Timmy & Chelsea Croslin; and the hours before Haleigh went missing.

[LFlorida]

I hate to annoy, but where was Chelsea from originally? [And how confident are we re: that info?]

I know I read on here that she was from Michigan back during the Amber Alert threads, but then when she moved up to Massachusetts, everybody was posting that she was from there.

I need to re-listen to some audio, I guess, because I don't recall hearing a Boston or a Michigan accent.

 

[Beatrice]

Why do you ask where Chelsea is from?

 

[Indiana at Heart]

I hate to annoy, but where was Chelsea from originally? [And how confident are we re: that info?]

I know I read on here that she was from Michigan back during the Amber Alert threads, but then when she moved up to Massachusetts, everybody was posting that she was from there.

I need to re-listen to some audio, I guess, because I don't recall hearing a Boston or a Michigan accent.

I thought her family was from Mass, but I also wondered how her and Tim hooked up if that is true.

 

[donada]

IMO it depends where in MA you live as to what accent you have. My family lives there and they don't sound like Boston more like Conn. I grew up in MA and live in FL and they laugh at mine, my brother lives in Texas and we all laugh at his. Not making fun of any accents just stating my own experience.

 

[Whisperer]

Whisp, while listening/reading the scanner thread, late last year there was a call to Crescent City to an address next to the older blind man. It was said that Tommy & Lindsey, Hank & Lisa too, I believe, lived next door at one time. I am wondering if TC & LC or the whole bunch might have lived together at that address at one time? The street was Sunglow Ave. 200 block. Not sure what TC & LC's address was. It's a short street though!

I thought Sunglow was in the San Mateo area. Dr., I have never found chelsea and timmy living in Crescent City. I have them living in Bunnell and Flagler Beach.

How did we hear about them living in Crescent City?...just curious. This could help us if we knew where they really lived.

 

[Dr. Know?]

I thought Sunglow was in the San Mateo area. Dr., I have never found chelsea and timmy living in Crescent City. I have them living in Bunnell and Flagler Beach.

How did we hear about them living in Crescent City?...just curious. This could help us if we knew where they really lived.

Well I just checked google maps and it says

Satsuma, (close to Crescent City)

I don't recall seeing that before. So it's not San Mateo nor CC only close per google maps.

If you go to the scanner thread, read the follow up thread. Grandmaj posted the call from 12/31/10 where the group had their names ran due to a 911 call. It links back to TC & LC and the theft from MM. Somewhere it says in the police report that they had been neighbors of MM. Just kind of thought maybe this rental was in someone elses name and Tim and wife lived there after TC, LC moved. I thought they did live in Crescent City per articles? Posts? (I'm old though...)

 

[Baxter]

Well I just checked google maps and it says

Satsuma, (close to Crescent City)

I don't recall seeing that before. So it's not San Mateo nor CC only close per google maps.

If you go to the scanner thread, read the follow up thread. Grandmaj posted the call from 12/31/10 where the group had their names ran due to a 911 call. It links back to TC & LC and the theft from MM. Somewhere it says in the police report that they had been neighbors of MM. Just kind of thought maybe this rental was in someone elses name and Tim and wife lived there after TC, LC moved. I thought they did live in Crescent City per articles? Posts? (I'm old though...)

From this police report, TC and CC did not live on Sunglow. It is saying it is in Satsuma. Neighbor called them when he suspected the theft.

On August 25, 2009, I made contact with Marvin (M.P.) Martin, at his residence located at 204 Sunglow Ave.

Mr. Martin advised me Hank Sr. and Lisa Croslin used to live next door to him, and he had remained friendly with
the family even after they had moved away. Mr. Martin was unable to tell me the exact day the theft occurred but
he believed it was possibly last Wednesday or Thursday (08-19-09 or 08-20-09), Lisa Croslin and Hank Croslin Jr.
had come over to his residence to use his telephone, which they did often, due to the fact there telephone at
there residence had been turned off.
Mr. Martin advised me he noticed his firearm, a Colt Army Special .38 caliber revolver missing from his bedroom,
either on Friday or Saturday he was unsure. Mr. Martin told me he called Timmy Croslin residence, the son of
Lisa Croslin. I asked Mr. Martin where Timmy Croslin lived. Mr. Croslin told me he was not sure, he only knew it
was somewhere in New Jersey. I looked through Mr. Martin's caller identification phone and located a number
he believed belonged to Timmy Croslin (774) 268-9166, but he was unsure. Mr. Martin told me he spoke with
Timmy's wife; he was unable to remember her name. Mr. Martin stated he told her "I know either Lisa or Hank
stole my gun and I want it back." I asked Mr. Martin why he was so sure one of them had stolen the firearm. Mr.
Martin told me they had been the only ones inside his residence, and he has not been anywhere since they had
been at his residence.
I asked Mr. Martin how he got the firearm back. Mr. Martin told me about two hours after he made the call, to
Timmy Croslin's wife, Lisa and Hank Croslin Sr. arrived at his house and returned the firearm to him.

