Theories on what happened to Haleigh

[elle1919]

This is pretty much what I feel happened too also.I feel some of the inconsistencies she said are because she honestly doesn't remember how things happened.I do feel she was wacked out and strung out on drugs and never woke up.I feel some one from the party she said she did not go to kidnapped Haleigh at some point that night or some one came in and kidnapped Haleigh while she was gone and when misty got back she never even realised Haleigh was gone because she was too waisted.

My bold....I was just wondering what party you were talking about? Is there proof there was a party the night Haleigh went missing?

 

[Ms Suzanne]

My bold....I was just wondering what party you were talking about? Is there proof there was a party the night Haleigh went missing?

I believe some one called in a tip about misty not being at the house.I believe they said she was at party?If any one knows any more on this who called in?and who was at this party?or partying some where can you please let me know.

 

[mybrokenwings]

I am beginning to think that the marriage happened because Misty blackmailed Ron into it. He has an anger problem. He has been said to abuse his kids. Yes, abusers DO love their kids and lots of people are shocked to find out who abusers are. He hit Haleigh too hard and killed her. Misty helped him cover it up. His mother has lied for him because she believes him and is trying to help them to not be suspects. I don't believe a single person in either of those families! They are all lying to protect each other.

I happen to know that an abused child can appear happy and normal in pictures and person. They can show no signs of abuse, but be horribly abused at home. It happened to me and nobody saw it!! To this day nobody would believe it if I told them who were friends or relatives!! My dad did it, my mother covered it up! I was clean all the time, well fed, appeared happy because I WAS happy when I got attention!

That's my explainatioin for the wedding.

 

[elle1919]

I believe some one called in a tip about misty not being at the house.I believe they said she was at party?If any one knows any more on this who called in?and who was at this party?or partying some where can you please let me know.

I believe it is true that there was speculation by LE that Misty was out of the home on the night in question, so they called her back in to repolygraph her on that issue. But only Misty has come forward to say she passed that polygraph. LE has not cleared Misty.....or anyone else for that matter, except the AC guy I think. so, pretty much it has not been proven that there was a party that night or that Misty left the house that night and left the children alone. All the rest is speculation.

 

[Indigo]

I am beginning to think that the marriage happened because Misty blackmailed Ron into it. He has an anger problem. He has been said to abuse his kids. Yes, abusers DO love their kids and lots of people are shocked to find out who abusers are. He hit Haleigh too hard and killed her. Misty helped him cover it up. His mother has lied for him because she believes him and is trying to help them to not be suspects. I don't believe a single person in either of those families! They are all lying to protect each other.

I happen to know that an abused child can appear happy and normal in pictures and person. They can show no signs of abuse, but be horribly abused at home. It happened to me and nobody saw it!! To this day nobody would believe it if I told them who were friends or relatives!! My dad did it, my mother covered it up! I was clean all the time, well fed, appeared happy because I WAS happy when I got attention!

That's my explainatioin for the wedding.

(respectfully bolded) Excellent point, mybrokenwings. While it's hard for many of us to fathom, it's entirely possible for a person to love their child with all of their heart--yet "lose it" in a fit of rage.

These parent would still grieve the loss of their child, as weird as it may seem.

 

[Ms Suzanne]

I believe it is true that there was speculation by LE that Misty was out of the home on the night in question, so they called her back in to repolygraph her on that issue. But only Misty has come forward to say she passed that polygraph. LE has not cleared Misty.....or anyone else for that matter, except the AC guy I think. so, pretty much it has not been proven that there was a party that night or that Misty left the house that night and left the children alone. All the rest is speculation.

Ok,thank you.I personally don't think that tip would have been called in if there wasn't something to it.Even if she had been seen with these people earlier.I do strongly feel she was waisted on drugs and passed out to not hear any thing in the house when Haleigh was taken.That is irresponsibility on her part to these children in her care if that happened.

 

[debs]

You know, it could very well be true that Misty passed the polygraph which asked her whether she was at home. In fact, in consideration of the new statements by LE regarding their latest questioning, I would bet nearly all my snickerdoodle cookies that they told her that they believed she was at home. I just also believe, and will throw in my Russian tea cakes, that they told her that to let her know they know she had more to do with what happened and are allowing her to place herself firmly at the scene. She just didn't get that part of it.

