Timmy & Chelsea Croslin; and the hours before Haleigh went missing.

[waughx6]

Welcome, and glad you are no longer a lurker. That's a great story and I'm glad you take the time to tell your daughters about the illegal behaviour of some people and what these peeps can do. I have 5 grandchildren, three are girls (the twin boys are too young) and I talk and talk and talk to them about all of the difference situations. I often get the eye rolls, but I don't care. It worries me sick about all the nuts out there, and given the opportunity, what they would do to our little children!

Thanks for the welcome! I also have twin daughters, they are 15. Sometimes I wonder if I share too many horror stories, until I turn on the news and see brand new things everyday. They think I am "too protective". I think if they think that, I am doing my job. I just tell them I only have one of each of them and I need to protect it, just like they do with their cell phones, game systems, etc. Seems to quiet them. But I still get the eye rolls.

 

[Nonni Brenda]

IMO The Croslins aren't any more crooked, hooked on drugs or dysfunctional than the Cummings/Neves/Sykes clan...JMHO

I agree Em. I wouldn't begin to compare which family is more crooked, drug hooked or dysfunctional. The contest would be too close to call...IMO

 

[BigMomma]

Hadn't thought about that in awhile. Lindsay went I believe. I can see why Misty would go to Granny Hollars, she helped raise her and probably loved her and felt bad she was in the situation she put herself in.

Yes, LC did go up to MA and her and TC also went to TN. I'm not real sure if TC. LC and Misty were in TN at the same time, I do not think they were, but strange just the same all this visiting activity was going only led me to speculate someone or ones were getting their ducks in a row. Hoodwinky making up stories for the almighty dollar, getting everyone all mixed up with what truly had happened. imo.
I cannot believe the audacity of Granny Flo either. She shoots from the hip, but sometimes some things are just better left unsaid, she didn't need to go there, on the JO thing. I truly believe she was being fed a lot of kool aid every time prior to getting on NG or whatever show picked her.
Truly, I think at times I need to be heavily medicated- between staying on track with this story and then the other story as well. It's all so maddening, isn't it?:sick:

 

[Nonni Brenda]

So why is Chelsea trying to make out its Haliegh?

Probably for the same reason the Anthony's are trying to say that Caylee is still alive. They know who is guilty, and want to cast a "shadow of doubt." JMO

 

[MADJGNLAW]

I have always felt that Chelsea and Timmy know what happen that night and may of even been part of what happen... I have always felt she was lying just as much as Misty, Ron, TN, GGM, and Tommy. JMO :cow:

I would like to know why Chelsea still has her children, she was busted for marijuana possession, I would bet this is not the first time she has ever had marijuana or other drugs near by. Is she still up north or did she move back to FL?

:waitasec: I thought Volushia County was in Florida?


As for LE in FL, well they have followed 5000 leads, well that is the same amount, nothing has changed I do wonder if that town is ever going to get someone to come in there and take over.

:cow: JMO... I don't feel LE did all they could to find Haleigh or get answers from Misty. Not one charge on Misty or Ron for child neglect. Not right! JMO :cow:


All letters received by inmates at Lowell Correctional, where Misty Croslin resides in Ocala, Fla., are copied and forwarded to Putnam County investigators, so if there were something there to follow, experts say Sheriff Jeff Hardy would be all over it.

Curiously, Chelsea Croslin began fanning the latest flames shortly after she was busted for marijuana possession in nearby Volushia County.
"Snip" http://www.artharris.com/2011/04/12/exclusive-fbi-quashes-haleigh-cummings-hysteria/

 

[4Jacy]

I have always felt that Chelsea and Timmy know what happen that night and may of even been part of what happen... I have always felt she was lying just as much as Misty, Ron, TN, GGM, and Tommy. JMO :cow:

I would like to know why Chelsea still has her children, she was busted for marijuana possession, I would bet this is not the first time she has ever had marijuana or other drugs near by. Is she still up north or did she move back to FL?

:waitasec: I thought Volushia County was in Florida?


