The SODDI Defense (Some Other Dude Did It)...If not KC, who?

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Well there ya go! That'll teach me not to read the first post of a thread.:) Thank you so much MissJames for trying to bring this thread back to the topic in which it was intended.:blowkiss:
Maybe it's just me, but I always feel uncomfortable if I think there might be info being put out there that could "help the defense".
Especially with this case.
I wouldn't worry. I don't think the defense team is smart enoguh to read this thread. Ego, you know. This case is so full of people with inflated egos (who don't merit them) imo
 
I Have a lot of faith in dogs. They have no ax to grind with one side or the other. They work hard and do good work. They may not be 100% accurate, but they can lead you in the right direction.

I remember when the best cancer sniffer (now deceased) alerted to a melanotic lesion on the leg of the guy who came to evaluate his performance! Surprised the crap outta the guy, and prolly saved his life!

That dog contradicted a pathologist on a lesion, THREE times! Guess who turned out to be right (third biopsy). :)

Then, there are the seizure dogs.....

I'm very impressed with the beasties. :)
 
I wouldn't worry. I don't think the defense team is smart enoguh to read this thread. Ego, you know. This case is so full of people with inflated egos (who don't merit them) imo

The two so often go together.
 
Again, my comment was taken out of context. I simply meant since being arrested and hiring JB Casey has not lied to LE because she has not talked to them.
Does the time she said that she was willing to talk to LE (shortly after the indictment), but didn't, count? And yes...JB probably shut her up then, too...but she said she was willing...and didn't. Personally, I think she was playing with 'em even then.
 
I really feel that the only other SODDI who could have killed Sweet Baby Caylee would be Cindy----maybe accident---but I think she is the only one the defense could use. I can see it coming. Wonder if GA saw KC the night of the 15th.

Fersure---if they don't go that way then they will pull all the abuse from that home and put it on the table for the world to see. See how long CA's new foundation would last if the defense tells all---all they have to do is have KC spin her lies with a few miss truths. There are witnesses who have heard CA call KC names---lair/thief/psycho. Nobody will donate to a foundation where the President is a child abuser.

I have a feeling CA better get herself a better lawyer then the one she has now. At this point---it would be in CA's best interest to start keeping a low profile until this mess is over.
 
KC wanted to leave her car at Amscott on purpose. Her purse and wallet were left in her car so she clearly wanted it stolen. You don't just accidentally run out of gas, leave your car somewhere, and then forget your belongings. There was plenty of time while she was waiting for TL to pick her up that she would have noticed her purse was missing. Also, this makes the fact that someone broke into her car very unlikely because her stuff would have most likely been taken as well. If someone is gonna break into a car to plant a body in there, they clearly don't have the morals to not steal someone's wallet.
 
I really feel that the only other SODDI who could have killed Sweet Baby Caylee would be Cindy----maybe accident---but I think she is the only one the defense could use. I can see it coming. Wonder if GA saw KC the night of the 15th.

Fersure---if they don't go that way then they will pull all the abuse from that home and put it on the table for the world to see. See how long CA's new foundation would last if the defense tells all---all they have to do is have KC spin her lies with a few miss truths. There are witnesses who have heard CA call KC names---lair/thief/psycho. Nobody will donate to a foundation where the President is a child abuser.

I have a feeling CA better get herself a better lawyer then the one she has now. At this point---it would be in CA's best interest to start keeping a low profile until this mess is over.

Yes, MamaB, I believe you are right on. It won't matter what is alleged by JB as to any other Anthony's guilt, as they are not on trial themselves. So he can allege away. But how will Cindy like hearing that she may have been the one who did it? Not in a million years do I believe she had a hand in it, but it would really be a low blow for Baez to use that tactic to get KC off. But I firmly believe that we would go there. And sadly, that KC would let him.
 
What 'mis-statements' are you referring to? I don't personally believe anyone else is involved in Caylee's death but from what I've read, AquarianEssence is simply stating her thoughts on, and interpretations of, the evidence that is available to us all, and where she's made reference to any other sources of information she's quoted that source.

I agree with her that the released evidence contains some inconsistencies/inaccuracies/omissions etc and that there are various ways in which much of it can be interpreted. On the whole it has raised more questions for me than it has answered, and IMO the entire case is crazy so anything is possible!

Why is it that when someone posts alternative theories they are accused of having links to the defence? I've had the same accusations thrown at me, even though I am thousands of miles away in the UK, a British citizen and of no possible use to the defence! We are all entitled to our own opinions and have the right to express them without ridicule.