 

[MeoW333]

I think either Misty killed Haleigh (possibly in her mind Haleigh was competition for Ron). As sick as it sounds, it is a possibility. Either that Misty could have killed Haleigh for other reasons, witnessing something at the house that night.
Or due to Misty's negligence (not being home, or passed out on drugs, or direct involvement with a perp) Haleigh went missing.
Now we see Misty and Ron have got married, Misty is very happy about it, however Ron doesn't seem so thrilled.
Misty certainly knows more about that night than she's let on and things aren't looking very good.
I wouldn't be surprised if Misty is arrested soon..imo

 

[Becky319]

I think all the parties involved could be suspect however the fact remains this happened at Ronald and Mistys. Sorry if we have to pry into his personal life but it is important, who does he hang around with, who does he have over, is he dealing drugs? does he do drugs, does Misty do drugs, could Misty have been high or passed out on drugs when Haleigh went missing. Misty admitted maybe her SO cousin had harmed Haleigh. Chrystal seems to talk candidly about her drug use and always says how much Ronald loved Haleigh, how Haleigh was a daddy's girl, Mommy and Daddy miss you. Ronald doesn't do that, some say well he is speaking from his heart not theirs..tells you his heart is self centered JMO and experience with people that seem to only worry about themselves. I think once Chrystal lost custody she accepted that as punishment for her drug use around her children previously. This whole case is a mess with folks acting in ways we can't imagine since we are not walking in any of their shoes. I say to them like I always said to the Anthony's..please please tell the truth so LE can find this precious child. I have to end with maybe they all have told LE and just don't want to tell John Q. Public. If that is the case I apologize to anyone who was totally honest with LE, you know who you are.

 

[Boytwnmom]

I have already posted my theory and am still thinking that scenario. As more facts become known (ever so slowly), then we all will have to change what we think happened.

The only new development has been the outer door LE took late this afternoon. If a print had been lifted from that door, it would seem that LE might have taken it then, rather than now. Maybe the bottom of that door is very dented in the same areas that might indicate a cinder block placed at the door had been done repeatedly. I just cannot begin to imagine why that door was not taken earlier than today if there was any evidentiary value to it.

Right now I still think that it is Ronald and Misty that have the answers.

I do believe they have the answers. At first I thought maybe just Misty but given the turn of events I have to include Ron.

It makes no sense that he switched from apparently blaming Misty in the 911 call to marrying her while her stories continued to change and she had mutiple police interviews and lie detector tests. The marriage would defy logic unless Ron knows and was invovled in what transpired. Especially given her walking out on the police questioning because the officer was insufficiently deferential to her. No way would a truly concerned parent find this behavior acceptable and proceed with marrying the person who is refusing to assist in the investigation when they were the person with the child when she disappeared. Perhaps marriage is a payback which could explain why he did it while appearing to not enjoy it very much.

On another note I greatly enjoy reading your posts and find them quite illuminating.

 

[Boytwnmom]

I am not saying that step-moms can't be maternal and love their step-children as their own. But we are talking Misty here. She has been on the street pretty much through her teenage years. She has not exactly had a mother teaching her how to be a "mother". She let a known sexual predator near the children, she had no clue what she put the child to bed wearing. Sorry those are not "motherly" things imo. While I don't believe Misty had anything to do with Haleighs disappearance, I do not believe she had motherly instincts towards the children.

For the record some of the best moms in the world are step-moms....but reality is at 17 it is hard for a girl to be a mom for her own child....much less a mom for somebody elses. JMO

behavior consistent with loving the children as a mother. If she did she would NOT have wanted the marriage until Haleigh was home; she would have wanted to off to NY and leave Junior without the two adult figures he was used ot living with in the midst of this horrible situation; she would not be giddily showing off a ring and she would especially NOT be walking out of police interviews. While many steparents are stellar examples of parenting, in my opinion, she ain't one.

She comes from a dysfunctional family, she had nothing until she latched onto Ron, no home, no job, no education, no prospects, no personal ambitions. I am sure she would go to great lenghts to keep the things latching onto Ron gave her. I don't get the feeling Haleigh was #1 but rather that Misty is Misty's only real priority. Hey, she's had a rough life but it shows.

 

[kiki the parrot]

I am beginning to think that the marriage happened because Misty blackmailed Ron into it. He has an anger problem. He has been said to abuse his kids. Yes, abusers DO love their kids and lots of people are shocked to find out who abusers are. He hit Haleigh too hard and killed her. Misty helped him cover it up. His mother has lied for him because she believes him and is trying to help them to not be suspects. I don't believe a single person in either of those families! They are all lying to protect each other.

I happen to know that an abused child can appear happy and normal in pictures and person. They can show no signs of abuse, but be horribly abused at home. It happened to me and nobody saw it!! To this day nobody would believe it if I told them who were friends or relatives!! My dad did it, my mother covered it up! I was clean all the time, well fed, appeared happy because I WAS happy when I got attention!