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2009/images/09/16/croslin.police.report.pdf

 

[grandmaj]

In this video Nay Nay states she picked Misty up at her brother's in Pomona Park.

http://www.artharris.com/2009/04/20/exclusive-misty-cummings-pal-nay-nay-talks/

 

[Dr. Know?]

Baxter, I see it is Satsuma. When you put the address in as CC or San Mateo, or close to there, it brings the map up but I didn't read the close to San Mateo, or close to Palatka underneath the address. My goof. My apologies.

 

[Dr. Know?]

Can't find the street name in Pomona Park at all. I'll check tomorrow.

 

[Whisperer]

Color me TOTALLY CONFUSED...


(END VIDEO CLIP)

GRACE: So back to Marlaina Schiavo on the story. Marlaina, this brother who was living in Satsuma at the time Haleigh goes missing, he leaves after she goes missing. He`s relocated near where this alleged sighting took place, this sighting in the last 72 hours. And Florida police travel to Massachusetts and question him, and I understand his wife, for hours?

SCHIAVO: They do. As a matter of fact -- so tracking back, he wasn`t (ph) in Satsuma at the time when Haleigh went missing. He was actually living on the same street, staying with Misty`s other brother at the time, during this whole entire time of the investigation. Then his wife has a baby and then they moved straight to Massachusetts near her family.

GRACE: OK. Pause.

SCHIAVO: Yes.

GRACE: This is the brother living in Satsuma when Haleigh goes missing?

SCHIAVO: Correct. Both brothers were living in Satsuma at the time.

 

[Whisperer]

I have been searching for an address for Tim * Chelsea. The only places I found they lived is Bunnell and Flagler Beach. I know I heard many times they live in Crescent City but there is no support for it.

Now NG's producer is saying Timmy stayed with Tommy and Lindsy in Satsuma. This case has absolutely no consistent facts. IF Timmy stayed there that night, this whole thing has to be completely reviewed because it changes everything about the van and the calls, etc.

 

[LFlorida]

From this police report, TC and CC did not live on Sunglow. It is saying it is in Satsuma. Neighbor called them when he suspected the theft.

On August 25, 2009, I made contact with Marvin (M.P.) Martin, at his residence located at 204 Sunglow Ave.

Mr. Martin advised me Hank Sr. and Lisa Croslin used to live next door to him, and he had remained friendly with
the family even after they had moved away. Mr. Martin was unable to tell me the exact day the theft occurred but
he believed it was possibly last Wednesday or Thursday (08-19-09 or 08-20-09), Lisa Croslin and Hank Croslin Jr.
had come over to his residence to use his telephone, which they did often, due to the fact there telephone at
there residence had been turned off.
Mr. Martin advised me he noticed his firearm, a Colt Army Special .38 caliber revolver missing from his bedroom,
either on Friday or Saturday he was unsure. Mr. Martin told me he called Timmy Croslin residence, the son of
Lisa Croslin. I asked Mr. Martin where Timmy Croslin lived. Mr. Croslin told me he was not sure, he only knew it
was somewhere in New Jersey. I looked through Mr. Martin's caller identification phone and located a number
he believed belonged to Timmy Croslin (774) 268-9166, but he was unsure. Mr. Martin told me he spoke with
Timmy's wife; he was unable to remember her name. Mr. Martin stated he told her "I know either Lisa or Hank
stole my gun and I want it back." I asked Mr. Martin why he was so sure one of them had stolen the firearm. Mr.
Martin told me they had been the only ones inside his residence, and he has not been anywhere since they had
been at his residence.
I asked Mr. Martin how he got the firearm back. Mr. Martin told me about two hours after he made the call, to
Timmy Croslin's wife, Lisa and Hank Croslin Sr. arrived at his house and returned the firearm to him.