As for LE in FL, well they have followed 5000 leads, well that is the same amount, nothing has changed I do wonder if that town is ever going to get someone to come in there and take over.

:cow: JMO... I don't feel LE did all they could to find Haleigh or get answers from Misty. Not one charge on Misty or Ron for child neglect. Not right! JMO :cow:


All letters received by inmates at Lowell Correctional, where Misty Croslin resides in Ocala, Fla., are copied and forwarded to Putnam County investigators, so if there were something there to follow, experts say Sheriff Jeff Hardy would be all over it.

Curiously, Chelsea Croslin began fanning the latest flames shortly after she was busted for marijuana possession in nearby Volushia County.
"Snip" http://www.artharris.com/2011/04/12/exclusive-fbi-quashes-haleigh-cummings-hysteria/

bbm
How could Chelsea receive a phone call around 4:00 saying Haleigh was missing and go back to sleep. This is the "neice" she loved so much that she went out and got a angel tatt with Haleigh's name.

 

[tlcya]

My first problem with this - the timing. It comes days after her recent arrest for pot.

My second - if indeed Misty has pics showing a live Haleigh in KY, you bet her behind would have offered em up herself in an attempt to better her situation. Furthermore, IF indeed these photos exist, why then is Chelsea only NOW spouting off about them? Why not last month during her conversations with AH? Wasn't important enough just what - a month or so ago?

My third - I am still convinced that Misty's mail is being monitored and if her "fan" mail contained photos of a child resembling Haleigh, I'm pretty sure LE would have been all over that.

My fourth - It comes from Chelsea. Quite frankly, I do not believe a word out of the mouth of any single one of the Cummings/Croslin family or friends. I have a general mistrust of any of their commments, even were one to tell me the sky is blue.

 

[BigMomma]

My first problem with this - the timing. It comes days after her recent arrest for pot.

My second - if indeed Misty has pics showing a live Haleigh in KY, you bet her behind would have offered em up herself in an attempt to better her situation. Furthermore, IF indeed these photos exist, why then is Chelsea only NOW spouting off about them? Why not last month during her conversations with AH? Wasn't important enough just what - a month or so ago?

My third - I am still convinced that Misty's mail is being monitored and if her "fan" mail contained photos of a child resembling Haleigh, I'm pretty sure LE would have been all over that.

My fourth - It comes from Chelsea. Quite frankly, I do not believe a word out of the mouth of any single one of the Cummings/Croslin family or friends. I have a general mistrust of any of their commments, even were one to tell me the sky is blue.

I blew up that photo and that photo is definately photoshopped and recopied. One eye lighter than the other, also looks as though the ears were made a little bigger, not to mention the bad hair coloring ink job on the hair and the teeth, there seems to be a double row of teeth.
I'm with you, never could really trust any one of these groups of family members. I think if any one of them told the actual truth, the sky would indeed fall.
I went reading on another site, not sure if I can put a link or mention the guy's name, maybe I can just say he's has Satire on his page but now there is rumor out that Misty has got a Myspace account or Facebook account right from prison:woohoo:. The person who wrote the article has narrowed it down to two individuals, one being CC. :doh:

 

[twall]

I have always felt that Chelsea and Timmy know what happen that night and may of even been part of what happen... I have always felt she was lying just as much as Misty, Ron, TN, GGM, and Tommy. JMO :cow:

I would like to know why Chelsea still has her children, she was busted for marijuana possession, I would bet this is not the first time she has ever had marijuana or other drugs near by. Is she still up north or did she move back to FL?

:waitasec: I thought Volushia County was in Florida?


As for LE in FL, well they have followed 5000 leads, well that is the same amount, nothing has changed I do wonder if that town is ever going to get someone to come in there and take over.

:cow: JMO... I don't feel LE did all they could to find Haleigh or get answers from Misty. Not one charge on Misty or Ron for child neglect. Not right! JMO :cow:


All letters received by inmates at Lowell Correctional, where Misty Croslin resides in Ocala, Fla., are copied and forwarded to Putnam County investigators, so if there were something there to follow, experts say Sheriff Jeff Hardy would be all over it.

