TN - Holly Bobo, 20, Darden, believed abducted 13 April 2011 - # 1

[mysticrose]

So I wonder if it's true that the brother called 911 - and did he really wait an hour or not? The sheriff said they responded immediately so he wouldn't have had an hour, kwim?

I do know what you mean. Where did the hour wait time frame come from again? Was it a msm link or a post somewhere ......

 

[Cubby]

Gosh, Cubby, I sure am glad that I am not the only one who had those thoughts regarding the brother.

None of his story nor timeline make sense to me--absolutely NONE of it.

I agree the timeline is questionable. Home invasion at 7:30 in the morning?

 

[krista]

So I wonder if it's true that the brother called 911 - and did he really wait an hour or not? The sheriff said they responded immediately so he wouldn't have had an hour, kwim?

The sheriff's comments were confusing in regards to the timeline, IMHO.
He says that he 'got a call at 7:30am' regarding the abduction.....but we've been told by other sources that the call didn't come until an hour later. So, was the first call exactly at 7:30am?? Anyway, he later says that Holly left the house between 7:15-7:30 every morning for school. So, if LE was contacted AT 7:30, and 'came to the scene immediately', that wouldn't give the kidnapper much time.....BUT
why would the brother bother to call LE an hour later, at 8:30, if LE were already on the scene?

 

[thesaint]

Sheriff Wyatt sounds like he is breaking down emotionally. Poor guy. He has a lot on his shoulders.
I'm questioning why he is so open with the media about their investigation.....about not having 'any idea' what happened, who's involved, or why.
I realize that they don't have any clue....but should he be saying that to the media?
Then later, he says that all of the other agencies are out there because he has no clue what they are dealing with and they are just trying to cover all of their bases.

I just feel like the kidnapper shouldn't know any of that. MOO.

Yes, I agree. The sheriff's demeanor, as much as his words, led me to try to imagine scenarios in which this is not a simple kidnapping by an obsessed man. And the 100 LEO on the scene helped push it that way. Terrorism? doesn't seem likely. Some sort of serial killer? Potentially. Perhaps some strange cult thing? maybe. Drug dealers trying to
collect a debt or protect turf? Potentially. The stories out of Mexico are harrowing, to say the least.

I dunno. It doesn't seem as simple as an obsessed person abducting the target of their obsession.

 

[mysticrose]

Let me confuse us somemore :angel: I wonder if the neighbor who heard the screaming called first and maybe LE was a little slow to respond thinking ahh, and then an hour later brother called and they came over immiedatley due to the first call.... just speculating

 

[Cubby]

If the call came in at 7:30 am and it was an hour after the brother saw HB being dragged into the woods wouldn't it be likely Holly's mother would still be home at 6:30am?

So if the hour is true and not rumor did the brother call at 8:30am after showering?

Lots of questions which will be revealed in time.....

off to bed :bedtime:

Praying Holly is found soon and hoping beyond all odds she is found safely.

 

[belimom]

Again, I may be over-reacting, but I always see a red flag when LE says someone is helping or cooperating (as if they don't know what else to say about that person) - especially when not releasing what was said in the 911 call.

C**** Bobo was home when he saw Holly being dragged across the carport, authorities said, but they haven't revealed what he told a 911 operator or provided much other detail. All they have said is that he is helping investigators.

http://www.kmtv.com/story/14449736/tn-dad-says-whoever-abducted-daughter-knew-routine

 

[belimom]

Let me confuse us somemore :angel: I wonder if the neighbor who heard the screaming called first and maybe LE was a little slow to respond thinking ahh, and then an hour later brother called and they came over immiedatley due to the first call.... just speculating

That's what I was wondering as well. (deleted - I think it was a FB rumor so I don't want to spread it if it's not true). I think I'm reading an awful lot into the brother's delay in calling 911.

 

[VicVixvi]

I dunno. It doesn't seem as simple as an obsessed person abducting the target of their obsession.

