TN - Holly Bobo, 20, Darden, believed abducted 13 April 2011 - #28

[wishuwerehere]

I’ve narrowed it down to this possible list of people who at some point, if not already, could be eliminated by LE in any case:

1. Family member
2. Close family friend
3. School chum
4. Church fellow
5. Sex offender/stranger - drifter
6. Sex offender/townsperson
7. Friend of a friend (the jealousy bent)

I would like to get some input on eliminating some possibilities. Any thoughts?
(Please Note: The above list is not in any particular order.)

 

[wishuwerehere]

I guess I cleared the thread with that request.

 

[JeannieC]

IIRC, Clint described the blood as a small puddle. That in itself is interesting, clue wise. There should have been drops elsewhere in that carport, otherwise the wound was covered with something.

If you are standing by your car, facing it, about to open the door and are attacked from behind and cut, what would cause a small puddle of blood to fall?
I am going on the assumption, she was approached getting into her car, holding a coke can, taking it with her for the drive to stay awake as she had a long night.

BBM Maybe a nose bleed or head injury.

 

[~n/t~]

I’ve narrowed it down to this possible list of people who at some point, if not already, could be eliminated by LE in any case:

1. Family member
2. Close family friend
3. School chum
4. Church fellow
5. Sex offender/stranger - drifter
6. Sex offender/townsperson
7. Friend of a friend (the jealousy bent)

I would like to get some input on eliminating some possibilities. Any thoughts?
(Please Note: The above list is not in any particular order.)

I think they cleared all registered sex offenders in the area or at least spoken to them.

As for the rest on your list, all still possibilities considering nobody has been cleared.

I'd like to point out one interesting fact, however, that even though a sex offender has a registered address doesn't necessarily mean that is where they live. After following Amber Dubois case (some of my friends think obsessed), we know there are some very serious issues/flaws with the judicial system when it comes to RSO's. For example, the rating system. If the RSO is rated medium low, the chances of him being monitored are slim to none. In Amber's case, Gardner was rated medium low and he raped and murdered two beautiful young girls. His address was his grandmother's but lived with his mom.

All that said, in my gut, I believe the perp in Holly's case is someone close. :twocents:


ETA: I'd like to add that my comment regarding flaws in the system is in no way meant to criticize but to help understand and hope one day all States will have a better system. IIRC, Chelsea King's Law was put in place not long after her murder. At least in the US , the public can locate RSO. We have nothing up here in Canada. My neighbour could be a RSO and I wouldn't know.

 

[~n/t~]

Wonder why some cases attract us more than others? This case is another one that is on my mind constantly. Strange. Wish I knew why.

 

[Whisperer]

I guess I cleared the thread with that request.

I thought I was the Queen of thread clearance. Glad to know I have competition..:floorlaugh:

 

[Whisperer]

One thing is for sure, the Bobos are never low on fund raisers. Even Vince Gill was in one recently. I know a Motorcycle club gave a large donation in the past month. They are planning another big one in two weeks. Somebody tell me this isn't odd. The reward is high enough. Where is all this money going?

http://www.wkrn.com/story/15262907/holly-bobo-search-marks-four-months?clienttype=printable

 

[Whisperer]

I’ve narrowed it down to this possible list of people who at some point, if not already, could be eliminated by LE in any case:

1. Family member
2. Close family friend
3. School chum
4. Church fellow
5. Sex offender/stranger - drifter
6. Sex offender/townsperson
7. Friend of a friend (the jealousy bent)

I would like to get some input on eliminating some possibilities. Any thoughts?
(Please Note: The above list is not in any particular order.)

The strangest thing in this case is the blood. I have not seen SO's make the victim bleed before they took them. I get the impression this perp was in a rage when with Holly. It could be an SO (like nickell) though. It seems peculiar of a stranger getting in a rage when planning an abduction, unless psychotic.

By looking at nickell, he was getting more brazen as time went on. He also has a record in TX of indecent exposure ten years ago. So he is upping the anty.

 

[~n/t~]

One thing is for sure, the Bobos are never low on fund raisers. Even Vince Gill was in one recently. I know a Motorcycle club gave a large donation in the past month. They are planning another big one in two weeks. Somebody tell me this isn't odd. The reward is high enough. Where is all this money going?

http://www.wkrn.com/story/15262907/holly-bobo-search-marks-four-months?clienttype=printable

Living expenses and searches according to Karen. I haven't seen any plans for an organized search though. Maybe locals are still doing them on their own?

