One other question about the Talent Show ; where was it to have been held ? In the gym ? But, weren't there IB Science Fair exhibits already in the gym ? So, how could an audience of kids,staff and parents have also been in the gym ?
All JMO
The scheduled bus stop for the current year at the Horman house is 3:31. Maybe that is closer to the time the bus would stopped on June 4th if changes were made to the route during the course of the 09-10 school year.
ETA - sorry o/t. the bus stop was mentioned up thread and there was mention of getting to the stop about 10 minutes late and I just wanted to mention that the stop time may have changed.
Maybe some of the parents already took their child's exhibit home in the morning like Terri intended to do?
And if the rest of them look like Kyron's it would be a quick job to move them out of the way for the talent show IMO.
From my experience with 2 kids in elementary, the talent show would have been put on twice - once for the children/teachers during the school day and once in the evening for the parents. Sometimes that occurred on the same day and sometimes it didn't.
From my experience with 2 kids in elementary, the talent show would have been put on twice - once for the children/teachers during the school day and once in the evening for the parents. Sometimes that occurred on the same day and sometimes it didn't.
Well, if it makes you feel any better (it might actually make you feel worse) I'm not sure if the children in the school bus would have been treated any different if one of them had gone missing between 8:30 and 8:45. Unless there was a procedure for checking up the names of the children entering and exiting the school bus and the children showing up for the chaperoned tours at 8:45 or unless the teacher was there to meet the bus and took special notice of the child who was to disappear I think any of them might just have been marked absent as well, and no phone call would have ensued.
If there is such a check up list of the school bus kids and the teachers use it it might be different but is there?
ETA: I do believe that even if the official roll call was at 10 the adults would have been aware of who was there and who wasn't, when organizing the groups.
Do you think that the teacher lies and Kyron actually vanished after having gone to the classroom and having been her responsibility or just that she lies about Terri mentioning a doctor's appointment?
Terri mentions the appointment confusion in her email on June 5th and at that point the police hadn't yet heard about some of her shenanigans that made her less than credible. I'm not sure why they would automatically have taken the teacher's word over hers in the beginning.
Edit: Sorry Kimster, what's the correct thread to continue this discussion?
And Kyron would not have been able to attend that, if that had been in place, since he was expected to travel down to spend the weekend with Desiree.
I have to keep asking about the children who arrived on buses approx 8:30. The final bell was at 8:45. The science fair activities were from 8 till 10.
Based on that, what time did school start for the children who arrived on buses? Were they on their own from 8:30 until 10? Anyone could have taken any one of them out of the school during that time without checking out at the office?
I just can't make this make sense to me.
In my experience schools and daycares almost never schedule any evening events on Friday nights because lots of people have something else to do on weekends.
One other question about the Talent Show ; where was it to have been held ? In the gym ? But, weren't there IB Science Fair exhibits already in the gym ? So, how could an audience of kids,staff and parents have also been in the gym ?
All JMO
Just a guess and based on the schools in my area: talent shows are usually in the cafeteria. Many times there's a stage in the cafeteria. further bolstering this guess: The talent show was slated to start at 1 pm ... which, to me, would have have been right after lunch, with most of the kids already in the cafeteria. My guess only.
Skyline has a cafegymatorium!!!!!
Skyline has a cafegymatorium!!!!!
Obviously, school buses don't discharge their little passengers exactly one minute before the bell or one minute after the bell rings. The buses come in, kids get off, there's time before classes.
IMHO, once those kids set foot on the school grounds, the school is responsible for them. To dance on the head of a pin saying that the school isn't responsible until the bell rings, and school "officially starts" just doesn't make any sense to me. JMO
And, the science fair was a school activity. They even had volunteers there. So, again, logically, the school assumes responsibility for the children who are there--regardless if it's 15 seconds before the bell rings, or an hour before the bell rings.
As to the matter of liability, here's a reasonable benchmark: if someone falls down and gets hurt on the school grounds at say, 8:17 a.m., before the bell rings, is the insurance in force? Or is there a caveat that says "insurance only works once the bell rings and school officially is in session"? I doubt the latter.
One thing that worries me is that it seems like LE is trying to protect the school or school personnel. That's just from what we know, of course. But if they are, then the investigation is tained, IMHO.
Just a guess and based on the schools in my area: talent shows are usually in the cafeteria. Many times there's a stage in the cafeteria. further bolstering this guess: The talent show was slated to start at 1 pm ... which, to me, would have have been right after lunch, with most of the kids already in the cafeteria. My guess only.