TKS S1 Ep 3: "Danse Macabre"

[Dottie72]

Did the footage from the funeral (with the father pointing into the camera talking to the killer) appear on the local news at the time???

That was the family attorney not SG's father.

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[msvick66]

What if JB brought Pak inside to kill him? There is one male victim out there and some in Manorville. When Pak gets in the house, Pak said he went to grab her in an odd way, but then they see she is on the phone with 911. This screwed up his intentions. She runs out of the house while on the phone. Something sets him off perhaps to kill these girls--I think he has a racial trigger. Shannan was biracial and the others either had children or relatives that were biracial. LISK called Melissa's sister a half-breed. He called her pimp too and used the 'n' word if I'm not mistaken. Maybe he has a big problem with that and this is what sends him into a rage. He looks through their phone and finds pics, or finds out they have a boyfriend of another race that he doesn't like.

What if JB got Hackett to make the call as a favor (he wouldn't have known anyone was dead, just that a family of an escort might be coming around their nice little neighborhood and who wants that, or what if he gave JB drugs to party on and JB told Hackett she freaked out and it's his fault, so put him up to trying to get the family to back off by this phone call?) I'm sure he would have told the cops if this was true, but they also would tell him to keep it quiet. They don't have anything on JB because the bodies were too decomposed, maybe they don't want him to know they suspect him. Maybe Hackett is also scared of JB if he thinks he is involved. I give credit to Shannan. I believe her when she called 911 and said someone in that house was trying to kill her, and then she winds up dead.

 

[Barbie619]

(What did you just say to me? Jk. Flukeyou? Wtfluke kind of site is that? What is this link before I click on it, tia.)

That's so funny! I use to go to that site and it's since been shut down. I had no idea flukeyou was who he is.... I wasn't comfortable at that website, I always felt like LISK was there and happily posting away. LISK.com

 

[Barbie619]

I couldn't believe John Ray did that performance at SG's funeral, what was he thinking? Why did the family film the graveside service? That was as terrible as it looked.

A couple of observations on these two episodes: This is a very interesting take on these open cases, it makes me want to see more, to know more, to help! I think Josh and Rachel need to get thicker skins, they are looking for serial killer's, the conditions and the people they will need to be in touch with are living on the edge's of society. Get use to those conditions and stop acting fearful....... That's when bad things happen, when you show your fear.

Cynical is a red herring to me. He's familar with his information from his own personal experiences on the dark side. His leads are truly a Dead End.

I'm so glad that Denise Hill is doing well and got clean. She is probably the only credible witness to who the killer is in AC. Her story never changes. Even during her darkest hour of addiction and street work, she tells the same story. Her fear is real.

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Those who are in power in all these cases seem to be corrupt in one way or another and I just don't get it. Have they forgotten that they are Public Servants and the citizens are the Masters? We the people are also the wealth of information that these servants need, yet we are kept out of the loop. How can that be changed? We the people hold the power, the power of numbers, we outnumber these public servants, we fund them with our taxes, we NEED a voice too.

 

[Barbie619]

It's hard for me to see Mari Gilbert ...

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I thought it was just me that felt that way, it's very sad. :tears:

 

[Barbie619]

He's right! There's no way she would have "run in to the marsh and got lost" unless someone was at least chasing her. She can SEE the water from almost anywhere until getting in to the reeds. To go in to the reeds, she was very likely been chased.

Those reeds are 5X worse in the spring/summer months. Josh & Rachel went in during the winter months when they are died back. Shannan did not go running into those marshes on her own, I'll never believe that.

 

[Danse_Macabre]

Those reeds are 5X worse in the spring/summer months. Josh & Rachel went in during the winter months when they are died back. Shannan did not go running into those marshes on her own, I'll never believe that.

We actually went in early May... Same time of year Shannan Gilbert went missing.
-Rachel

 

[margarita25]

Good morning veveryone. :coffee:

I am here with fresh eyes this morning to watch this episode. I am taking some rough notes with questions and comments, then will go back and catch up here on the thread.

