The Rumor Mill -- unsubstantiated, yet possible relevant information

DNA Solves
DNA Solves
DNA Solves
Status
Not open for further replies.
Correct me if I am wrong, but TKM said after review the call that MG claims was made to her from Hackett originated from Ellenville where MG lives. Maybe Shannon phone was spoofed to call 911 and when that happened she knew what was up and freaked out.
 
The 15 minute drug run

how about this folks?

it was to fluke you's house. hmmmmmmmmmm There ya go.

and as far as the lawsuit against CPH?

CPH did NOT call MARI about any wayward home for girls.
NOPE.
NO NO NO NO NO
Mark my words.
read my lips

HE DID NOT CALL MARI.

When you show me Barbara Hackett's phone bill that she called Mari
or a call was made from her cellphone to Mari....then I'll believe you

Until then

tick tock tick tock

this case is about to EXPLODE from the rafters.
JUST WATCh. tick tock

a ticking time bomb

BOOM

Can you please just clarify your above statement .

Are you saying these things as facts that you know? Backed up with evidence that you can disclose and share.

Or is this simply a theory you have and are expressing it ....??
 
Can you please just clarify your above statement .

Are you saying these things as facts that you know? Backed up with evidence that you can disclose and share.

Or is this simply a theory you have and are expressing it ....??
Its being stated as a fact. Sounds to me like somebody is in trouble.
 
That would also mean she knew the area well and had prior dealings with this area and these men to know who they were and have their phone numbers.
 
Its being stated as a fact. Sounds to me like somebody is in trouble.

Seriously?

Are you sure dee... so how has it been prooven that Brewer and Shannan drove to Scalise's to get drugs that night...
Thats one mighty claim .....
 
Great story! I don't think that I realized that Shannon was found facing upward. I cannot imagine that someone who had drowned or died of exposure would be facing upward. Has that fact been mentioned elsewhere? If that is the case, I may have to adjust my opinion of her case. I have come to believe that her death was a tragic accident.


She entered the marsh/bramble near low tide. Would have drowned, even face up, at high tide.

The schedule of tides that night/morning are one of the slides we posted.
 
Seriously?

Are you sure dee... so how has it been prooven that Brewer and Shannan drove to Scalise's to get drugs that night...
Thats one mighty claim .....
We dont have the inside. Hopefully we will soon.
 
If the call originated from Ellenville, then it was Mari who spoofed the call. Wow...

Thats quite a leap....no it doesn't mean that at all....considering Ellenville has a population of more than one....and if spoofing was involved...who knows if the calls was made through some kinda computer proxy...or even if the killer was parked outside mari's home and watching her as he called from outside!
 
She entered the marsh/bramble near low tide. Would have drowned, even face up, at high tide.

The schedule of tides that night/morning are one of the slides we posted.


Yeah right, and Hackett called SCPD to have the helicopters search for Shannan cuz you read that
Hackett told Alex that.

bwahhhhhhh hahahahahahaha

Hackett NEVER called ScPD to have helicopters search OB for Shannan.

DONT take KOLKER'S LOST GIRLS book as the bible on this case.
He got a lot of stuff WRONG.

Im in the book, are you?
 
I don't think the fact that a person would have drowned face up or down in the high tide
if incapacitated is really debatable.
Could you share what else Kolker got wrong? It would be a great help. Thanks!

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N910A using Tapatalk
 
Thats quite a leap....no it doesn't mean that at all....considering Ellenville has a population of more than one....and if spoofing was involved...who knows if the calls was made through some kinda computer proxy...or even if the killer was parked outside mari's home and watching her as he called from outside!
Is this the kind of person that would put dolls on a cross???
 
yeah right, and hackett called scpd to have the helicopters search for shannan cuz you read that
hackett told alex that.

Bwahhhhhhh hahahahahahaha

hackett never called scpd to have helicopters search ob for shannan.

Dont take kolker's lost girls book as the bible on this case.
He got a lot of stuff wrong.

Im in the book, are you?

dph ....... ??

Mmmmm seems there is a tide of change in tone on the forum ...... maybe there is real pressure behind the scenes.....

Wouldn't that be a nice change.....for somerhing to actually be happening.
 
I don't think the fact that a person would have drowned face up or down in the high tide
if incapacitated is really debatable.
Could you share what else Kolker got wrong? It would be a great help. Thanks!

