GUILTY TN - CT, 9, Rogersville, 4 May 2016 #3

[katydid23]

I was sad to see the video of C. playing today. There is so much we don't know about her. Is she a people pleaser? Would she be assertive to say that she does not want to talk about the ordeal or no?

She has just had a scary event happen to her. Lies. being out in the woods so close but so far away from her life, and whatever else. She is probably experiencing a mixture of emotions. Will she feel good today, have nightmares tonight? Will she feel good for two years and lose it when it is time to go away to camp? None of us know. I hope she is getting help even if seems like she is doing great--playing and back to business as usual. When I worked with rape survivors, many would keep saying there were okay and they would power on through. Trigger events would wreck them. Other survivors are a mess at first and slowly build back toward stable and their norm. We just don't know. I hope her parents are getting counseling advice based on her history, the incident, and her developmental age.

My uncle babysat my brothers and I after school, while my Mom worked, after her divorce. My uncle would have me on my bed, with his hands in my panties, and we's hear my Mom's car in the driveway. He'd carry me quickly down the hall and into the living room, and sit me by my little brother, watching cartoons. When my Mom came in, I would be so relieved, so happy that she was home, that I'd smile big and act happy as a clam/


Years later when I told her that her brother molested me since I was 5, for a few years, she was shocked. You always seemed happy and seemed like everything was fine. It is hard to explain, but our tiny child minds do not process things like a mature adult might. I thought my Mom had enough problems, with her divorce, and finding a job, and caring for us. I didn't want to make trouble by telling her what was happening after school. And I thought that if I told, my Dad would be so angry, he would KILL my uncle. And I already missed My Dad so much. then I'd never see him. So I kept it a dirty secret--just like my uncle told me to.

 

[LaborDayRN]

My uncle babysat my brothers and I after school, while my Mom worked, after her divorce. My uncle would have me on my bed, with his hands in my panties, and we's hear my Mom's car in the driveway. He'd carry me quickly down the hall and into the living room, and sit me by my little brother, watching cartoons. When my Mom came in, I would be so relieved, so happy that she was home, that I'd smile big and act happy as a clam/


Years later when I told her that her brother molested me since I was 5, for a few years, she was shocked. You always seemed happy and seemed like everything was fine. It is hard to explain, but our tiny child minds do not process things like a mature adult might. I thought my Mom had enough problems, with her divorce, and finding a job, and caring for us. I didn't want to make trouble by telling her what was happening after school. And I thought that if I told, my Dad would be so angry, he would KILL my uncle. And I already missed My Dad so much. then I'd never see him. So I kept it a dirty secret--just like my uncle told me to.

:hug:

 

[KaaBoom]

I wouldn't be surprised if the Judge makes the bond higher come Monday.

This guy may be fooling some of the commenters on social media but IMO, LE/TBI/FBI and the DA has his number and knows this wasn't about being a good guy. If he has a computer then they may have uncovered further evidence.

The FBI doesn't put someone on their 10 Most Wanted list when it is only a custodial issue.

IMO

Do you have a link to him being on the FBI’s 10 Most Wanted list, from an official source? Here is the list, I don’t see him on it, and I don’t see him on the list of names that have been removed.

FBI - Ten Most Wanted

 

[Conor91]

It was the TBI's ten most wanted.

https://www.tn.gov/tbi/section/tbis-top-10-most-wanted

 

[Jamaica Me Crazy]

I think you all need to stop busting on Carpenter.

 

[KaaBoom]

Regarding people giving the guy the benefit of the doubt, I think it's a combination of the internet being filled with teeny boppers who have no life experience yet know everything and people these days being SO afraid to judge or be accused of being judgmental. It's so silly.

I’m not a "teeny bopper". I’m well beyond that age, but I still believe in giving everybody the benefit of a doubt. If that’s a “teeny bopper” thing, then more power to the “teeny boppers”, because this country was founded on the principle that everybody is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. I don’t think that principle is a silly one.

