TN - Holly Bobo, 20, Darden, believed abducted 13 April 2011 - #21

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My husband said there are dessert, jungle, urban styles, and a new stucco variety (tan/green) of camo - all of which are army/marine; there are air force and navy seal types - all of the above which are issued.

On top of that, there are at least one hundred manufacturers of hunting and para-military hunting camo wear according to my retired US Army husband.

I guess the question is, what type of camo is normally seen around that area in TN and did the camo the perp was wearing seem any different.

Hunter camo is usually different than real military stuff although a lot of the cheap wal mart fashion camo is knocked off from the real stuff. Yesterday or the day before there was a big discussion here about turkey hunting camo which is what the suspect reportedly was wearing. If you google turkey camo you will find links. Never seen anyone here with it though.
 
I asked this last night but no response...
Does "camo" include a hat or headgear? (I am about as clueless about "camo" as it is possible to be and never thought I would be asking a question about it...) Thanks.

It could include a cap or hat, a full face mask or veil, painted face, etc.

I assume the suspect may have had a hat or cap but thats common anyway. I wear a cap or visor all the time and half the men in florida wear caps.

I dont think the suspects face was covered. He is described as being white...
 
I just wondered about a head covering, since we do not have a hair color in description. Either his head was covered, or perhaps his hair resembled from a distance, at least, the boyfriend's.
 
About a week after Holly went missing, I remember LE and Holly's cousin saying that things aren't always as they appear.( I do not have the exact quotes). They were talking about the case in general, not some specific "find" or comment. What exactly does that mean? It hasn't been discussed to any length here. In my mind, this seems to be something that could be of major importance. IMO, the investigation and reporting has been "weird" and distant. Their are too many inconsistencies, and sort of an eerie silence. What could be the reason for this? Why the secrecy? The media and public has been completely shut out. Is this a tactic that is successful in a missing persons case or is it a common tactic in an instance where LE is trying to make a successful arrest and conviction without a body? Are they concentrating on one POI in particular and therefore don't need more eyes and ears? Could this kind of silence be connected to a case in which the conviction of the perp is going to be embarrassing to LE or someone else in "high standing" ?

Maybe I've just had way too much coffee today?
 
I feel that they do not have a specific suspect. If they are still asking people to do searches on their land then would they be looking for the perp, holly, both, or other misc evidence? I really believe that they have no clue as to who it is.

With no information coming from LE or TBI, you could speculate all day. As more time lapses, I don't feel it looks in Holly's favor to be found alive. One thing I do know is that everyday I have started praying for all of the victims of crime, kidnappings, abductions etc. I also pray for their families and friends as well.

As a one month anniv is here, as each day passes and nothing, I can only pray for her, whether she is alive or passed on.
 
About a week after Holly went missing, I remember LE and Holly's cousin saying that things aren't always as they appear.( I do not have the exact quotes). They were talking about the case in general, not some specific "find" or comment. What exactly does that mean? It hasn't been discussed to any length here. In my mind, this seems to be something that could be of major importance. IMO, the investigation and reporting has been "weird" and distant. Their are too many inconsistencies, and sort of an eerie silence. What could be the reason for this? Why the secrecy? The media and public has been completely shut out. Is this a tactic that is successful in a missing persons case or is it a common tactic in an instance where LE is trying to make a successful arrest and conviction without a body? Are they concentrating on one POI in particular and therefore don't need more eyes and ears? Could this kind of silence be connected to a case in which the conviction of the perp is going to be embarrassing to LE or someone else in "high standing" ?

Maybe I've just had way too much coffee today?

Personally, I think this was simply in defense of Holly's brother, that was the only real issue that her cousin seemed to take up more than once. And LE also was quoted at least once that there may have been some communication issue or misunderstanding as far as what had been reported about what he had seen.
 