I also don't think AQ needs to constantly provide links to information she quotes from discovery that is available to us all and some of her comments are clearly her own opinion and therefore there are no links. Posters refer to information from the discovery all the time but are not asked to provide links. The currently available facts are out there for us all to read, interpret and ponder - it's the way we interpret those facts that gives rise to differences of opinion and while I have my own preferred interpretations of some of that information I find it very useful to consider another's perspective.


Thank you, Devon. ITA with you. While I, too, have come to believe that KC is most likely responsible for Caylee’s death, it is very disheartening to see the negative reaction that often follows when someone, like AquarianEssence and others, espouses different conclusions/opinion based on their analysis of the evidence/facts. She’s obviously put alot of work into analyzing the documents (I mean, how many people take the trouble to write a letter to someone working/studying in anthropology for an opinion?). I find her posts interesting simply because they DO have a different take on things.

As you point out, there ARE some mistakes/discrepancies in the documents. For someone to make note of that does not equal criticizing LE, and I noticed she has stated several times that is not her intent. LE is no more infallible than any of the rest of us.

For a long time I was not convinced of KC’s guilt. That’s not to say I didn’t suspect her at all. This was based mainly on an experience in my life where I was accused of something I didn’t do. The charges were eventually dropped, but for years people condemned me anyway and it was horrible. The truth came out about 12 years later. Because of that experience, I know how it feels to have all the circumstantial evidence point to you and yet be innocent. (And, indeed, we know that innocent people are convicted occasionally-thanks to DNA testing, some of them are being set free).

Because of what happened to me, I have always been slow to believe someone is guilty and I been slow to believe it of KC. And, as in your case, when I have questioned things or expressed opinions that were not commonly held, my posts often met with negative reactions and it was even inferred that I was working for the defense!

As this is a forum of (self proclaimed – lol ) amateur detectives, researchers, truth-seekers, I would hope there would be differences of opinion. Something would be wrong if there wasn’t IMO.

Anyway, off my soap box now. (Actually, I would really like to write about my experience, as I feel it would be enlightening to people on several levels, but I’m not sure where it would be appropriate-maybe the parking lot? I never go there so I’m not sure)
 
KC wanted to leave her car at Amscott on purpose. Her purse and wallet were left in her car so she clearly wanted it stolen. You don't just accidentally run out of gas, leave your car somewhere, and then forget your belongings. There was plenty of time while she was waiting for TL to pick her up that she would have noticed her purse was missing. Also, this makes the fact that someone broke into her car very unlikely because her stuff would have most likely been taken as well. If someone is gonna break into a car to plant a body in there, they clearly don't have the morals to not steal someone's wallet.

(above bolding by me)

Not is they were trying to frame someone. KWIM?
 
Although LKB alluded to a SODDI defense some time ago when she mentioned the Sam Shepherd case, I think they switched gears and decided to attack LE and the forensic science in this case. Look at the people the defense have deposed. It's quite evident they haven't deposed any of the key players yet. UNLESS they are going to insinuate that Caylee's body was not on Suburban when it was searched prior to the discovery on December 11, so far their actions tell me they will not go the SODDI route. HOWEVER, now that ALy is on board, this could all change.

OMG, I can see tons of motions flying into court from this new attorney. I think prosecutors will be kept pretty busy just responding to them. :bang:

It will be interesting to see which road ALy will take, if given the chance. I do think CA will play a role in this case (i.e., what drove KC to commit this horrendous murder). I say that only as a possible defense that ALy might try to put before the jury.

JMO
 
I missed Spectre - is that how she really works - that's incredible. Particularly since anything the lawyer says in court is not to be taken as truth. They are not under oath.
It's the way LKB questions the State's experts and the people she puts on to refute the scientific evidence. In the PS case she used her own husband .Now that was dumb.
 
Thank you, Devon. ITA with you. While I, too, have come to believe that KC is most likely responsible for Caylee’s death, it is very disheartening to see the negative reaction that often follows when someone, like AquarianEssence and others, espouses different conclusions/opinion based on their analysis of the evidence/facts. She’s obviously put alot of work into analyzing the documents (I mean, how many people take the trouble to write a letter to someone working/studying in anthropology for an opinion?). I find her posts interesting simply because they DO have a different take on things.

As you point out, there ARE some mistakes/discrepancies in the documents. For someone to make note of that does not equal criticizing LE, and I noticed she has stated several times that is not her intent. LE is no more infallible than any of the rest of us.