I'm at the opposite end of the spectrum ... I think it is exactly that simple. When I first read this case, I envisioned a mountain man type coming down to claim his 'bride', most likely due to the remoteness of the area and the vast expanses of national & state forests nearby. I now lean more to an acquaintance abduction. Someone who has known and watched her for quite some time. Most likely someone from her church or school. JMHO.

 

[cluciano63]

Again, I may be over-reacting, but I always see a red flag when LE says someone is helping or cooperating (as if they don't know what else to say about that person) - especially when not releasing what was said in the 911 call.

Me too...that is what police said about the husband of the nurse who was shot in her home a few months ago...only to eventually charge him with the murder. And countless others.

 

[revampz]

hi guys...have just come home and read this thread from the beginning.....I think the neighbour called 911 first....that is what the first reports said, and then it sounds like the brother thought she was with the boyfriend and then maybe saw the blood and called 911.

Anyhow there is way more to this for sure. I too find it very interesting when the police say that someone (in this case the brother) is co operating, and then they also wont release what else he said in the 911 call.....hmmmm am thinking both the brother and the police know a bit more than is being told to the public.

And they are searching the house?????

one possibility is maybe the brother has drug debts, drug dealing etc and someone came to confront him and took the sister to get at him.......

she is a very beautiful girl that's for sure.

 

[MsFacetious]

Nothing makes sense, just like a drug issue doesn't make sense.

If this was a drug issue I have a few questions.

Why no ransom demand if that is what they are after?

Why not a higher reward if that is what LE/family are convinced has happened?

Why not just kill her and leave her in the woods if you are trying to send a message?

Demanding money or leaving the body close to be found are pretty typical of drug conflicts. This just doesn't really fit. The only thing that does fit with a revenge/debt kidnapping is how upset LE seems by this. If they have gotten horrible, threatening messages, which might deeply upset them. Other than that, nothing makes sense.

I really don't think we can make any type of educated guess, until we hear straight from the brother what happened. We are hearing too many stories and it just doesn't make sense.

 

[katydid23]

Nothing makes sense, just like a drug issue doesn't make sense.

If this was a drug issue I have a few questions.

Why no ransom demand if that is what they are after?

Why not a higher reward if that is what LE/family are convinced has happened?

Why not just kill her and leave her in the woods if you are trying to send a message?

Demanding money or leaving the body close to be found are pretty typical of drug conflicts. This just doesn't really fit. The only thing that does fit with a revenge/debt kidnapping is how upset LE seems by this. If they have gotten horrible, threatening messages, which might deeply upset them. Other than that, nothing makes sense.

I really don't think we can make any type of educated guess, until we hear straight from the brother what happened. We are hearing too many stories and it just doesn't make sense.

There might be a ransom demand that we don't know about. I hope so anyway.

 

[sophclown]

I think that an ex-boyfriend of Holly is possible for her abduction. An ex would know what time Holly was going to leave the house, the routine of the other family members, and where to leave his vehicle away from her house so know one would see it. It would be more logical to assume that it was an enraged ex boyfriend than a stranger in this place in Tennessee. After watching Holly's father in the press conference I suspect that he already knows who took his daughter and I do not think Holly's brother had anything to do with her abduction. Mr Bobo repeated over that someone knew their routine. That somebody has to be close to Holly and her family and the neighborhood. I hope and pray that Holly will be found safely, however, I do not have a good feeling about this abduction. It may turn out to be a murder/suicide by an ex, or a male friend close to Holly.

 

[MsFacetious]

Also I should clarify with my above post, there is no reason to think there is drug involvement. I would personally be SHOCKED if there was. It's been a long time since I could not find anything remotely disturbing on a missing person's facebook, or even a friend's facebook! A bikini was the worst thing I found. Not so much as a beer with these people. :waitasec:

However, since nothing really seems probable in this case I figured it was worth pointing out the reasons that doesn't make sense either.

