'll rot in prison with her compromised tooth and her memories of Fusion. Everyone will have lined their pockets some (except for her) and she'll become more and more crazy, like Diane Downs.

I believe that in the beginning keeping the family away was part strategy and part KC's anger at her mother. I think that the defense may have thought that CA talked to the media too much and said the wrong things. She certainly kept things stirred up! But remember that KC did talk to LA some and she asked to speak with GA, but wanted it off camera. In early court hearings CA tried to make eye contact with KC, but KC refused. So I think early on it was part KC's anger and part strategy.

Since then the situation has changed. CA is staying off the media so much and not making as many controversial statements. GA has put money in KC's acct. Rumors say that the "family" is exchanging letters through the attorney. I think they have possibly 'made up', at least LA and GA. Not sure about CA. And I think they have just gotten used to the status quo. (Sort of like she has gone off somewhere for a fabulous job and they talk once a week.)

Could there be a rift between CA and KC? Yeah it is possible. It had to hurt a lot when KC was asking for GA but not for her, refusing eye contact in court and the angry statements she made in visits. If that continues into the video chats or whatever, then yes I think CA may have backed off or finally become angry. But that doesn't mean that GA and LA have backed off or distanced themselves. It is important to remember that "the family" is made up of 4 individuals who are all adults and can make individual choices.

As far as KC being mentally ill I strongly suspect it. If she wasn't ill when she allegedly killed Caylee (and somehow I don't think she was), then she suffered a psychotic break afterwards. I mean the whole Zanny the nanny story was so far fetched that no sane person would have used it (or at least not without doing more to come up with evidence to substantiate it.) I mean she sent herself emails from her "job" why not emails from her sitter? Why no discussions with friends about nanny issues? And let's face it. No HEALTHY person rides around with the dead, decomposing body of their child in their trunk!
 
Hmmm... Casey kills Cindy and Georges' beloved grandchild? Rift real IMO.
 
Hello WS :)

Some reasons for the "rift" per Casey's letters to Robyn. Thank you to the Websleuthers who read and posted these letters.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=100781&highlight=letters

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Here's where it gets good :-( Boo.

My Mom has been battling us on the service details, religiously (and without any consideration of my ideas or feelings on the matter). Her idiot attorney has been bashing Baez and my defense team for a couple weeks now, without reason, and my Mom has done nothing to stop it. We're the ones being made out to be careless, heartless and selfish, but we're the only ones playing by the rules and trying to avoid stepping on anyone's toes. Sadly, we're the true Shmucks in this for playing nicely. There are so many details I want to convey, but it almost seems tedius to keep on *****ing.
(skip)

Anyway, we try to formulate a plan to cover out butts from any more slander and to at least keep on with our pattern of nice-playing. I find out that my brother was acting according to scripts, via law enforcement, when he came to visit m,e back in July and August, and he was reporting back to them with whatever I told them. I told you about everything my Dad said during his interviews with LE. So two down, one to go.

Sunday morning – Baez and Linda come back to reupdate me on the Super Fun weekend, and have even more Fun details to share. My “sick” Mommy hitches.....
(skip)

Alright, so the drama with my folks is getting worse, and I mean that in several ways
#1 – their attorney is a power-hungry jerk, who is only looking to make himself relevant in my case, and my Mom is aiding him in that (bar complaints against Jose & wanting to raise $ for my defense, but they don't want my defense team knowing....) ; that's just the tip of the iceberg.
#2 – both of my parents are not working, still, and yet have the means to travel all over the country and don't feel that they have to explain where or why. Odd, right?
#3 – They are further from God than I have ever seen and it's evident by their daily actions- avoiding Jose, bad-mouthing my defense team, trying to manipulate me into saying and/or doing.....

P 13659
….any number of things. Blah. They show their “support” for the sake of the cameras, but when it comes to the “real story”, I'm alone, well, not alone. Bad choice of words. I have a non-existent relationship with two of the most important people in the world to me, and it's to the point where I don't even want to bother. Part of it is spiritual warfare, and I get that the best and only way to really get to my heart is through those in my heart.

...js...
 
GA seems to have abandoned his darling daughter...another hearing and he's not there..

I also did not see her look CA's way, or did she..

Anthony was able to mouth "I love you" to her mother after the hearing.
http://www.cfnews13.com/article/new...ws-defense-to-inspect-evidence,-but-not-alone

I don't know if this happened but only this paper is reporting that she did acknowledge her mother..

The rift is real as I've always thought of the love/hate relationship the woman have for each other...it shows, IMO....ICA has no use for her parents anymore...Waste, huge waste...JMHO


Justice for Caylee
 
bump for potential relevance and to revisit
 
Hello WS :)

Some reasons for the "rift" per Casey's letters to Robyn. Thank you to the Websleuthers who read and posted these letters.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=100781&highlight=letters

P13637
Here's where it gets good :-( Boo.

My Mom has been battling us on the service details, religiously (and without any consideration of my ideas or feelings on the matter). Her idiot attorney has been bashing Baez and my defense team for a couple weeks now, without reason, and my Mom has done nothing to stop it. We're the ones being made out to be careless, heartless and selfish, but we're the only ones playing by the rules and trying to avoid stepping on anyone's toes. Sadly, we're the true Shmucks in this for playing nicely. There are so many details I want to convey, but it almost seems tedius to keep on *****ing.
(skip)

Anyway, we try to formulate a plan to cover out butts from any more slander and to at least keep on with our pattern of nice-playing. I find out that my brother was acting according to scripts, via law enforcement, when he came to visit m,e back in July and August, and he was reporting back to them with whatever I told them. I told you about everything my Dad said during his interviews with LE. So two down, one to go.

Sunday morning – Baez and Linda come back to reupdate me on the Super Fun weekend, and have even more Fun details to share. My “sick” Mommy hitches.....
(skip)

Alright, so the drama with my folks is getting worse, and I mean that in several ways
#1 – their attorney is a power-hungry jerk, who is only looking to make himself relevant in my case, and my Mom is aiding him in that (bar complaints against Jose & wanting to raise $ for my defense, but they don't want my defense team knowing....) ; that's just the tip of the iceberg.
#2 – both of my parents are not working, still, and yet have the means to travel all over the country and don't feel that they have to explain where or why. Odd, right?
#3 – They are further from God than I have ever seen and it's evident by their daily actions- avoiding Jose, bad-mouthing my defense team, trying to manipulate me into saying and/or doing.....

P 13659
….any number of things. Blah.

They show their “support” for the sake of the cameras, but when it comes to the “real story”, I'm alone, well, not alone. Bad choice of words. I have a non-existent relationship with two of the most important people in the world to me, and it's to the point where I don't even want to bother.

Part of it is spiritual warfare, and I get that the best and only way to really get to my heart is through those in my heart.


...js...

Quoting my own post. And adding in snip from Dr. Glass today.

Casey is crying for herself because she knows it is over. Her one ally is gone. She threw George under the bus and now Cindy is leaving Casey’s bus. Casey is furious about it.

Why, why, why, did Cindy turn on her ? She is devastated and shocked by Cindy’s actions for the first time in her life. She cannot believe what Cindy “did to her.” She is taking the victim blame approach. She set out to hurt Cindy by taking Caylee and now it has backfired on her. Cindy has finally hurt her.


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