That's my explainatioin for the wedding.

The thought I keep coming back to is what, if anything, could Misty possibly hold over dad...? :waitasec:

Re: staged

Why stage anything? If Ron had come home as usually and found the front door slightly ajar and Haleigh missing, then called 911 it would have all been chalked up to the door being left unlocked. Misty would have been asleep and could have just played dumb. staging makes no sense.
Re: cinder block
Since the back door was equipped with its own gadget to hold the door open the stager or intruder was ignorant of those devices. I say young kid. Kind of stupid to lug a cinder block there unless the cinder block was going to be used to break a window to get in.
Re: Misty
I don't think she has the intelligence to invent any kind of story.

Have run this over and over in my mind. If Misty in fact left for any length of time, she would have been afraid to assume responsibility on ANY level. On GR his bro CR said one of tipsters reports seeing Misty gone from the home allegedly doing drugs as early as 7:30ish--earlier even than the time Misty reports she put both kids to bed. Did she set the two children up w a video in the bedroom immediately after dinner and allow Haleigh to sleep w Junior in their bed in order to leave? Did Haleigh fall asleep there and later pee their bed? Did Misty then return only an hour or so prior to dad only to find their bedding soiled? Did she react in a fit of rage? Send Haleigh outside to punish her? Or did she return home to no Haleigh anywhere. Now we've heard dad dismiss Junior's report of "man in black." Was Junior just referring to uniformed LE, who descended upon the house at the time he awoke to hear his sissy was gone? Why does dad discount what mom says Junior told her? If you were trying to conceal any involvement would you discount reports of somebody else on scene? Wouldn't this make the perfect scapegoat? Afterall, wouldn't this be consistent w what his now wife has claimed all along? Why would dad disbelieve his young son given he's already accepted childbride's version that an intruder entered the home and "stole" Haleigh right from under her nose? Does he disbelieve Junior's story because he thinks he was coached by mom whom he genuinely suspects of kidnapping only one of their two children (in Emmy Award-Winning Lifetime Channel script previously outlined)? Or does dad know mom had nothing to do w it, but is so bitter toward mom following her allegations and so defensive re custody now that he'd rather see her sweat and be viewed as a suspect? I don't get it. :waitasec: I mean exactly wth is going on here? JMO
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[kikid]

I do believe they have the answers. At first I thought maybe just Misty but given the turn of events I have to include Ron.

It makes no sense that he switched from apparently blaming Misty in the 911 call to marrying her while her stories continued to change and she had mutiple police interviews and lie detector tests. The marriage would defy logic unless Ron knows and was invovled in what transpired. Especially given her walking out on the police questioning because the officer was insufficiently deferential to her. No way would a truly concerned parent find this behavior acceptable and proceed with marrying the person who is refusing to assist in the investigation when they were the person with the child when she disappeared. Perhaps marriage is a payback which could explain why he did it while appearing to not enjoy it very much.

On another note I greatly enjoy reading your posts and find them quite illuminating.

exactly, lets say that perhaps Misty covered up and/or lied for Ron... and let's say she did it because she loved him.... its all good and fine, but then LE starts leaning heavy on her, RC is calling her his "dumb b**** girlfriend", RC is saying "IDK, I was at work" - throwing all suspicion back at Misty..... and Misty lies and covers because she loves him..... but then all this money starts rolling in to RC and people are giving him things & money & sympathy and maybe just maybe loving him wasn't enough to keep her mouth shut anymore.... now that they are married any money they may receive is after all half hers.

I heard TN say in an interview that all the money collected for Ron would be donated if/when Haleigh comes home alive.... well what if (God forbid) she doesn't, then where does the money go?

 

[elle1919]

I think all the parties involved could be suspect however the fact remains this happened at Ronald and Mistys. Sorry if we have to pry into his personal life but it is important, who does he hang around with, who does he have over, is he dealing drugs? does he do drugs, does Misty do drugs, could Misty have been high or passed out on drugs when Haleigh went missing. Misty admitted maybe her SO cousin had harmed Haleigh. Chrystal seems to talk candidly about her drug use and always says how much Ronald loved Haleigh, how Haleigh was a daddy's girl, Mommy and Daddy miss you. Ronald doesn't do that, some say well he is speaking from his heart not theirs..tells you his heart is self centered JMO and experience with people that seem to only worry about themselves. I think once Chrystal lost custody she accepted that as punishment for her drug use around her children previously. This whole case is a mess with folks acting in ways we can't imagine since we are not walking in any of their shoes. I say to them like I always said to the Anthony's..please please tell the truth so LE can find this precious child. I have to end with maybe they all have told LE and just don't want to tell John Q. Public. If that is the case I apologize to anyone who was totally honest with LE, you know who you are.