For a long time I was not convinced of KC’s guilt. That’s not to say I didn’t suspect her at all. This was based mainly on an experience in my life where I was accused of something I didn’t do. The charges were eventually dropped, but for years people condemned me anyway and it was horrible. The truth came out about 12 years later. Because of that experience, I know how it feels to have all the circumstantial evidence point to you and yet be innocent. (And, indeed, we know that innocent people are convicted occasionally-thanks to DNA testing, some of them are being set free).

Because of what happened to me, I have always been slow to believe someone is guilty and I been slow to believe it of KC. And, as in your case, when I have questioned things or expressed opinions that were not commonly held, my posts often met with negative reactions and it was even inferred that I was working for the defense!

As this is a forum of (self proclaimed – lol ) amateur detectives, researchers, truth-seekers, I would hope there would be differences of opinion. Something would be wrong if there wasn’t IMO.

Anyway, off my soap box now. (Actually, I would really like to write about my experience, as I feel it would be enlightening to people on several levels, but I’m not sure where it would be appropriate-maybe the parking lot? I never go there so I’m not sure)

For myself,I see it as debate,not attacks. I don't want KC to get away with this.It scares me ,a bit ,to think she could get off when there is so much evidence pointing to her.
Then I remember it would take convincing 12 people to aquit and I just don't believe that will happen.One or two will be a hung jury.KC will go back to jail and be retried if that happens.
This particular thread has gone on for a long time.I believe it's because of the great back and forth debates on here.Beats arguing with my 9 year old:dance:
 
Because of what happened to me, I have always been slow to believe someone is guilty and I been slow to believe it of KC. )

Snipped for space:

Carrie, we all bring personal life experiences into our thinking as well as our posts. The differences is, and I am not saying it is going on here, is that some people have an agenda with their arguments and opinions because of a life experience, whether good or bad when engaged in any discussion, at any time, in any place setting.

Over my years I have had my share of difficulties, trials and tribulations of being a parent and an individual. And yet I try to view this case as if I was on the jury, keeping my personal experiences in check while viewing the current evidence. I try to, sometimes not succeeding well, to understand others thinking.

We all want justice for Caylee. That is why I am here. If LE has done something wrong, which I don't think they have, it will be exposed sooner or later. I have faith that they are doing their tasks and are not making or creating errors to bolster their case against KC.

Perhaps a thread should be started where posters who do believe KC is being railroaded post there.
 
Thank you, Devon. ITA with you. While I, too, have come to believe that KC is most likely responsible for Caylee’s death, it is very disheartening to see the negative reaction that often follows when someone, like AquarianEssence and others, espouses different conclusions/opinion based on their analysis of the evidence/facts. She’s obviously put alot of work into analyzing the documents (I mean, how many people take the trouble to write a letter to someone working/studying in anthropology for an opinion?). I find her posts interesting simply because they DO have a different take on things.

As you point out, there ARE some mistakes/discrepancies in the documents. For someone to make note of that does not equal criticizing LE, and I noticed she has stated several times that is not her intent. LE is no more infallible than any of the rest of us.

For a long time I was not convinced of KC’s guilt. That’s not to say I didn’t suspect her at all. This was based mainly on an experience in my life where I was accused of something I didn’t do. The charges were eventually dropped, but for years people condemned me anyway and it was horrible. The truth came out about 12 years later. Because of that experience, I know how it feels to have all the circumstantial evidence point to you and yet be innocent. (And, indeed, we know that innocent people are convicted occasionally-thanks to DNA testing, some of them are being set free).

Because of what happened to me, I have always been slow to believe someone is guilty and I been slow to believe it of KC. And, as in your case, when I have questioned things or expressed opinions that were not commonly held, my posts often met with negative reactions and it was even inferred that I was working for the defense!

As this is a forum of (self proclaimed – lol ) amateur detectives, researchers, truth-seekers, I would hope there would be differences of opinion. Something would be wrong if there wasn’t IMO.

Anyway, off my soap box now. (Actually, I would really like to write about my experience, as I feel it would be enlightening to people on several levels, but I’m not sure where it would be appropriate-maybe the parking lot? I never go there so I’m not sure)

:blowkiss:

Thank you carrie for illustrating so perfectly by reference to your own experience that things are not always as they seem, and therefore why, if one is truly interested in real Justice being served, it's vital to keep an open mind and to question everything we learn. This girl is at risk of losing her freedom for the rest of her life, and may even be sentenced to death. IMO, true justice demands that she be punished only in accordance with the actual crime she committed, and that if the truth is that she did not actually deliberately kill Caylee, but is nevertheless found guilty on that charge, then that would not be justice for her, nor would it be justice for Caylee!