 

[smoothcheetos]

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=12554145

Thank you! I missed that.

 

[ArianeEmory]

Thank you! I missed that.

(Careful, it appears we are not allowed to discuss this.)

 

[KaaBoom]

It was the TBI's ten most wanted.

https://www.tn.gov/tbi/section/tbis-top-10-most-wanted

Thats the TBI’s list, not the FBI’s Ten Most Wanted. Thats a big, big, big, difference. Looking at that list, it’s pretty obvious what criteria gets someone added to the list. 1. Murder 2. Any crime against a child.

This case involved the kidnapping of a child, hence he is on the list. It doesn’t mean anything more then that.

 

[SCHMAE]

Redacting the name doesn't mean every site will scrub it from their pages or that no one remembers. It's a courtesy. In the case of AH , that was over a year long and a huge, nationwide manhunt. There was literally no way to remove the name from every page it was ever on. Many outlets do refer to her by initials now but probably not all. Same with Elizabeth Smart. There are some instances where it is impossible to not know who this CHILD is. But in a case where it is possible to protect them, even a little, I'm all for it. Some outlets will not even refer to them by initials and I like that even better. There was a case in CA a few years back of a girl stolen from her room and pretty quickly released. Her image was on live tv when found. Immediately her name was redacted because of what she suffered while missing. And immediately I forgot her name and I'm glad. I would not recall her name if I saw it in print right now because within maybe 1 day of her being taken, the name was redacted. So , if removing the name makes even half the public forget the name, then that is a good thing. It's not like the pre internet days when a victim's name would not be known to the entire world from the day they went missing. Privacy is near impossible these days and where child victims are concerned, every little bit WE can offer them is a good thing. My two cents.

 

[JeannaT]

So I think publishing the video of Carlie and her sister on the trampoline and the hula hoop will fill a HUGE need in the public, and a lot of curiosity in the public has now been satisfied and hopefully the public will back off and let her family recover in peace. It IS gratifying - brought tears to my eyes - to see this girl do a flip on her trampoline and twirl her hoola hoop. You just think, Thank God, all that monumental effort paid off and look at that dear romping in her yard with her sister. Very gratifying.

But I do think now she will live the childhood of little Jessica who was pulled from the well in Midland Texas while the world watched, dug, engineered, and prayed. She will forever be "Baby Jessica" in her community, and Carlie will forever be little Carlie who was whisked out of school by her crazy uncle and the community came together to search for the needle in the haystack to rescue her. And they did. ;D

 

[kaen]

My uncle babysat my brothers and I after school, while my Mom worked, after her divorce. My uncle would have me on my bed, with his hands in my panties, and we's hear my Mom's car in the driveway. He'd carry me quickly down the hall and into the living room, and sit me by my little brother, watching cartoons. When my Mom came in, I would be so relieved, so happy that she was home, that I'd smile big and act happy as a clam/


Years later when I told her that her brother molested me since I was 5, for a few years, she was shocked. You always seemed happy and seemed like everything was fine. It is hard to explain, but our tiny child minds do not process things like a mature adult might. I thought my Mom had enough problems, with her divorce, and finding a job, and caring for us. I didn't want to make trouble by telling her what was happening after school. And I thought that if I told, my Dad would be so angry, he would KILL my uncle. And I already missed My Dad so much. then I'd never see him. So I kept it a dirty secret--just like my uncle told me to.

I am sorry you went through what you did. Sadly, your story is not dissimilar to many who have experienced abuse. After the first encounters, many children feel that they will destroy their family, make significant caregivers angry, and more. A smiling face or a happy, playing child does not mean that they are fine after they have been through trauma--sexual or otherwise.

 

[Jilllian]

I’m not a "teeny bopper". I’m well beyond that age, but I still believe in giving everybody the benefit of a doubt. If that’s a “teeny bopper” thing, then more power to the “teeny boppers”, because this country was founded on the principle that everybody is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. I don’t think that principle is a silly one.