Curiously, Chelsea Croslin began fanning the latest flames shortly after she was busted for marijuana possession in nearby Volushia County.
"Snip" http://www.artharris.com/2011/04/12/exclusive-fbi-quashes-haleigh-cummings-hysteria/

link to thread about Chelsa's arrest and return to FL.

2011.04.08 - Chelsea Croslin Arrested - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

 

[Kimster]

Time for someone to dig up the Gramma Hollars thread. Just sayin'.

 

[lonetraveler]

What is up with the hair on that child in the pictures? Those pics look photo shopped to me. It looks like that child had light colored curly hair that was up in a bun and somebody painted in the darker hair.

The pictures also appear to be much older than what is being claimed. The edges are all darkened and worn.

Looks nothing like HaLeigh either, IMO! I do not see the sleepy eye from Turners.

Ridiculous, IMO. Just ridiculous. If anybody in any of those families truly love HaLeigh, truly, truly LOVE her, and they know anything at all that might help, they need to step up and out with it or I hope they rot forever...

JMO and all that jazz.

Beyond frustrated with the whole crew...

Looking further at the pictures they look like pictures we have from the 1960's. It looks like they were b/w and that they have faded so badly that the toner level on a copier had to be darkened to the extent that there is even black on the child's neck. So, maybe not photoshopped but just darkened so much that they appear photoshopped. IMO those pics are very, very old. JMO

I agree with you there. The hair looks like someone took a Sharpie pen and blacked it out FGS.........................:banghead:

 

[dsntslp]

I blew up that photo and that photo is definately photoshopped and recopied. One eye lighter than the other, also looks as though the ears were made a little bigger, not to mention the bad hair coloring ink job on the hair and the teeth, there seems to be a double row of teeth.
I'm with you, never could really trust any one of these groups of family members. I think if any one of them told the actual truth, the sky would indeed fall.
I went reading on another site, not sure if I can put a link or mention the guy's name, maybe I can just say he's has Satire on his page but now there is rumor out that Misty has got a Myspace account or Facebook account right from prison:woohoo:. The person who wrote the article has narrowed it down to two individuals, one being CC. :doh:

Put it up on the big screen in the living room and it will make you down right angry at the attempt, IMO.

 

[SmoothOperator]

I have never allowed myself to make an absolute mindset or theory set in stone of what happened during those hours of February 9th into the wee hours of the morning of February 10 2009 to this beautiful little girl that has captured all of our hearts..How could I when the only thing that is known for absolute in this case is the fact that EVERYONE in/around this entire case is a self-proven LIAR?

But I will admit that Ms. Chelsea Croslin has never been at the top of my list..but strangely she has never even come close to being on one of the lower rungs or bottom of my list of suspects "directly involved"either..I have always carried a great deal of suspicion for her but never could get a strong indication of involvement or was it just her "trashy".."off-putting" demeanors..speech patterns and behaviors..but I will say that just within this year of 2011 I have had my "hinky meter" go absolutely haywire where Ms.Chelsea Croslin is concerned and try as I may to just chalk it up to her trashy way of carrying herself and presenting herself..I just cannot get her off my meter and outta my sights..rather I am zooming in closer and closer with more and more detail slowly becoming more and more crystal clear of just everything about Ms.Chelsea Croslin..And I have almost even gone as far to put a label on what I feel about her involvement..

I'll start by saying this.. she has made her way with lightning fast speed up to my TOP 3 POI and that's moving from a firmly set place of 7th or 8th on my list of about 16 People of Interest to me with Possible Involvement to Haleigh's Disappearance and I'll finish by simply stating that in my opinion Ms.Chelsea Croslin just may indeed be the criminal that could not just move on with her life and get away with an involvement with a little girl's murder{and quite possibly a violent attack as well}..Anyone know of the tell-tale heart?...I think the heartbeat is getting louder and we are even seeing her go so far as to again uproot her young family for a move out of Mass..possibly because she thought she could leave that ever growing roar and steady sound of a heart beating..that somehow it could be left behind in the home she fled..Not so lucky were you Ms.Croslin???

jmo tho!

