Theories discussion: What could have happened to Haleigh? #3

[DotsEyes]

I just read someone's post here and something jumped out at me. This may be an epiphany. It lead to some more issues.

If RC and/or MC had anything to do with HaLeigh's disappearance, here is what does not make sense to me:

They didn't move HaLeigh's mattress in her room. I mean think about it. If you are going to claim that your child was kidnapped from her bed when she really wasn't, wouldn't you have put the mattress on her bed in her own room? This would distance the child from the sleeping babysitter and avoid all the accusations and confusion that come from her sleeping through an abduction that took place within feet of her.

There was no sign of forced entry. If you wanted it to look like an abduction, you would leave marks of "forced entry" either on the door or on the child's bedroom window, you wouldn't block a door open with a brick.

If they put the mattress in HaLeigh's bedroom, there would be no need to add the kitchen light to the mix. The darker the better for an abduction.

MC woke up to go to the bathroom and saw a time. Totally unecessary if the mattress was in HaLeigh's room. There was not reason to "wake up" at all. Just allow RC to come home and find the door open himself. MC was usually asleep anyway, why add the whole confusing pieces about before 3, sometime around 3, I saw a 3.

The clothes described. If MC knew she wasn't wearing those clothes, why not say what she was really wearing ESPECIALLY since the pink shirt is in the freaking laundry.

This is why I think they are telling the truth. The mattress wasn't moved.

That is the key for me.

 

[Whisperer]

The pink shirt is a red flag. I do not believe's M's statement of "finding it in the laundry". LE had been there for 7 days. The entire house was being gone over with a fine tooth comb. No one knows where the shirt was found. For all we know it could have been found inside the house or outside the house. LE could have placed it right whereever she found it to see if that was indeed what Haleigh was wearing that day....if you notice, the tan shorts are not mentioned anywhere. Haleigh wore that shirt with tan;shorts....note: no mention of them from anyone. Yet the alert went out with pink shirt and underwear.

Regarding the sleeping arrangements...IMO I don't think that all three children slept with R * M. (though they want to present that). I recall reading that both had sleeping issues and did not like being alone. I suggest that R * M did not like this one bit. They possibly could have been training them to sleep alone.
A fight and frustration may have occurred due to this. They both do not want people or Crystal to know about these problems.

So they are presenting a united view of the care, love and protection of the children sharing the family bed/room. I don't think this was the case at all... this is my opinion, my conjecture.

Wherever the tan shorts are/were is a big piece of the puzzle, IMO.

 

[mimimama5]

Have you ever been inside a home after the forensics team has done a thorough search? It's a disaster... and they are not obligated to put things back like they were. Wouldn't have been possible to see what it was like at the time Haleigh was there. GGma and TN had no choice but to clean it up a bit for the t.v. cameras.

Not trying to be argumentative here, just to offer a personal insight into your question. Yes, my home has been the subject of a thorough forensic search. My child passed away at home, very suddenly and unexpectedly. So my home was treated as a potential crime scene. I too had spent the day in question doing housework, obviously not after my sons passing. I can tell you ther was a team of at least 10 people inside my home, with cameras and many other investigative tools. I did not notice they left a mess AT ALL!!! Virtually nothing was out of place, as they photograph the home in its current state, and do not move things around unnessesarily. In my sons nursery, items were removed and tagged as evidence, but nothing was upended or destroyed. My cabinets were gone through, samples of his food and baby formula were taken, and his bottles. Any medication in the home was photographed. but in no way did the officers or techs ransack my home.

I am not saying 100% that the techs and officers treated the Cummings home with such respect as they did mine. I can only comment on my own persoanl expereince. There was virtually no mess at all to clean up afterwards.

 

[Flossie JMO]

I have the link right up here in my 'blotter brain'...I remember on Nancy Grace when this story first happened and Misty said these things to the local news reporters. I can still see her saying it while smoking a cigarette in a big red jacket.

If you can find links that would be great.

 

[Bobbi]

.....I'm sorry Flossie but I don't have time to find links but as I said I do remember her saying these things.