 

[janda13]

[FONT=&quot]New to forums but I have been following the LISK case for a very long time. I wasn't sure if it was ok for me to ask about why the [/FONT]Dr that called Shannon's mother[FONT=&quot] was not looked into? I truly believe that he killed her and might have killed many of the other girls.[/FONT]

 

[tarabull]

Did the footage from the funeral (with the father pointing into the camera talking to the killer) appear on the local news at the time???

That was the family attorney not SG's father.

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Thanks!

Did the footage from the funeral (with the family attorney pointing into the camera talking to the killer) appear on the local news at the time of the funeral??? Is it possible the killer saw THAT --- pointing at him --- before last night (<<<IF he were watching)?

 

[observation]

Been following along here more recently with the start of TKS. I just wanted to say that this series is by far the best true crime I've ever seen. Josh and Rachel are not only producing an amazing show but get right in on following up, since LE in AC and LI are so hush, hush. The fact that Daytona LE are more willing to share, makes me feel it's not related. I had no idea these women were being killed over that many years. Scary and alarming. Crowd sourcing is the way to go to get this killer (s) behind bars.


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[Barbie619]

We actually went in early May... Same time of year Shannan Gilbert went missing.
-Rachel

I stand corrected, thanks for pointing that out Rachel. :blushing:

 

[Corpsetennant]

Has anyone checked the string of murdered women in Ohio to see if they match the mo of women in long island

 

[tarabull]

Thanks!

Did the footage from the funeral (with the family attorney pointing into the camera talking to the killer) appear on the local news at the time of the funeral??? Is it possible the killer saw THAT --- pointing at him --- before last night (<<<IF he were watching)?

Quoting myself again, sorry everyone

margarita25...thanks for the still shots...

you have me :thinking:

would you be able to catch a screen grab of the attorney speaking to, while pointing (directly in the camera at the killer) & post it???

:blushing:

TIA

 

[Barbie619]

Thanks!

Did the footage from the funeral (with the family attorney pointing into the camera talking to the killer) appear on the local news at the time of the funeral??? Is it possible the killer saw THAT --- pointing at him --- before last night (<<<IF he were watching)?

I never saw this footage locally. It disgusted me really, but my own personal location is smack between LI & AC and I'm minutes from NYC, I believe I would have seen or heard about this. However, SG and her family live in Upstate NY (which is very close to where I work) and it would make it more local to Upstate NY news and not necessarily NYC/NJ.....

 

[twocuriouscats]

Have to jump in and say I just finished episode 3. Wow Rachel, you are so brave to get in that truck (you too Josh)! HUGE respect for you guys...Thanks!

 

[margarita25]

Quoting myself again, sorry everyone

margarita25...thanks for the still shots...

you have me :thinking:

would you be able to catch a screen grab of the attorney speaking to, while pointing (directly in the camera at the killer) & post it???

:blushing:

TIA

 

[margarita25]

That's so funny! I use to go to that site and it's since been shut down. I had no idea flukeyou was who he is.... I wasn't comfortable at that website, I always felt like LISK was there and happily posting away. LISK.com

I just realized what you guys were talking about re: flukeyou...I just now saw this on episode 3. Earlier I was like what's this flukeyou business? Newbie to this case...)

I just posted fwiw in the GP thread that in this episode ithat says it is 14 miles to Egg Harbor, where the AC4 were found, to AC, so I'm wondering if 14 miles might somehow have any significance to the GB4.

 

[mysteryattic]

Does the suspected River Guy identifiec by Denise Hill have the initials MH? He would be on his midsixties by now.

 

[Damarna]

Have to jump in and say I just finished episode 3. Wow Rachel, you are so brave to get in that truck (you too Josh)! HUGE respect for you guys...Thanks!

I will admit I yelled, " Don't do it!"

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