Except there was clear evidence to believe that Carlie was in imminent danger of physical harm and/or death at the hands of her uncle in this case. Benefit of the doubt goes out the window quickly here.

 

[nomoresorrow]

He did nothing to set the record straight. When asked about how he rescued the girl, he simply answered each question and said that LE didn’t want him to talk about it. I suspect that no LEO asked him not to talk about it. He couldn’t answer the questions, because he wasn’t there, and didn’t know the answers to the questions. He was off searching someplace else.

In the grand scheme of things, big deal about this guy! The "bigger" deal is G.A.R.Y. S.I.M.P.S.O.N. - the one who deviously kidnapped CT and held her captive for 8 days...
(reality check)

 

[oceanblueeyes]

I have a hard time catching up, may I ask a question before I respond - did the family invite the press over to take pictures/video of CT, or did the press 'camp out' and shoot their footage wherever they could get it without being invited or specifically allowed by CT's family?

I think the media camped out. Media can be very insensitive and intrusive just to get a story. They knew eventually she would be coming home and imo, they were there waiting like vultures. Many families don't know how to control the media and will give in to interviews just to make them go away.

IMO

 

[Gabby66]

I dont' think I've seen this posted here yet. Video interview of couple to whose house Carlie was taken immediately after she was found: http://wjhl.com/2016/05/13/hawkins-...l&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer

 

[JeannaT]

I think the media camped out. Media can be very insensitive and intrusive just to get a story. They knew eventually she would be coming home and imo, they were there waiting like vultures. Many families don't know how to control the media and will give in to interviews just to make them go away.

IMO

I think the public has a compelling right to know that C is at least, on the surface, healthy. And I also think the video is very cute, and would have been approved by family. They must be tremendously grateful to the whole community there for rallying as they did, and searching day and night for this precious child.

And now, I don't see any further video being shot or any need to. As many times as i've thought the media was heartless and intrusive, this video doesn't look that way to me. It looks sweet and caring. And respectful.

 

[JeannaT]

I dont' think I've seen this posted here yet. Video interview of couple to whose house C was taken immediately after she was found: http://wjhl.com/2016/05/13/hawkins-...l&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer

Love that. What sweet people the Sizemores are.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

I think the public has a compelling right to know that C is at least, on the surface, healthy. And I also think the video is very cute, and would have been approved by family. They must be tremendously grateful to the whole community there for rallying as they did, and searching day and night for this precious child.

And now, I don't see any further video being shot or any need to. As many times as i've thought the media was heartless and intrusive, this video doesn't look that way to me. It looks sweet and caring. And respectful.

I agree, Jeanna. I am sure they felt obligated to the media since they have done so much for C and her family by keeping the story out there.

I remember once Shasta was released from the hospital she was there with her daddy when they were being interviewed.

I think families in these situations knows how much the media can help in cases like this, and are very thankful. I also agree, now that they have their interview they will most likely go away, and let C, and her family have the privacy they deserve.

But whether they wanted them there are not it wouldn't stop the media from getting shots of C returning home.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Well, we can’t discuss that here. So people can investigate the family history elsewhere, if they care to.



Well, I agree with you on one thing. I don’t think any additional charges are coming on Monday.

I will leave that up to others who are interested. I am not really into gossip or anonymous comments when it is known they make up bald face lies and are attention seekers.

All I care about is she was returned home to her father and family and that would have never happened if she was in any danger now. I have kept up with enough of these cases to know the child will not be returned to their family if they think they are in danger. That didn't happen here nor did I ever think it would. The only relevant history is the past year when her daddy has had custody of both of his daughters and both still reside with him in his home.

Yes, no additional charges will be added on Monday. The DA has a long time to add additional charges, but like the TBI Director said he does expect additional charges to be filed and I agree 100% with him.