 

[mkay882]

So why is Chelsea trying to make out its Haliegh?

IMO because she is in full blown "cover Timmy's azz" mode.
Ain't a gonna' work forever.

 

[BigMomma]

Put it up on the big screen in the living room and it will make you down right angry at the attempt, IMO.

It is a very poor attempt and sad part is that a media journalist stooped low enough to put this out. A lot of things make me downright angry at a lot of attempts that have been going on within the Haleigh Cummings case and various members of her family/extended family and whoever wants to claim themselves as family have done absolutely nothing of value to shed light as to what happened.
I agree with poster smoothoperator. I used to think CC was genuine concerning the events of the van, she kept the media somewhat spellbound with her accounts of JO, but then after thinking about all of it, I came to the conclusion either she was talking to get in on the action as a somewhat busybody, or she needed to place herself continually in the realm of everything and sad to say, imo it reminds me of a suspect who keeps hanging around an on going investigation KWIM?

 

[Nonni Brenda]

It is a very poor attempt and sad part is that a media journalist stooped low enough to put this out. A lot of things make me downright angry at a lot of attempts that have been going on within the Haleigh Cummings case and various members of her family/extended family and whoever wants to claim themselves as family have done absolutely nothing of value to shed light as to what happened.
I agree with poster smoothoperator. I used to think CC was genuine concerning the events of the van, she kept the media somewhat spellbound with her accounts of JO, but then after thinking about all of it, I came to the conclusion either she was talking to get in on the action as a somewhat busybody, or she needed to place herself continually in the realm of everything and sad to say, imo it reminds me of a suspect who keeps hanging around an on going investigation KWIM?

I agree BigMomma...I am so angry at so many things. I am angry at Ron, TN, AS, Misty, Chelsey, Tommy, Timmy, and very angry at LE for botching this up from the beginning. I am angry at media people for not asking the right questions to the right people. I am angry with the citizens of PC for not raising hezz with LE, SA, Magistrate in that area. For Pete's sake, no wonder I am so frustrated and sick all the time carring around all this anger about this case.
:crazy::banghead::crazy::banghead::maddening::maddening:

 

[BigMomma]

I agree BigMomma...I am so angry at so many things. I am angry at Ron, TN, AS, Misty, Chelsey, Tommy, Timmy, and very angry at LE for botching this up from the beginning. I am angry at media people for not asking the right questions to the right people. I am angry with the citizens of PC for not raising hezz with LE, SA, Magistrate in that area. For Pete's sake, no wonder I am so frustrated and sick all the time carring around all this anger about this case.
:crazy::banghead::crazy::banghead::maddening::maddening:

I know nobody can lump the whole population of Satsuma in on this one, that wouldn't be fair, but at the same time, got to admit there are some choice characters that would never give anything up no matter what the cost. Maybe it's a fear factor or maybe they don't want anymore focus on their town, but somebody down there has to know something. I don't believe any in this group kept to themselves, bet they knew a lot of friends through dealings of various kinds and the ones we have seen so far couldn't hold water with their stories.
I too cannot believe that there are so many other circumstances in this that the case took on various aspects of everybody's sorrid lives and that seems to stick out more than the focus of Haleigh Cummings being taken. As far as CC goes, she did in part mention Haleigh from time to time, but for the most part her campaign was for Misty, always Misty. She never, that I know of, has ever claimed the same for her Brother in Law, Tommy and to me that is odd since apparently she is somewhat close to Tommy's ex. I guess out of sight, out of mind.