 

[kamky]

I have tried to keep an open mind and have leaned toward different theories based primarily on motive and opportunity. IMO, the recent events of the altercation with Misty's family and Misty's new polygraph revelations have provided some significant information. Now the theory of family abduction and a live Haleigh seems far less likely to me, while the possibility of SO involvement has greatly increased. This is very sad and disturbing, and has been hard for me to accept. If there has been sexual abuse going on with Misty, then there is a very short leap towards Haleigh involvement. If a family member was engaged, then there is potential for motive (abuse, drugs, money) that could also include another SO. I just hate even going in this direction.

 

[laura08]

I wanted to believe she was abducted and was hopefully okay, but now after Misty telling them to search the area where the Rose is makes me think she is deceased about 100 percent I hope I'm wrong and thats not the case

 

[Amanda]

After hearing about the rose, I had a dream last night that she is buried in a graveyard somewhere. She was put in a grave that was recently dug. For some reason there was snow everywhere. I know Florida would not have thick snow like that. I don't know if i believe in dreams or not though. But it would make sense it being a "plastic" rose as in being a fake rose..

 

[Levi]

This is pure speculation but I think that Ronald might have something to do with this and Misty was an accomplice and she might know exactly what he did, which is why Ronald told Cobra that he wanted to keep her with him.

Seems odd to me you would marry a woman who had lied to the police and told inconsistent stories when your daughters life could be literally hanging in the balance. Now that she has failed two polygraphs and layered voice stress analysis test, you would think he would have nothing to do with her, but it seems he is supporting her.

 

[DotsEyes]

Whisperer said: Wherever the tan shorts are/were is a big piece of the puzzle, IMO.


Whisperer - IIRC MC mentioned them in one of these videos, they were on the side of the little bed in the house. She may not have noticed them before/during the 911 call, found them later and the alert had to be changed.

But my point was, why make the story so difficult on themselves? Put the mattress back on Haleigh's bed and everything is soooo much easier. To come up with a story that MC was 3-4 feet away from Haleigh when she was taken is just asking for everyone to look crossways at them. Yet, that is the story.

Why the blanket story? Why bother? Just wash the evidence and throw it on the bed when it is dry, ya' know? Why come up with the laundry at all other than she was asked what she did that night and when.

And if I was Granny, I would have the place spotless before any cameras came in to peek. So I don't have any problem with the clean up. I am sure the place was a wreck most of the time. There were little 2 kids there. And since MC was gone for a few days, I am going to guess that it was a double wreck when she got back as I assume the housekeeping chores are delegated to her. I can only imagine myself at that age - whoa! - my closet was empty because all my clothes were on the floor. The only time I saw the carpeting was when my mother would get to the "I can't stand it another minute" point and clean it while I was at school.

 

[Asti]

I think Misty had to be the one who found that Haleigh was missing to distance Ron from the whole thing. It all had to happen while he was out of the house and at work. I have grappled with these same questions actually. Misty needed a reason to get up and notice the back door, hence the light. I have also thought that perhaps she turned on the light by mistake or Ron did when he came home and then it was too late to change it because their nosey neighbors with the baby may have noticed it. I tried to figure out why the mattress was staged and then it dawned on me that in order to find Haleigh missing that night (so that it had to have happened when Ronald was out of the house and had an alibi) she would have had to have noticed her gone when she went to the bathroom or wherever. Normal people would say I always check on the kids if I wake up, cover them, etc. but that whole scenario might be totally foreign to this bunch so they came up with a reason for her to get up to find Haleigh missing before Ronald got home leaving him in the clear. I don't think they wanted Ronald to be the one to discover anything and actually so far it has worked out quite well. One top of it all you are not looking at a very bright pair, this might have been the best they could do but if they did it they have managed to hide that child for almost seven months. I think they might have worried about the neighbors if they fooled too much with that back door. That lattice trailer is not all that far away when you look at some of the pics that have been taken. For all we know their lights were even on over there and there was nothing more they could do without making too much noise and being seen.Oh and I decided that Haleigh had to be in the toddler bed because of the blanket issue. If she was sleeping with Misty in the big bed then why would the blanket washing have been necessary whatever all that was about. This is just of course my own opinion and trying to think of some rational reason why certain things were done.

 

[Donjeta]

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But my point was, why make the story so difficult on themselves? Put the mattress back on Haleigh's bed and everything is soooo much easier. To come up with a story that MC was 3-4 feet away from Haleigh when she was taken is just asking for everyone to look crossways at them. Yet, that is the story.