As far as jobs so to speak that aren't your regular 8 to 5. A few came to mind for me. I wonder what kind of farming is in that area or ranching? Are there many horse farms? As far as we know the perp could be living off of some sort of trust or ex military. It runs the gamet. I know LE asked for people to come forward that may have seen unusual routines in the general public, but that seems to be as specific as they have been. Wish we had just a little bit more to go on. All we can do is speculate on that matter.
 
:blushing: In my post above, I meant desert camo not dessert! :blushing:
 
Unless someone else can find it, TN is not one of the states that shows unsolved crimes online, as many do. So it makes it difficult to try to find any that might be similar. You have to look up individual crimes one by one, whereas other states have entire listings of all unsolved/cold cases.

But of course, this could be a regional predator, not someone just "hunting" in TN. I can't help but think if this was a spurned lover he would have been found out by now; anyone Holly may have dated probably is not very old or sophisticated in criminal activity. This feels more like a predator to me. Even the strewing of her belongings, if that is what happened, could be calculated to keep LE looking locally, which it did, while he took her out of the area.
 
I know I go back and forth on this but I'm still holding out hope she is still alive and being held as some sort of trophy for lack of a better word.
 
I don't understand why they have not found her body yet, it's been three weeks.

I hope they are looking under piles of leaves etc.

That's how they found Jodi Sanderholm.

Is it possible that he drove her to another part of TN and killed her and then desposed of her body?
 
I don't understand why they have not found her body yet, it's been three weeks.

I hope they are looking under piles of leaves etc.

That's how they found Jodi Sanderholm.

Is it possible that he drove her to another part of TN and killed her and then desposed of her body?

Very possible. A 5 mile radius of containment/search zone was set up but in all likelihood she was long gone. By the time LE responded someone in an ATV or in a vehicle could have been 15 miles away.

Doing some research into the number of people missing in that general area tells me it's not a safe place. I don't care what the statistics show or don't show. When you have a small population like they do in those counties and have girls going missing/dead every 3-5 years on average.

Someone, a friend, relative, significant other is at home right now thinking "I couldn't reach Joe XYZ during those few hours on the 13th" or "Joe XYZ was late to work or school" that day. Do the right thing and pick up the phone because i've got news for you I don't agree with LE, killers kill again.

Whatever set this person off this time will and can happen again. It may be ten years and you may have your own daughter to worry about at that point.

As far as the homes not allowing searches.....LE should come out and publicly say "we are there searching for clues in the holly bobo case and will not address anything else we find" to put people at ease. There appears to be a distrust of LE in that area and that isn't helping nor can I blame the residents.

In many States they call the FBI when there's a big case and don't have their own State BI. I'm kind of glad that's the case in my State to be honest after seeing all of this. The great thing about out of State BI is they are less intertwined in the community and IMO more open to all ideas.
 
I know I go back and forth on this but I'm still holding out hope she is still alive and being held as some sort of trophy for lack of a better word.

I don't know enough of the small details. However, I was wondering how much blood was actually found?

With a lot of the trafficking tactics being unearthed lately, I wouldn't rule it out. Hard to say these days but the man in camo, reminds of recon, and weather she was cut, to leave a blood trail, leading authorities to believe she is deceased and focus on looking for her that way? I don't know just a thought that crossed my mind. There was a guest speaker on Susan Murphy show the other night prior to her coverage of Brittanee Drexel and he spoke of how American girls are in demand, the traffickers can work them enough to not kill them, meth them up and rake in about 300,000 a year per girl. Sick stuff and it's a sick sick sick world!! I mentioned this to my cousin, and she said a long time ago in FL, when her husband graduated from the Harley School, there was a group that tried to recruit him to so such a thing, driving, of course appalled by it, declined and went his own way. But interesting..
 
I tried finding the post, but for the life of me could not find it. IIRC in an interview of the grandmother of HB's boyfriend, she stated that the boyfriend was torn up about her disappearance, and something to the effect that this was the first night they were apart in almost a year... does this mean they spent their nights together (sleeping at each other's house)? IF so, could that be why the brother thought she was outside with her boyfriend? He had spent the night there?
 
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