TN - Holly Bobo, 20, Darden; believed abducted 13 April 2011 - #33

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I'm going to guess anybody that has ever hunted in that area. My understanding is the property is used for hunting. So who was hunting that day in the area? I guess it would be impossible to know.

Are there game wardens who watch over the hunters? Is that what they're called or do they not have them on private property? I know nothing about hunting or fishing. I just know people need to get licenses for this type of sport/activity.

Game wardens don't watch over our properties, as it is privately owned. Anyone hunting on our land has to have permission to hunt. Most of us are very particular about this, and who or if we allow anyone.
You're right; it would be impossible to know who was there that day, unless they were seen.
 
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1104/20/ng.01.html

This article addresses blood specks and the car found with camo, gloves and a cell phone. What happened to that car? Who did it belong to? Frankly, I find it very odd that somebody in that community would abandon their car and it becomes a coincidence when Holly is missing and left with a guy wearing camo.

Exactly how far from the lunchbox was the car located? Another thing that was hushed up ASAP. The owner could have come forward but didn't.
 
Game wardens don't watch over our properties, as it is privately owned. Anyone hunting on our land has to have permission to hunt. Most of us are very particular about this, and who or if we allow anyone.
You're right; it would be impossible to know who was there that day, unless they were seen.

Then why didn't Karen tell her mother that Drew and his father were going to be there that day? Why all the commotion? All this happening at the same time Holly went missing. Odd, don't you think?

Do we know where this property is located, btw?
 
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1104/20/ng.01.html

This article addresses blood specks and the car found with camo, gloves and a cell phone. What happened to that car? Who did it belong to? Frankly, I find it very odd that somebody in that community would abandon their car and it becomes a coincidence when Holly is missing and left with a guy wearing camo.

Exactly how far from the lunchbox was the car located? Another thing that was hushed up ASAP. The owner could have come forward but didn't.

wasn't the car etc. found to belong to a hunter and not involved in the case?
 
Then why didn't Karen tell her mother that Drew and his father were going to be there that day? Why all the commotion? All this happening at the same time Holly went missing. Odd, don't you think?

Do we know where this property is located, btw?

I'm going by memory, but I think the property was across the county! Karen HAD told her mother, apparently, about Drew hunting there. I think it was another relative that caught Drew and his dad hunting on the property and did not know permission had been granted by the grandmother. I suspect Karen's call to her mother that morning was to tell her to contact this other unnamed relative and let them know it was ok for Drew and dad to hunt there in the future. I'm thinking Drew had to get to work that morning, and after the run-in with said uninformed Bobo relative, he just gave up on hunting for the morning and got ready and went to work, because it is said he was there by 8 a.m.
 
There are roads back in the forrest where they harvest timber. Timber is carried out on logging trucks. These roads are not paved, and they are very rough. They'd also probably be used by people with 4-wheelers, I would guess, for recreational riding. One would have to know these paths cut deep through the trees to navigate them efficiently, and you'd need a vehicle that would get around in the mud, should there be rain! Does that answer your question? I think that's what you were asking....

Yes thank you. I think this information reinforces the theory that it had to be someone local who knew the back roads.


Out of curiosity, would this be where someone who worked for a similar company Dana worked for?
 
It is interesting that one of the last press releases says this:

[quoteThe investigation continued today in Decatur County, Tenn. with road canvasses on five roads leading in and out of Holly’s residence this morning during the time she was last seen. Law enforcement spent the rest of day continuing to gather and follow through on leads related to the case.]

I had somehow missed that detail... That there were somewhere around 5 roads leading away from the Bobo's house.

And yes, whenever they made the last find of evidence, the searches stopped and all went quiet in the media. I just can't believe that some of the more aggressive news outlets just let this drop! Nancy Grace, JVM, Geraldo, and even the newshounds of the local teams just dropped the story like a hot potato! Not like them at all![/QUOTE]

I missed that too. One of the locals identified 3 roads. Who would know of the other 2 ?
 