 

[~n/t~]

The strangest thing in this case is the blood. I have not seen SO's make the victim bleed before they took them. I get the impression this perp was in a rage when with Holly. It could be an SO (like nickell) though. It seems peculiar of a stranger getting in a rage when planning an abduction, unless psychotic.

By looking at nickell, he was getting more brazen as time went on. He also has a record in TX of indecent exposure ten years ago. So he is upping the anty.

What I don't understand is the perp parking his car a distance away from the home when he could've just driven up to the house abducted Holly and taken off. Why risk having to walk to the car, if that's where he took her?

 

[Whisperer]

Jason Nickell:

http://www.abc24.com/mostpopular/st...king-Two-Women-In/cElnYpEyLEWAxwVHnaZkDQ.cspx

 

[Whisperer]

What I don't understand is the perp parking his car a distance away from the home when he could've just driven up to the house abducted Holly and taken off. Why risk having to walk to the car, if that's where he took her?

Great Point!

 

[Whisperer]

Anybody in that town have an attorney yet?

 

[~n/t~]

If the perp's car was parked on a main road, wouldn't that have been more noticeable than driving up and taking off ?

Instead we have a perp who took the time to walk from his car through the woods, talk to Holly, injure her (if the injury/blood was a result of an attack), walk with her back to his car and drop items on the way there?

 

[Plumeria5]

I’ve narrowed it down to this possible list of people who at some point, if not already, could be eliminated by LE in any case:

1. Family member
2. Close family friend
3. School chum
4. Church fellow
5. Sex offender/stranger - drifter
6. Sex offender/townsperson
7. Friend of a friend (the jealousy bent)

I would like to get some input on eliminating some possibilities. Any thoughts?
(Please Note: The above list is not in any particular order.)

Good list, Wishuwerehere. MPO is that #5 could be eliminated as whoever it was seemed to know Holly's schedule. I think it is doubtful he/they/she staked out the house of a total stranger. My:twocents: Also I agree with nt that it is someone close. I feel she was trying to talk the person out of it and most likely it was someone she knew. That's why she didn't scream her head off, yell for Clint, or keep screaming.

 

[~n/t~]

Anybody in that town have an attorney yet?

I think the preacher who is the sherriff and spokesperson is also an attorney. :floorlaugh:


Just kidding. No attornies yet as far as I know.

 

[Plumeria5]

I think the preacher who is the sherriff and spokesperson is also an attorney. :floorlaugh:


Just kidding. No attornies yet as far as I know.

In a small town I guess you wear a lot of HATS!

 

[HMSHood]

I’ve narrowed it down to this possible list of people who at some point, if not already, could be eliminated by LE in any case:

1. Family member
2. Close family friend
3. School chum
4. Church fellow
5. Sex offender/stranger - drifter
6. Sex offender/townsperson
7. Friend of a friend (the jealousy bent)

I would like to get some input on eliminating some possibilities. Any thoughts?
(Please Note: The above list is not in any particular order.)

I think Holly Bobo likely knew her attacker, likely a friend or acquaintance.

 

[Plumeria5]

I’ve narrowed it down to this possible list of people who at some point, if not already, could be eliminated by LE in any case:

1. Family member
2. Close family friend
3. School chum
4. Church fellow
5. Sex offender/stranger - drifter
6. Sex offender/townsperson
7. Friend of a friend (the jealousy bent)

I would like to get some input on eliminating some possibilities. Any thoughts?
(Please Note: The above list is not in any particular order.)

Ok now that we have a list of possible suspects I thought the next step could be to put the reason each might want to take/harm Holly.

1. jealousy, an accident, Holly knew something incriminating and might tell her parents
2. jealousy, Holly knew something incriminating about someone, grudge against family
3. jealousy, Holly wouldn't date them, ex of DS, predator
4. predator, wanted to get back at the family for something
5 n/a
6. n/a
7. jealousy, wanted to get back at DS or CB, Holly wouldn't date

 

[Whisperer]

It makes no sense that the Perp parks his car far away...through the woods.

I need to see the house and back windows. Was Clint in the kitchen throughout this whole ordeal? I would think the carport is adjacent to the kitchen as was the garage...which was converted. It is possible they have window/doorway looking into garage. I would think there was a window on opposite wall looking out back (North). They must have added the carport which would have made the kitchen dark.

I know that you need light to see silhouettes, shadows. The carport is open, not enclosed. Clint would have the light on in the kitchen (I think) and that would eliminate seeing shadows through the window. Somebody outside would see him (as a shilouette) but not vice-versa. The light source should be with Holly but she was in a carport. Next thing I know somebody's going to tell me they had lights in the carport. It was daylight though...but the carport being covered would not emit shadows imo.

The converted garage would, however.