Even though I don't agree with all....it was a very insightful and honest post!

 

[newuser]

This is what I think happened. My opinion only. The kids went to bed at 8. MC was under the influence of some man made substance, and therefore does not know or remember when she went to bed or who had what blanket on them. She awoke at some point, and found Haleigh not in the bed. She looked around and found the door propped open. She looked around, couldn't find Haleigh, and couldn't remember if/what happened. She was worked into a good panic by the time RC got home, which was a legitimate panic because she really doesn't know what happened. RC had the expected reaction, and the rest is, well, history.

I believe that is why MC is so insistent that she has passed the polys, because she really has told the truth - she has no idea what happened because she was not in control of her senses.

 

[txsvicki]

I believe it is true that there was speculation by LE that Misty was out of the home on the night in question, so they called her back in to repolygraph her on that issue. But only Misty has come forward to say she passed that polygraph. LE has not cleared Misty.....or anyone else for that matter, except the AC guy I think. so, pretty much it has not been proven that there was a party that night or that Misty left the house that night and left the children alone. All the rest is speculation.

You'd think that if Misty were at some sort of party that night there would be cell phone pics somewhere. After seeing Casey's partying and all those pics, surely some young person would have taken some of Misti or got her in the view. Unless, she was really crafty at staying out of them.

 

[aprilshowers]

I am beginning to think that the marriage happened because Misty blackmailed Ron into it. He has an anger problem. He has been said to abuse his kids. Yes, abusers DO love their kids and lots of people are shocked to find out who abusers are. He hit Haleigh too hard and killed her. Misty helped him cover it up. His mother has lied for him because she believes him and is trying to help them to not be suspects. I don't believe a single person in either of those families! They are all lying to protect each other.

I happen to know that an abused child can appear happy and normal in pictures and person. They can show no signs of abuse, but be horribly abused at home. It happened to me and nobody saw it!! To this day nobody would believe it if I told them who were friends or relatives!! My dad did it, my mother covered it up! I was clean all the time, well fed, appeared happy because I WAS happy when I got attention!

That's my explainatioin for the wedding.

If this were true, wouldn't Misty be VERY sad ... crying allot and feeling horrible? She doesn't appear to be emotional at all right now.

 

[kikid]

bringing a topic over from the Misty C thread....

kikid what do think about this?
IMO I think LE has known Misty is guilty, and are maybe trying to determine if rc is, and are waiting for that one lead to link him as well. I think that they could be thrown by the fact that TN and Grandma have given alibis to stopping by and such, which makes me think they could be covering RC(hard to believe) but that is making finding the time of the crime impossible, which without a time of crime its harder to crack a case. wow that was hard to explain.....just thinkin...

I am also leaning more to the fact that RC is involved.
#1.because he is too forgiving of the 'cant get her story straight' girl who let his "daughter get stole"
and
#2. On the Today show he was asked if JR ever said anything to him about the man in black, he said "no I was at work" well
A. that wasnt the question
and
B. He was all defensive when he said it which to me was like-----I was at work I have and alibi and I dont have to answer chit...
Well with this, I have to say, even with an alibi, who is to say thatthe crime didnt happen earlier and it was planned to call 911 when he got home from work....
Just sayin...MOO
thought id bring this upstairs for some thoughts on this anyone??

I've said before that IF RC did something to Haleigh before work (perhaps he lost his temper and hit her) that it could be possible for a child to die hours later from injuries sustained in a beating (concussion or internal injuries). In the case of concussion there would most likely be vomiting or seizures (loss of bladder control) - which would explain all the blanket washing.

anyhow he didn't have to be there at the time of death to be responsible for the death.

 

[kikid]

so true, but he will have to live with himself and think about it everyday. and if misty noticed vomiting and seizures, why not call someone for help?

I can think of a few reasons she might not call for help... 1) she saw Ron hit Haleigh, maybe there were marks or bruises on Haleigh? 2) she called Ron and he told her not to take her to the emergency or call an ambulance? 3) She called someone else instead (pure conjecture but lets roll with it) like GGM, TN, or her SIL the one in school to be an LPN?

 

[Indigo]

I've said before that IF RC did something to Haleigh before work (perhaps he lost his temper and hit her) that it could be possible for a child to die hours later from injuries sustained in a beating (concussion or internal injuries). In the case of concussion there would most likely be vomiting or seizures (loss of bladder control) - which would explain all the blanket washing.

anyhow he didn't have to be there at the time of death to be responsible for the death.

Good thinking, kikid.