That was one story. The previous one was that they were all in the same bed, and now the story is that the bed had not been slept at all. All the changes in the story beg for people to bend their eyes over backwards.

If this was not a crime that had been long premeditated but rather something accidental that had to be concealed quick I doubt that Misty (and Ron?) could have thought of all the ramifications of various details in the setting, and planned to have everything just-so. The constant changing of the story sounds more like making it up as things and objections they didn't think of come up. Like the waking up story. Was it to go to the bathroom? Get a drink? Because of the lights? Because I may have seen people come in and take Haleigh but it might be a dream?

Why the blanket story? Why bother? Just wash the evidence and throw it on the bed when it is dry, ya' know? Why come up with the laundry at all other than she was asked what she did that night and when.

Good question. I think the blanket is somehow significant in all of this, the way she blathered on and on about it. We still haven't found out why there was a missing blanket, in the van. Was it ever recovered?

 

[Asti]

If all of them were sleeping in the big bed then there would have been no urgent reason to be washing Haleigh's blanket that night and what are the chances that a 17 year old would bother with it if she didn't absolutely have to do it. For some reason (one can only imagine) there needed to be a reason for all the bedding getting washed that night so they needed Haleigh to be in another bed. That is just my guess. I think after the fact Misty was questioned by LE about the bedding being washed and she needed a cover story as to why. OR the whole thing is all just one huge smokescreen to keep LE focused on things that mean nothing but give them something to chase down and keep them busy rather than looking at the real things that happened that night. I am not even convinced that Haleigh ever was at the MH that night. We don't have a whole lot of factual information, you sure can't go by any story that Misty or Ron have ever given.

 

[nightfallgypsy]

I've been thinking a lot about the situation in the house, the day Haleigh went missing. Misty had just returned home from a weekend away. Monday morning, the family made a trip to granny's to get haleigh clean clothes for school. Monday night granny drops off more laundry. Perhaps Ron was expecting Misty to say away permanatly, and sent all the laundry to granny's house.
We know Misty spent a big part of the weekend with WBG, Ron's ex and a whole cast of shady characters. I wish we knew more facts about that weekend. Most of the information I found was rumor and speculation. There does seem to be bad blood between Ron and most of the people Misty spent that weekend with.
It is hard for me to rationalize Misty coming home on Monday, to help Ron cover-up the murder of Ron's daughter. I will admit Misty isn't a real sharp crayon, but why would she put herself in the position of "prime suspect"?
Misty isn't telling the truth. She knows more than she is letting on. If Misty is the key, We should be looking at the people around her during the time leading up to Haleigh going missing. These are the girls who were arrested and bailed out of jail by Cobra. One of these girls has a child with Ron, her grandmother called the police to say Ron was stalking her at her home.
I do not understand why these people aren't even on the radar. They aren't listed in the current poll on websleuths and I found posts about them but not even a thread. Were they cleared???
This is still just a theory I'm working on. I'm not accusing anyone, just trying to sort out the events that lead up to this beautiful baby going missing.

 

[phylliyum]

Well, my theory for quite awhile has been that the reason Haleigh is gone and Jr isn't is that they were in separate rooms. Hayleigh found some type of drug she thought was candy (xanny bar or whatever) and ate it. Of course she didn't offer to share because she knew she shouldn't have candy at bedtime--plus he was out in the living room.

MC found her when she put Jr to bed--called RC and some form of getting her out of there was decided on. My assumption is that the drugs belonged to RC and MC held it over his head as insurance---marry me or I squeal. That's the only logical explanation I can come up with. And of course, JMO

actually, this theory explains the marriage - should one of them be brought to trial, the other can not be forced to testify. (Spousal Privilege)

there is definitely something suspicious about the marriage....there is something off about this whole scenario. Why does it seem that Florida has a higher than average case of child abuse (or maybe just more publicized...Kayla McKean, Rilya Wilson...I know there are more they just aren't coming to mind right now...)