 

[Nonni Brenda]

I know nobody can lump the whole population of Satsuma in on this one, that wouldn't be fair, but at the same time, got to admit there are some choice characters that would never give anything up no matter what the cost. Maybe it's a fear factor or maybe they don't want anymore focus on their town, but somebody down there has to know something. I don't believe any in this group kept to themselves, bet they knew a lot of friends through dealings of various kinds and the ones we have seen so far couldn't hold water with their stories.
I too cannot believe that there are so many other circumstances in this that the case took on various aspects of everybody's sorrid lives and that seems to stick out more than the focus of Haleigh Cummings being taken. As far as CC goes, she did in part mention Haleigh from time to time, but for the most part her campaign was for Misty, always Misty. She never, that I know of, has ever claimed the same for her Brother in Law, Tommy and to me that is odd since apparently she is somewhat close to Tommy's ex. I guess out of sight, out of mind.

I agree cc seemed close to LC, but since LC divorced Tommy, I guess CC has no more concern for Tommy if her loyality was to Lindsay.

And you are right too that her main concern has been for Misty. She pretends to love Haleigh so much, and calls herself Auntie Chelsea...what a crock of bs. If she would do anything to help find Haleigh, why doesn't she give up whatever letters, pictures she has without expecting anything for them. If I had letters or pictures that would maybe find my niece if she was missing, I would RUN to LE with it, no thought of what I could get for it. MOO, she is all about the money.

I just don't know why these unusual people are so closed mouth about what they know about Haleigh, and certain of them have to know something.

I do think CC is a drama queen and really wants her 15 min of fame. That's why she keeps coming up with this "stuff" she comes up with.

I know I am so frostrated...I have to walk away from this case periodically...feel that coming on now...:banghead::banghead::banghead:

 

[dodie20]

Pretty much during the whole case I thought CC, maybe jealous of Misty's attention, inserted herself over & over. I thought she was lying not so much to help Misty or Ron, but so she could be a part of the drama. Now, IDK...I remember LC saying that CC& Timmy were questioned for something like 14 hours. Well, why would LE waste that much time on a drama queen? If she did just insert herself, well, that's really bad for the investigation. In other cases, when I hear about certain people pointing to false sightings or showing ridiculous proof that someone is alive, I almost always assume they're taking focus off their own involvement. Why should this case be any differently? Her story of trying to stay on the Cumming's good side, so she could go to Haleigh's funeral, was ridiculous & her 'talk' with Jr made me cringe. IDK, maybe at 1st, she didn't have much knowledge & just wanted some attention so bad & didn't see the harm in lying & exagerating. Now, I wonder how she feels...MOO.

 

[BigMomma]

I agree cc seemed close to LC, but since LC divorced Tommy, I guess CC has no more concern for Tommy if her loyality was to Lindsay.

And you are right too that her main concern has been for Misty. She pretends to love Haleigh so much, and calls herself Auntie Chelsea...what a crock of bs. If she would do anything to help find Haleigh, why doesn't she give up whatever letters, pictures she has without expecting anything for them. If I had letters or pictures that would maybe find my niece if she was missing, I would RUN to LE with it, no thought of what I could get for it. MOO, she is all about the money.

I just don't know why these unusual people are so closed mouth about what they know about Haleigh, and certain of them have to know something.

I do think CC is a drama queen and really wants her 15 min of fame. That's why she keeps coming up with this "stuff" she comes up with.

I know I am so frostrated...I have to walk away from this case periodically...feel that coming on now...:banghead::banghead::banghead:

If they were so afraid of the drug connection or lifestyles, well that cover was blown long ago.
I think it is a co-dependant type thing between CC and LC or was until somebody mentioned that CC had a letter or letters that shed some bad light on Tommy via LC. Never forgot of the visit by LC where she mentioned those 2 pairs of boots being thrown away, at the same time again she mentioned to Tommy something relaying the fact that she was not above spilling some beans to the media re her in laws and their habits, it almost sounded like blackmail. I personally do not see any love between her and Misty or anyone else, what I do see is a somewhat vendictive person or a person with a huge chip on their shoulder and has to lash out or make things up to make their own self look better-That little hijink was and is a total failure. She'll continue on until she stumbles big time.