I'm going by memory, but I think the property was across the county! Karen HAD told her mother, apparently, about Drew hunting there. I think it was another relative that caught Drew and his dad hunting on the property and did not know permission had been granted by the grandmother. I suspect Karen's call to her mother that morning was to tell her to contact this other unnamed relative and let them know it was ok for Drew and dad to hunt there in the future. I'm thinking Drew had to get to work that morning, and after the run-in with said uninformed Bobo relative, he just gave up on hunting for the morning and got ready and went to work, because it is said he was there by 8 a.m.

This is what was told to us by the family. I wish LE would confirm if all the players in this case had solid alibis. Why would they not say who is ruled out? Very unusual.
 
Is there a link for that?
Not finding one. Fairly sure there was at one time. This "evidence" was dismissed quickly.

Btw, last week marked the sixth month since the daring (cough-cough, achooo) raid on Tony Calabrese's Ohio home.

ETA

Okay, here's the car thing:

While refusing to discuss any other evidence, Mehr said reports that a car had been found containing Bobo's cell phone and some camouflage clothing were wrong.
17 April 2011, from http://abcnews.go.com/US/holly-bobo-search-hundreds-volunteers-comb-woods/story?id=13394953

"Mehr" is John Mehr, who is heading the TBI investigation.
 
John Mehr early on (AP article dated 15 April 2011) absolves two:
"The boyfriend is not a suspect. The brother is not a suspect," Mehr said. "We are confident of that."
http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2011/apr/15/abducted-tenn-womans-lunchbox-found/

ABC article, same day, erroneous report:
Holly Bobo was dragged "across the carport of her home… toward a wooded area" in the town of Parsons on Wednesday, according to the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation. Both Bobo's mother and 25-year-old brother watched the woman being abducted and called 911.
http://abcnews.go.com/m/story?id=13375662&sid=81

CNN article, same day:
A 20-year-old woman who disappeared from her home two days ago was not dragged away, an official with the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation said Friday, but authorities don't believe the woman left on her own free will either.
http://articles.cnn.com/2011-04-15/...ng-woman-new-evidence-young-woman?_s=PM:CRIME

ABC 7 Eyewitness News, same day; Mehr's claiming most of the county and part of another has already been searched:
"We've searched about every part Decatur County, part of Henderson County, part of Benton County," said Mehr.
http://www.wbbjtv.com/news/local/TBI-Speaks-on-Bobo-Disappearance-119961299.html

From CNN transcript 20 April 2011:
Mark Gwyn, director of TBI: We have not developed any type of tunnel vision. No one has been cleared no matter what their relationship with Holly may be.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1104/20/ng.01.html
 
Then why didn't Karen tell her mother that Drew and his father were going to be there that day? Why all the commotion? All this happening at the same time Holly went missing. Odd, don't you think?

Do we know where this property is located, btw?

It was said that it was on the other side of the county, that's all I know.

Tomorrow I'm going to record the Fox17 news video on my cell phone, and try to get it online and on YouTube, if anyone is interested. Afterwards, I will likely return to just reading.
 
Clint said there is a logging road. Can someone explain what that means, please. I don't want to guess.

Hopefully this may help with where the logging road is that Clint speaks about that the trail into the woods outback of their home leads directly to a logging road.. The first photo below I marked in pink the approximate route of the logging road.. In the photo below it the aerial is taken at a different time of year thereby allowing you to better see where the logging road is, especially after viewing the pink highlighted route to give you a better idea of where exactly the logging road is..
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ETA: again regarding the pink highlighted route it is NOT intended to be exact.. Especially the way it originates off the carport side of the Bobo home.. This is not correct.. As you can better see in some of the aerials the exact path that Holly /male were on.. Which is the exact path we also see Karen/reporter are on goes directly back following the direction of the neon green arrow that I used to show the direction in an above post.. That exact path, in that exact direction is what leads directly to the logging road..
HTH:)


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It was said that it was on the other side of the county, that's all I know.