 

[Baznme]

actually, this theory explains the marriage - should one of them be brought to trial, the other can not be forced to testify. (Spousal Privilege)

there is definitely something suspicious about the marriage....there is something off about this whole scenario. Why does it seem that Florida has a higher than average case of child abuse (or maybe just more publicized...Kayla McKean, Rilya Wilson...I know there are more they just aren't coming to mind right now...)

Actually, that's misinformation regarding spousal privilege in Florida. That doesn't apply in this State. It's possible that the Cummings newlyweds did not know that before they tied the knot. I've got some bad vibes as to why they don't seem to know more, have done more in 7 months time. RC makes a comment "keep your enemies closer" more than once. The supposed "enemy" turns out to be his wife and that's his logic for marrying her? If she's the enemy, why does she have to be right under his nose both legally and physically? Why is that Ron? Because she's the last one to see Haleigh, yeah.....OK. That's not a reason to marry someone. And the other one, MC. All she wanted was that white dress and veil. You could have put a moustache on a stump and she wouldn't have cared as long as she got to wear that white dress and veil. The poor family members standing around the wedding couple trying to show some happiness when you know they're thinking we have to keep our composure "for them" and have to be patient around them when all the while they are screaming inside, it's the baby that's should be the most important, not a wedding. RC's and MC's explanation was "Haleigh would have wanted this. What do you mean "wanted"......as in past tense? If she wanted this, why not wait until you get her back home and be a part of it??? Unless you know something other than what everyone else knows!

RC knows more than he's letting on and MC will do anything or say anything he tells her to. Something is wrotten in Denmark with both of them. I've felt that since the 911 call. It's amazing how he goes from an inaudible wail to a straight, clear audible voice within a split second when he hands the phone over to MC. Just absolutely amazing! As always, MO only.

 

[kamky]

I so enjoy reading these theories. You people are so bright. However, in every theory, I have to remind myself that there is another person who has to be accounted for - Ron Jr.
If something happened to Haleigh earlier in the evening at the hands of Ron and Misty or either one alone, how does Ron Jr. fit into the picture?
Was he awake, was he around?
No matter how we build a theory, Ron Jr.'s whereabouts have to be figured into each and every idea of what happened in that home the night this little girl disappeared.
I know he was interviewed but I am not sure we really know the truth of what was reported he said - the bouncing couch, the black man....I just want to remind all of you when you compile your theory to humor me and included Ron Jr.'s whereabouts in your ideas.
Thanks

You raise some good points, and there is much we don't know. Hopefully, LE knows more about Jr because they interviewed him early on. They are keeping quiet and anything we have heard about what Jr said is just hearsay. For all we know, Jr may have told LE that Haleigh was taken by a woman. That would take this case in a whole new direction!
(Note: Not intending to start a rumor...this is just an example.)

 

[Skully]

Okay here is theory 999

Misty got into a fight with Ronald after he went to work, just after the AC guy talked to Ron on the phone. The AC guy is the ex husband of Ron's aunt IIRC from the VSA. So this ex uncle of Ron's tells Ron by the way Tommy's over here smoking pot. Ron tells Misty to tell Tommy to leave, so that is why the AC guy left the same time as Tommy. So Ron calls GGMS and tell her to check up on Misty, make sure she is home, no pot smoking going on. They go over with cloths as an excuse to check up on her. Later Misty calls Ron to tell him to stop checking up on her and they get into this big fight. Misty calls Tommy and asks him to come over and watch the kids while she goes out for whatever. She comes home, Tommy tells her the kids are in bed (own rooms) and he leaves. She never check on the kids and just passes out, on the couch.

She wakes up and goes past Haleigh's room and doesn't see her. Now she calls Tommy and SIL. That would explain the radio transmission about the last seen comment of 1 1/2 to 2 hours ago comment at Tyler. Also the neighbor said she heard screaming at 2am, which lines up with the radio comment. There is also some rumor that someone saw a red truck that night , but I don't have a link, we were talking about that on the RT. So Misty can't find Haleigh and knows Tommy was the last person there, but can't say she was out and she or her and Tommy stage the MH to make sure Ron believes she was taken like she is going to tell it. Tommy doesn't want to be accused, he swears she was there when he left, Misty can't say she left the kids with Tommy, so now she is pointing a finger at him, without telling the whole story. Just thought I would throw another theory out there to confuse everyone some more.