For myself,I see it as debate,not attacks. I don't want KC to get away with this.It scares me ,a bit ,to think she could get off when there is so much evidence pointing to her.
Then I remember it would take convincing 12 people to aquit and I just don't believe that will happen.One or two will be a hung jury.KC will go back to jail and be retried if that happens.
This particular thread has gone on for a long time.I believe it's because of the great back and forth debates on here.Beats arguing with my 9 year old:dance:

Bolded by me.

There have been posts both here and on other threads that were clearly not simply 'debate', such as suggestions that some posters must be working for the defence, and even remarks like 'I hope you're being paid well for it'! Honest debate is good - petty sniping gets us nowhere.

As to the part of your post I bolded, the real question for me is not 'if not KC then who?', but rather what is the 'IT' that KC is guilty of? You say that you are scared that she may 'get away with this', and that so much evidence points to her, but what, in your opinion and as supported by that evidence, is the 'this' that she should not get away with?
 
KC wanted to leave her car at Amscott on purpose. Her purse and wallet were left in her car so she clearly wanted it stolen. You don't just accidentally run out of gas, leave your car somewhere, and then forget your belongings. There was plenty of time while she was waiting for TL to pick her up that she would have noticed her purse was missing. Also, this makes the fact that someone broke into her car very unlikely because her stuff would have most likely been taken as well. If someone is gonna break into a car to plant a body in there, they clearly don't have the morals to not steal someone's wallet.

I don't think her wallet and purse were left in the car. I believe her purse was among the belongings that LA picked up from TL's apartment the night that the police were called.
 
That's still a far cry from Cindy's claims that JG has keys to Casey's car. Oh, yes, and Zenaida had keys to the house. Does ANYONE see Cindy being OK with a stranger having a key to her house? I sure don't.

Most cars come with 2 sets of keys. Car keys are now more elaborate than they were in the past, so you can get additional ones if you order from the dealership, but they are quite expensive. Knowing the Anthony's financial situation and that this is was a used car when Lee bought it in the first place, I'm not convinced that they would have gone to the expense of having additional keys made to this car. It would be interesting to know if Cindy's allegation was true or not.

As far as the house keys go, Casey isn't the most honest person we've seen, so I wouldn't put it past her to have additional door keys made and hand them out to other people without her mother's knowledge. Not saying she did it, I don't know. It would be interesting to know if Casey's allegation was true or not.
 
If you are talking about the day she borrowed the shovel, that was June 18th and probably too early for the scenario you are imagining. I'm not sure if she was noticed backing into the garage any other time in the next 9 days.

Actually, I'm wondering if it would place Caylee's time of death on the evening of the 15th.
 
KC wanted to leave her car at Amscott on purpose. Her purse and wallet were left in her car so she clearly wanted it stolen. You don't just accidentally run out of gas, leave your car somewhere, and then forget your belongings. There was plenty of time while she was waiting for TL to pick her up that she would have noticed her purse was missing. Also, this makes the fact that someone broke into her car very unlikely because her stuff would have most likely been taken as well. If someone is gonna break into a car to plant a body in there, they clearly don't have the morals to not steal someone's wallet.

You are mistaken, Casey's wallet was NOT in the purse left in the car, it was found at TL's apartment with her things when Lee went to get them the night of July 15.

The car was completely out of gas, so it would have been impossible to steal. Casey also contacted 2 people to try to get gasoline. So I'm not 100% convinced that she didn't want to get the car back. Yes, it might have been she was trying to plant evidence with the 2 she contacted to get gas from. It's very hard to know for sure what was going on there. But I am reasonably certain she didn't want the car to be stolen because she left is locked and totally out of gas.
 
What evidence points to a different murderer other than Casey?
Before I present my findings about the information that exists as to at least one other person that may be involved, a little background.

The information comes from something known as Reverse Speech. Which is messages from our unconscious mind embedded backward into speech. This communication in reverse, is received perfectly by our unconscious mind. Electroencephalograph (EEG) tests have shown that brain activity alters significantly when Reverse Speech occurs. Speech reversals can be found in any language.The uncovering of this embedded information, amongst the gibberish in reverse, can and does reveal the true beliefs, thoughts, and knowledge of one’s communication.