Tomorrow I'm going to record the Fox17 news video on my cell phone, and try to get it online and on YouTube, if anyone is interested. Afterwards, I will likely return to just reading.

Oh, no! Please don't just be a reader! You have very interesting posts! I'm fairly new here, but you seem to contribute a lot of good things to the discussion!
 
wasn't the car etc. found to belong to a hunter and not involved in the case?

Why would a hunter abandon his car with his belongings in it? I would think in that neck of the woods, one wouldn't abandon their car. Another coincidence.

Sure, I recall it being hushed up and told it belonged to a hunter. I could have figured that out by the clothing found. But why was the car left there? Do we have a location on that? And why, if he was hunting, were in his clothes found in the car?
 
Why would a hunter abandon his car with his belongings in it? I would think in that neck of the woods, one wouldn't abandon their car. Another coincidence.

Sure, I recall it being hushed up and told it belonged to a hunter. I could have figured that out by the clothing found. But why was the car left there? Do we have a location on that? And why, if he was hunting, were in his clothes found in the car?

Here is a link to an article that references two other articles about the car and clothing. I believe it is stated the car was 12 miles from Holly's house--not sure in which direction.

I would think that a hunter might have extra clothes in case it was very cold--dressing in layers and all. Perhaps it was just a jacket. Who knows?

Was there something strange about the location of the car, to anyone's memory of the events?

Link:
http://www.examiner.com/article/breaking-news-holly-bobo-s-cell-phone-camouflage-clothes-found-car
 
I'm going by memory, but I think the property was across the county! Karen HAD told her mother, apparently, about Drew hunting there. I think it was another relative that caught Drew and his dad hunting on the property and did not know permission had been granted by the grandmother. I suspect Karen's call to her mother that morning was to tell her to contact this other unnamed relative and let them know it was ok for Drew and dad to hunt there in the future. I'm thinking Drew had to get to work that morning, and after the run-in with said uninformed Bobo relative, he just gave up on hunting for the morning and got ready and went to work, because it is said he was there by 8 a.m.

Your right that basically that is what we were "TOLD" mainly from that specific Jackson article that came out much later that provided a lot more details than we ever saw before. I began to take that article with a somewhat "grain of salt" because prior to the article being published, the newspaper had made an announcement that it was looking for public input into the upcoming article, and when it finally came out, there was basically nothing from "Joe Public", and all the info was mainly derived directly from family or friends of family. It all could be accurate of course, but just to play devils advocate on the above....Here are my concerns....

(1) - I have hunted turkeys, and most people I hunt with arrive at the exact spot (sitting down + ready) to turkey hunt at least an hour before Sunrise. Mainly because you have to be there for their fly down from the roost at day break, but also to blend in with the woods, and let the animals settle down from your stomping in to the spot. This means, IMO, that they MAY have arrived there in their vehicle either 4:30, 5:30, or at the latest 6:30 IMO. I saw a previously mapped out distance to "said property", and even though it is made to sound (in the article) clear across the county, it seemed the estimated drive back to Parsons could be accomplished within an hour (estimate was about 45 minutes max). No links here, just from memory in seeing this somewhere.

(2) - The article is not clear that they were allowed to stay + hunt there (after confrontation), so they could have immediately left after said "confrontation".

(3) - IMO, I am not even convinced the "flurry of calls" was due to said "confrontation about hunting", but lets go with it for now.

(4) - From past experience in getting told NO HUNTING HERE, we would typically leave to go to another spot familiar to us that we had success at before and were familiar with. Not our first choice, but nonetheless a "guaranteed spot" to go hunting. Just something to think about.

(5) - IMO, OVERALL, I am very sceptical of the specific times mentioned (like arriving back at work at 8 AM), because of one main thing that was also stated in that same article. The article had Clint saying he woke up about 7:50 AM (if I remember correctly) when all previous reports talked about things happening around 7:30 ish. So, with that one C statement, I have kind of had to throw the baby out with the bath water, on a lot that was stated in that article. The truth is probably somewhere in the middle.

ALL JMO ONLY of course.
 
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