 

[DotsEyes]

Okay here is theory 999

Misty got into a fight with Ronald after he went to work, just after the AC guy talked to Ron on the phone. The AC guy is the ex husband of Ron's aunt IIRC from the VSA. So this ex uncle of Ron's tells Ron by the way Tommy's over here smoking pot. Ron tells Misty to tell Tommy to leave, so that is why the AC guy left the same time as Tommy. So Ron calls GGMS and tell her to check up on Misty, make sure she is home, no pot smoking going on. They go over with cloths as an excuse to check up on her. Later Misty calls Ron to tell him to stop checking up on her and they get into this big fight. Misty calls Tommy and asks him to come over and watch the kids while she goes out for whatever. She comes home, Tommy tells her the kids are in bed (own rooms) and he leaves. She never check on the kids and just passes out, on the couch.

She wakes up and goes past Haleigh's room and doesn't see her. Now she calls Tommy and SIL. That would explain the radio transmission about the last seen comment of 1 1/2 to 2 hours ago comment at Tyler. Also the neighbor said she heard screaming at 2am, which lines up with the radio comment. There is also some rumor that someone saw a red truck that night , but I don't have a link, we were talking about that on the RT. So Misty can't find Haleigh and knows Tommy was the last person there, but can't say she was out and she or her and Tommy stage the MH to make sure Ron believes she was taken like she is going to tell it. Tommy doesn't want to be accused, he swears she was there when he left, Misty can't say she left the kids with Tommy, so now she is pointing a finger at him, without telling the whole story. Just thought I would throw another theory out there to confuse everyone some more.

Bern you must be reading my mind tonight. I was so on this too.

Here is where I can't make some of the leaps without further information. I heard MC say that the A/C man worked for the same company as RC's cousin's ex-husband, not his aunt's ex-husband and never that the ex-husband of whoever was THE A/C guy at the house. So I have to take that direct connection out of the equation until I know that relationship exists.

MC turns off her phone right after 8:30p (after GGS and Aunt Lisa leave from the spying mission - "I had someone to over there around 7:00 to check on the kids." 7:00/8:00-ish. . .then the 8:30 call, Tommy is going to babysit and she is going out but isn't telling RC - he'll never know. She turns off her phone and leaves it on the dresser, charging. Add to your scenario that Tommy is loaded and invites Cuz over to get high and watch the tube while the kids sleep. MC has no idea that Tommy has called Cuz. She is going to be out late but she will get home before RC does. She covers Haleigh before she leaves, hence the emotion every time she talks about covering Haleigh with the sheet/then the blanket.

Cuz arrives in the blue van. HC2 is in the red truck. The van gets damaged leaving the area because Cuz ran into a barbed wire fence somewhere. Or at least scratches that are consistent with the spacing of barbed wire.

 

[RoseRed]

I've been thinking a lot about the situation in the house, the day Haleigh went missing. Misty had just returned home from a weekend away. Monday morning, the family made a trip to granny's to get haleigh clean clothes for school. Monday night granny drops off more laundry. Perhaps Ron was expecting Misty to say away permanatly, and sent all the laundry to granny's house.
We know Misty spent a big part of the weekend with WBG, Ron's ex and a whole cast of shady characters. I wish we knew more facts about that weekend. Most of the information I found was rumor and speculation. There does seem to be bad blood between Ron and most of the people Misty spent that weekend with.
It is hard for me to rationalize Misty coming home on Monday, to help Ron cover-up the murder of Ron's daughter. I will admit Misty isn't a real sharp crayon, but why would she put herself in the position of "prime suspect"?
Misty isn't telling the truth. She knows more than she is letting on. If Misty is the key, We should be looking at the people around her during the time leading up to Haleigh going missing. These are the girls who were arrested and bailed out of jail by Cobra. One of these girls has a child with Ron, her grandmother called the police to say Ron was stalking her at her home.
I do not understand why these people aren't even on the radar. They aren't listed in the current poll on websleuths and I found posts about them but not even a thread. Were they cleared???
This is still just a theory I'm working on. I'm not accusing anyone, just trying to sort out the events that lead up to this beautiful baby going missing.

BBM
I have that as my top theory and I am dying to know where the Mother of the girl above is now and has she been seen since Haleigh has gone missing.