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N910A using Tapatalk

SearchingMike you could be right or wrong...truth is none of us know for certain.....its just all opinions at this stage
Until someone can find some solid evidence.

And great question BTW ..... I d like to know what Kolker supposedly got wrong too......
 
I don't think the fact that a person would have drowned face up or down in the high tide
if incapacitated is really debatable.
Could you share what else Kolker got wrong? It would be a great help. Thanks!

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N910A using Tapatalk

What Kolker had wrong in the book, and what I brought attention to
him
has been ironed out and I helped him get educated on some matters
of which he had NO CLUE
and he was on pressers saying this and saying that

and he could not have been further away from truth.

He knows now and that's all that matters.
 
Something occured to me. Did the person who started the rumors about what Hackett supposedly said do the spoofing? Or did someone else ( an opportunist) who heard the rumors do it? I have faith that JR will unravel this.
 
The tides are the tides, Mockingbird. Not subject to opinion. At high tide, the water would have been high enough to drown someone that was face up. I'm NOT saying I know what happened; I'm saying that SG being face up does not PRECLUDE drowning and should not be regarded as doing so. And she could have died face down and animals and/or the tide flipped her over as Dr. Tumosa said. She was out there for a very long time.

With respect to the helicopter search I fact checked it with Kolker. This was his response awhile back. The source for the helicopter story was Diaz himself.. And we are not talking a high tech helicopter with high resolution search capability. My guess would be it was a traffic helicopter or the likes. We are NOT talking FBI Black Hawks. I don't see why this is so contentious.

Lost Girls is a great piece of true crime writing - up there with In Cold Blood imho but it's not a bible and we didn't treat it as such.

And I am not in it, thank God.

"As readers of "Lost Girls" know, Hackett asserts that police used a helicopter to search for Shannan a few days after she disappeared. He is the only source explicitly referenced in the book. I know that a lot of people closely watching this case don't believe this is true. While I wasn't there myself and can't say for sure if it is true, I can say that for what it's worth, two other people say it happened, too.


1) Shannan's boyfriend Alex Diaz told me about it in a personal interview: "They [police] came like an hour later [after his first encounter with Hackett at Oak Beach], they even had a helicopter flying around the whole area. And they didn’t find nothing that day. I was shocked. I don’t know how they didn’t find her."


Now, maybe his memory is off, or maybe he is just repeating something that was just told to him by somebody at some point. But this is what he said.


2) Commissioner Richard Dormer told me the same thing: "I believe the helicopter flew over within a couple of days of her being missing. And that was very difficult, to see anything in that area. As I mentioned, everything in that area was in full bloom. It was just another tool that we could utilize just in case she was lying out there in the open."


His version is interesting to me, because it shows him both trying to demonstrate that the police were doing their job and trying to explain why they failed to find her. Convenient, maybe, but nevertheless, this is what he said." - Bob Kolker


 
I would like to know how someone can get helicopters in the air and dogs on the ground without a missing persons report? SCPD said Jersey did not forward it to them until Aug. Shanan went missing in May.
 
What Kolker had wrong in the book, and what I brought attention to
him
has been ironed out and I helped him get educated on some matters
of which he had NO CLUE
and he was on pressers saying this and saying that

and he could not have been further away from truth.

He knows now and that's all that matters.

Why are you being so vague with your responses. ....why the grandstanding about being in a book ......then stating the book is so flawed.....if we knew who you were in the book we might be able to sleuth that your contribution was the flawed bit....but alas...we dont know and only have your written word to go by.........I hope Rachel and Josh are all over this..

This thread is about murdered victims...and I am sorry if this post offends you .....but all I have witnessed in the last week is a profile.....a username sprouting this and that, claiming some close association to the family of the Gilberts.....with nothing....no evidence...no links...nothing to show any real association at all to the Gilberts.........making highly speculative claims of phone spoofing and the like....

Almost teasing posters with information without links.......posters that have been here for years.....I hardly think that is fair

I am in total shock as to what has happened to Mari...she is real...was real...along with Shannan...and the others...their not part of some game..

.and then this. .....I don't mind saying this either....these are real people .....not a game....not a platform for grandstanding to have your 5 seconds of fame.

Some of us have been here for years on this case...... either you put out and provide links....or you stop antagonizing members by stating facts without evidence......
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Members online

Online statistics

Members online
135
Guests online
219
Total visitors
354

Forum statistics

Threads
608,932
Messages
18,247,779
Members
234,507
Latest member
AetherOmega
Back
Top