Speech reversals will add to information left out in forward speech, and negate forward speech with the truth if a lie is told. A speech reversal can occur even if someone is talking about one subject, but thinking of another.

I believe I have more than 60 reversals from Casey. As well as some examples of reverse speech from Cindy, Lee, Caylee, and Jesse Grund.

The following are the reverse speech examples from Casey, among other things, that suggest someone else may be involved:

(Investigator: I would have called the police immediately, and that's the part that I just don't understand.)
I didn't know what to do. (Crosstalk) (Investigator: We could, we got so many resources...)
Reason is the boy. (Crosstalk) (Investigator reversal: "Don't see a reason. What's the deal?")

If she was with her family right now she'd be in the best place.
When I give you my proof, they'll do sh**.
{"They" - seems to be obvious that there may be more than one other person she is afraid of.}

You don't know what my involvement is and stuff?
Must see the involvement. I'm the one choice.
{Casey seems to be very upset that she is going to be the obvious choice to be investigated. If she the one, or perhaps the only one involved, why would she be so upset?}

Waste my call sitting in oh, the the jail.
Boys did this. Warned me against the law help you. (Partial cross talk with Cindy Anthony)
{Seems to be clear she is stating not only "boy" but plural. More than one other male involved? And she has been warned not to go to police. People ask why didn't she call 911? Perhaps this is the reason. If the scenario could exist that she witnessed her daughter’s murder, Casey already knows what this person(s) is capable of, maybe self preservation of herself and her family is now what she believed to be the right choice of action by now contacting police. She had stated in the police interview "I didn't know what to do".}

It' was just that every single thing...
No one hear what necessary. (Cross talk with Lee Anthony)
{Does this reversal mean there is more going on that needs to be told?}

Because he's my boyfriend and I would actually try to sit and talk to him.
They are still scared when they're not guilty...
{Reversals are known to occur in the third person. Since she is referencing her boyfriend in the forward speech, could "they" be referring to Casey and him, or does someone else know what happened?}

...because I got arrested on a...
...in all the terror.
{An indicator she is afraid?}

Sweetheart if I...
I'm helping guard you. (cross talking)
{Does Casey not want to tell her friend what happened believing it will protect her friend?}

I will call you tomorrow. I want to talk to him really quick now. I don't want to close minds....
Just to show that I'm the killer. Then it goes to nowhere.
{This reversal is from her call from jail on 7-16-08. It appears to reveal a couple of things. First she references "the killer" this would seem to indicate that Caylee is dead and she knows it. Remember, all the public knows at this point is Caylee is missing. The second thing is, she is not willing to have a discussion if it revolves around Casey as being "the killer". If the conversation will lead "to nowhere" then it is futile to have it be about Casey.}


I was with them all day today.
Had to stay low.
{Is she afraid to be seen with the police?}

(Cindy - "Jose said that you said everything would make sense once we found Caylee.")
Well yeah. Once you have someone that you can talk to that you can get real explanation from that, notes, knows where she's been...
Be sure no one's been with Mark Meschino (sp)
{This conversation occurs on 7-25-08, 9 days later, she seems to be concerned that no one has contacted a certain person. It seems she is revealing a name. In my opinion it sounds like a persons name. Could it be an alias that someone is using, but that is the name she knows? From what I understand Casey's whereabouts at all times have not been confirmed. Could she have been leading some type of double life where she got herself, and her daughter into a bad situation?}

(Question: Is there anybody else that knew you were searching for Caylee?)
Outside of them no.
I'm not the despot.

(Question from Lee: I'm just curious if anything has changed as far as who I can trust and those type of things?)
As far as I'm concerned here, I don't really know on that level.
Hold out on that *advertiser censored* dealer.
{This conversation is on 7-26-08, 1 day after talking with her parents, and revealing a name. Could this be "Mark Meschino" sp?}

I guess understandably just...
Just kill. The nature in that fa****.
{Another indicator early on that Caylee may be dead, and at the hands of this person?}

...being out of contact but...
That guy not what I need.

