cluciano63
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I also do not think this is more than one abductor. Would be very surprised if it turns out to be otherwise, if we ever know, that is.
IDK im blonde and suck at math.
I THINK its the second day?
I have a god idea too. Maybe they are not telling local LE because local LE can't keep a secret?????
was just talking to a buddy in law enforcement that has absolutely no connection to this case at all, whatsoever and is in an entirely different state.
But his point was interesting that in some cases especially in rural areas the reason things are kept quiet by agencies like the TBI, CBI, State Police/AG is because they aren't just trying to keep information from suspects but also from local enforcement/authorities etc.
When I was younger a friend of mine crashed a car and someone we all knew and loved died in the accident. We all knew the real story behind the accident as we were there but magically the richest and most connected family in town had all the records vanish from the hospital for the driver. They were "lost" so there was no way of convicting the driver of doing what this person was doing. Instead the families of the victims were paid and the driver got a few years probation. I remember there being a lot of anger at the time.
I wonder if something along those lines is in play here on either a religious angle, local authorities and what not.
This is MOO, but I really think TBI must have a vewwy vewwy good reason for not releasing those 911 calls. And I find it even more intriguing that they woen't even identify who made the other call. Only that it was a woman. Now clearly, they have their reasons for keeping that to themselves. I can't imagine why they wouldn't admit it if it was the Mom who called. So I begin to think the caller or the call must be more interesting than that. Either the call came from Holly herself,someone that hasn't yet been identified as a witness to something or perhaps the "neighbor" not only heard the scream but also saw something they don't want released yet.
I would be interested in hearing your thoughts about that angle. Thanks,
It's funny you should say this. When I asked my husband what he thought of the term powderkeg, his first response was along the lines of politically/socially touchy subjects. Then he went on to say, it's when you don't want things to blow up in your face by not being carefull with what you say. Lastly he said that they wouldn't want to endanger the victim by releasing the wrong information.
Do we know which private land was searched, around the area, and which was not? If anyone refused a search, I would think it would send up huge red flags, to TBI, as well as to the community, no?
Hmm.. transparency in government. Well, do I think we should know how government is spending our money? Yes. Do I think we should know whenever elected officials meet and that they should not get to make backroom deals that are crooked? Yes. But do I think tranparency in government also means the police should have to tell me the details about a criminal case? No, my feelings about transparency don't go that far. Otherwise, we could have an Olymphic Park Bomber situation on our hands. Your mileage may vary of course.
As to the press, I have long thought the press acts rather like a pack of dogs. They chase a bone to one end of the room, barking away. Then someone pulls out a juicier bone and they all take off the other direction, still barking away. I don't think we can depend on them to help clarify much, if anything.
However, I do think when TBI is ready and has all their ducks in the proverbial row, most of our questions will be answered.
I have a good idea too. Maybe they are not telling local LE because local LE can't keep a secret?????
I have a good idea too. Maybe they are not telling local LE because local LE can't keep a secret?????
This is MOO, but I really think TBI must have a vewwy vewwy good reason for not releasing those 911 calls. And I find it even more intriguing that they woen't even identify who made the other call. Only that it was a woman. Now clearly, they have their reasons for keeping that to themselves. I can't imagine why they wouldn't admit it if it was the Mom who called. So I begin to think the caller or the call must be more interesting than that. Either the call came from Holly herself, someone that hasn't yet been identified as a witness to something or perhaps the "neighbor" not only heard the scream but also saw something they don't want released yet.
I would be interested in hearing your thoughts about that angle. Thanks,
It's funny you should say this. When I asked my husband what he thought of the term powderkeg, his first response was along the lines of politically/socially touchy subjects. Then he went on to say, it's when you don't want things to blow up in your face by not being carefull with what you say. Lastly he said that they wouldn't want to endanger the victim by releasing the wrong information.
Not sure if this has already been mentioned ( I read all the threads, but with all the info its hard to keep track) but from what I've googled :rocker:,
911 calls in TN are public record. They are trying to pass a law to seal them, but I didn't find anything that stated it had been passed. Does anyone know if this is true? If so, how can LE deny access to them?
Not sure if this has already been mentioned ( I read all the threads, but with all the info its hard to keep track) but from what I've googled :rocker:,
911 calls in TN are public record. They are trying to pass a law to seal them, but I didn't find anything that stated it had been passed. Does anyone know if this is true? If so, how can LE deny access to them?
In what way? A fellow student?
was just talking to a buddy in law enforcement that has absolutely no connection to this case at all, whatsoever and is in an entirely different state.
But his point was interesting that in some cases especially in rural areas the reason things are kept quiet by agencies like the TBI, CBI, State Police/AG is because they aren't just trying to keep information from suspects but also from local enforcement/authorities etc.
When I was younger a friend of mine crashed a car and someone we all knew and loved died in the accident. We all knew the real story behind the accident as we were there but magically the richest and most connected family in town had all the records vanish from the hospital for the driver. They were "lost" so there was no way of convicting the driver of doing what this person was doing. Instead the families of the victims were paid and the driver got a few years probation. I remember there being a lot of anger at the time.
I wonder if something along those lines is in play here on either a religious angle, local authorities and what not.
Having grown up in a small, rural Appalachia town and also having spent most of my adulthood in small rural areas, I know exactly what you are getting at. Crimes just disappear.
However, there is a huge gap between covering up drunk driving (even though it resulted in a death) and covering up a kidnapping / possible murder that has made national headlines.
I think your greatest point was made in your second paragraph. TBI does indeed suspect it is someone local, perhaps even someone local who is 'well connected'. The rumor mill in a small town would almost ensure that anything leaked by police would make its way back to the perp.