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2009/images/09/16/croslin.police.report.pdf

lol - I forgot what I was going to post. Oh well.

Thank you for posting this, though. It makes almost -0- sense to me.



Per MM:

- Not sure which day the theft occurred.

- Croslins were there Wednesday or Thursday, not sure.

- Noticed gun missing Friday or Saturday, not sure.

- Not sure where Timmy Croslin lived. Said New Jersey. (I thought it was Mass?)



Anybody think this case will stand up in court ? I'm not sure, lol.

 

[elle1919]

First page of the police report

snip~On August 25, 2009, I made contact with Marvin (M.P.) Martin, at his residence located at 204 Sunglow Ave. I
advised Mr. Martin I had received information that he was possibly the victim of a theft form his residence.

First of all....Mama Croslin don't think nothing of stealing, in my opinion and seems to consider it a source of income. She was the look out for goodness sakes, so she wanted to use the phone huh? Wonder why she brought Tommy with her.

2nd of all, the part of the statement that I bolded....this MM did not seek out the police, the police sought out MM. For what reason? Tommy Croslin.

I think this will stand up in court, especially considering they have 3 or 4 other cases of burglary against him to compare it to. If I am on the jury it wouldn't matter 1 bit to me that this poor man was unsure of when the gun was stolen what will matter most is this
snip~I asked Mr. Martin how he got the firearm back. Mr. Martin told me about two hours after he made the call, to
Timmy Croslin's wife, Lisa and Hank Croslin Sr. arrived at his house and returned the firearm to him. I asked Mr.
Martin who he thought had stolen his firearm, Lisa or Hank Jr .. Mr. Croslin said that Lisa told him that Hank Jr.
Had stolen the firearm, but he was not sure which one of them had stolen the firearm.~ end

Lisa told on Tommy...hmmm, what else does she know?

 

[Beatrice]

Has it been proven as fact, that Misty made a 10pm call to Timmy/Tommy
or both at one house?

If Haleigh was left alone in the master bedroom watching videos, this would be the time Misty would have come upon her...Misty's bedtime.

 

[Whisperer]

Nay Nay says she picked up misty mid-week. So they had more than a weekend for sex, drugs, etc. He have only heard of Fri, Sat.

Does rc work on Fridays? Looks like misty was missing in action for a little more than 2 days....as most of us suspected.

So who was watching the children the week before. Drats, no wonder the LE have to keep going back...in time.

As far as San Mateo dr goes, I believe it is off HWY 17 going north from Hoot Owl. Ron and Crystal used to live there.

 

[elle1919]

I thought Sunglow was in the San Mateo area. Dr., I have never found chelsea and timmy living in Crescent City. I have them living in Bunnell and Flagler Beach.

How did we hear about them living in Crescent City?...just curious. This could help us if we knew where they really lived.

Well now you got me thinking. Where did we hear about Crescent City? Grr. I have always thought they were from Crescent City, sheesh where did I hear this info? I will have to go and look it up now, this is like when I can't find something in my house and it bugs me and then I can't stop looking for it until I get my hands on it!

one thing though, another poster said on the "cousin" thread that locals called Crescent City ....Pomona Park...
post here: Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - The cousin that visited....

post what locals said: Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - The cousin that visited....

aren't these two separate places? I googled mapped both locations and they don't look to be the same place. :waitasec:
map here: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&sou...-81.510629&sspn=0.013325,0.01929&ie=UTF8&z=13

if you look at that map....I don't like that area at all....the water!! Wonder if this lake was searched...

 

[Whisperer]

Yeah, I heard Crescent City, Pomona Park and Lake Como all used interchangebly. I still have no listing of the Croslings living in any of those places. Not living there complicates things....don't know how far Flagler or Bunnell is and am not able to research it at the moment. On the map you linked I see that Flagler and Bunnell are directly EAST of Crescent City. Looks like you have to cross water to get there. Flagler looks like it sits on the Atlantic.

 

[LFlorida]

Check out this video at exactly 7:32 - is this Chelsea? I always thought it was, but that woman looks much different than the ones in other photos/videos I've seen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_uWaPV_GzM

tia

compare to this woman

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lc61AO1APc4

 

[Quiche]

That woman gets into the front seat of the detective's car at the beginning of the clip-- made me think she is LE. Idk, I thought Chelsea was tall and very lean with darker hair?