The opportunity was there that I probably could've helped. I'm trying. I was trying. There's, there's nothing more that I can say or do until I'm home.
My wish that we agree to sneak out of the home. If unobserved I'll show ya.
{First, notice what she is saying in forward speech. Casey's reverse speech seems to be indicating that if given the chance she would show her parents where Caylee was. If she was the one that killed her daughter, why would she want to do that?}

(Casey is commenting on the media.)
...I'll do whatever the hell I have to, to get my family back together.
Wish the he** I had a way to respond.
{This conversation with her parents took place on 8-14-08. People may say if she was afraid to go to police before, she's now in jail, what could she be afraid of? My opinion from this statement is on one hand she seems to be emphatic that she wants her family back together, but at the same time her reversal seems to indicate she still doesn't know how to do it.}
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Side note: In one of the released audios with Casey and her parents. Casey is talking with her mother about one of her visits where she was only allowed one visitor. She chose her father, and went into detail why she chose him. During her initial call from jail on 7-16-08 she is indicating, by a reversal, then she wanted to talk with her father when she said "Bring in my father.". In the end that is what happened, she met with her father. I believe this is a simple example of the validity, and accuracy of reverse speech. If this reversal is accurate, how about all the others? If she were given the chance to have talked with her father sooner, could this case have evolved differently?
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In another reversal from Casey she says "Not this guilty." Does this mean she is professing innocence? Perhaps. Perhaps not. When you factor in other reversals "I'm not the despot.,and Just to show that I'm the killer. Then it goes to nowhere. , Reason is the boy. , Boys did this. ,it doesn't seem to me she is "the one" who killed her daughter. Perhaps she had a hand in it, or maybe she feels some responsibility for her daughter's death, I don't know. What is certain to me is that there is not one speech reversal of Casey that I have found where she is indicating direct involvement. She does not reveal any motives of any nature either. By all accounts she was known to be a good mother to her daughter. What Casey does seem to be indicating several times is - someone else is involved.

That's my two cents with the evidence presented that it is quite possible, and even probable, that SODDI.
 
Thank you, Devon. ITA with you. While I, too, have come to believe that KC is most likely responsible for Caylee’s death, it is very disheartening to see the negative reaction that often follows when someone, like AquarianEssence and others, espouses different conclusions/opinion based on their analysis of the evidence/facts. She’s obviously put alot of work into analyzing the documents (I mean, how many people take the trouble to write a letter to someone working/studying in anthropology for an opinion?). I find her posts interesting simply because they DO have a different take on things.

As you point out, there ARE some mistakes/discrepancies in the documents. For someone to make note of that does not equal criticizing LE, and I noticed she has stated several times that is not her intent. LE is no more infallible than any of the rest of us.

For a long time I was not convinced of KC’s guilt. That’s not to say I didn’t suspect her at all. This was based mainly on an experience in my life where I was accused of something I didn’t do. The charges were eventually dropped, but for years people condemned me anyway and it was horrible. The truth came out about 12 years later. Because of that experience, I know how it feels to have all the circumstantial evidence point to you and yet be innocent. (And, indeed, we know that innocent people are convicted occasionally-thanks to DNA testing, some of them are being set free).

Because of what happened to me, I have always been slow to believe someone is guilty and I been slow to believe it of KC. And, as in your case, when I have questioned things or expressed opinions that were not commonly held, my posts often met with negative reactions and it was even inferred that I was working for the defense!

As this is a forum of (self proclaimed – lol ) amateur detectives, researchers, truth-seekers, I would hope there would be differences of opinion. Something would be wrong if there wasn’t IMO.

Anyway, off my soap box now. (Actually, I would really like to write about my experience, as I feel it would be enlightening to people on several levels, but I’m not sure where it would be appropriate-maybe the parking lot? I never go there so I’m not sure)

Thank you much for what you have said. As a long-time member of Websleuths I, too, have been disheartened by the negative reaction I've seen here. In the past, Websleuths has always been a safe place where people could express their opinions regardless of if they were pro or con without being beaten up for it. The purpose of Websleuths has ALWAYS been to seek justice for the victims of crime. From experience, I know that almost anyone here may turn out to be the person who can help solve a crime. We have many, many heroic members here. But if members are bullied, harrassed or falsely accused by other members and leave Websleuths because of it, then this site is so much the poorer for it and crimes these members might have helped with may go unsolved.

There should be differences of opinion here. There should be lively debate and discussion. But the negative reaction needs to be replaced with respectful consideration of each member's opinion. I honestly believe that every single person who has joined Websleuths is here for the same reason: to seek justice for the victims. So I want to ask all members, BEFORE YOU POST, please reread and edit yourself. Ask yourself if what you wrote is kind and most of all, if it is worthy of the heroic members of Websleuths.
 
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