It is also worth pointing out that Venus Stewart was grabbed as soon as she stepped out of her house... by her estranged husband. She had a chance to scream then was put in a headlock which caused her nose to bleed.

http://www.mlive.com/news/kalamazoo/index.ssf/2011/03/witness_describes_how_doug_ste.html

I can believe Holly was grabbed. It is the rest of the confusing story that I am lost about.

There might be a ransom demand that we don't know about. I hope so anyway.

I thought about there possibly being a ransom demand as well. But we haven't seen any signs of communication with abductors... and if it was through the reward, do you think it'd only be for $25,000?

That seems low to me for a ransom... but maybe I watch too many crime shows and people will abduct a girl for a $500 ransom or something? :innocent:

How much blood was found would also be nice to know. Large amounts would likely indicate a head wound or artery. She wasn't in that carport for very long. Is the blood for sure hers? They do a lot of hunting there.

Did the brother SEE blood as she was being dragged/strolling away into the woods? She was blonde and wearing light clothes so it should have showed up easily.

Was she chloroformed?

Was she put in a headlock?

Was she hit over the head to knock her out?

Was she fighting as she was going into the woods, or unconscious?

See, there are SO many things we don't know.

 

[hollye]

Okay, a couple of thoughts from overnight...

If the brother did not call 911 for an hour, what the heck was he doing for that hour? That is a huge red flag to me. It makes me wonder if he is actually the abducter for some reason.

Also, is it assumed that the guy in these photos is her boyfriend or is it known? I ahve not had a chance to research today, but when I briefly looked at some yesterday before they froze my PC, I was of the impression that it was her brother in the photos. They look similar to me. I have not seen known photos of either her brother or her boyfriend to compare yet.

 

[belimom]

Here's an updated article:

bbm

Speaking to MailOnline Sheriff Roy Wyatt said: 'At this time we are still in the early stages of the investigation.

'It is not clear yet how the kidnapper escaped from the woods.

'I would like to thank the volunteers out helping us with searches- we are a rural county and without their help I don't know how we would cope with something like this.'
Sheriff Wyatt would not comment on why Holly's brother was unable to pursue the kidnapper.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ncans-cousin-abducted-home.html#ixzz1JakWYf75

Maybe the kidnapper did not 'escape' from the woods...

 

[scorekeeper]

They ran a story on the Today Show this morning. The mother was so heartbroken she had to be escorted/helped to her car. They are still searching the woods and surrounding area. Her dad felt it was someone that knew the family routine and may have been watching. Sorry, don't have much information, but I was so overwhelmed with watching the mother (so unlike BJD in the Hailey Dunn case) that I didn't catch everything said.

So sad. Hope they have good luck today searching and pray for safe return.

JMO

 

[belimom]

Okay, a couple of thoughts from overnight...

If the brother did not call 911 for an hour, what the heck was he doing for that hour? That is a huge red flag to me. It makes me wonder if he is actually the abducter for some reason.

Also, is it assumed that the guy in these photos is her boyfriend or is it known? I ahve not had a chance to research today, but when I briefly looked at some yesterday before they froze my PC, I was of the impression that it was her brother in the photos. They look similar to me. I have not seen known photos of either her brother or her boyfriend to compare yet.

I agree about the brother. But the person in the picture is the BF, I think. I saw a fuzzy pic of the brother on FB and I don't believe that's him in those pictures. MOO

 

[belimom]

If she was bleeding and had been dragged through the carport to the woods and then through the woods, it seems like dogs should be easy to track that scent - quite easily. Even if the kidnapper put her on an ATV that was parked somewhere, the scent may get fainter there but there should be a scent at least to the point, if not beyond.

The sheriff said they have had dogs out there. So what did the dogs pick up? Anything?

The fact that the sheriff is now saying that they don't know how the kidnapper escaped the woods makes me wonder if the dogs tracked anything. JMHO