TN - Joann, 31, & Adrienne Bain, 14, Whiteville, 27 April 2012 - #3

[Portabella]

Ok duh....i didn't think of that. Obviously they would have known since they were involved.
Thanks.
Also, i think it's so strange....like way risky.....that Adam brought the girls back to his house to stay for a while. Cuz i would have thought that Gary would have gone to his good friend when he realized his family was missing.
Did Adam go over to Gary's house at all at the beginning when he first reported them missing or did Gary suspect Adam right away? I don't know that part i guess. I do know that they questioned him but then let him go though.
Ugh this is so frustrating

You are amazing...that was just so in our face. Why why why would GB not go to his good buddies house if his wife and kids were missing...That my dear is a wonderful question. AM was supposed to be helping GB load and drive, wife goes missing....Kids were at his house for days.... Why didn't GB go there...now that is perplexing...HOLY COW.....IMHO

 

[Peliman]

Eric Rudolph had at least three camps set up and local LE think he probably had more. He didn't need tents and he kept blankets, food, etc, cached at each camp.

If AM has a history of hunting, he could live pretty comfortably out there in the woods. At this time of year and that far south, theres plenty to eat out there if you know what you're doing. Easy enough to make a shelter and at this time of year, it is warm even at night.

Eric Rudolf also used to get food by going to dumpsters at food stores late at night and returning to the woods.

 

[Lava]

Am I crazy to say BS on the denials... I believe that little girl behind AM in the surveillance video is Kyliyah and the guy behind her is nervous as heck in that hat and sunglasses, and is probably recently arrested neighbor RN? I just can't shake this hunch even as people swear she is unrelated to the case.

I'm not ruling it out completely. The only thing I've seen about the girl is a FB post saying someone recognized her, but I think that video is not clear enough to ruler her out completely. I definitely think that hair color was way too dark. I dye my hair black and there is a huge difference between BLACK and NATURAL BLACK.

 

[tiredblondy]

Can anyone point me to the affidavit where TM says she saw him kill the two in the garage?

There is a link here to the affidavits.

http://www.djournal.com/view/full_s...-10-Most-Wanted-list?instance=home_news_right

 

[Patty G]

The little girl in the video is not Kyliyah. It appears as though she pays for her own purchase.

 

[susan1122]

Background on Mayes
http://www.goupstate.com/article/20120509/ARTICLES/120509630?p=2&tc=pg

Interesting.....thank you. JLM2 says his mother MM was cruel and abusive and has mental issues.

 

[Lava]

You are amazing...that was just so in our face. Why why why would GB not go to his good buddies house if he is wife and kids were missing...That my dear is a wonderful question. AM was supposed to be helping GB load and drive, wife goes missing....Kids were at his house for days.... Why didn't GB go there...now that is perplexing...HOLY COW.....IMHO

wasn't it like 80 miles away?

 

[Portabella]

I'm not ruling it out completely. The only thing I've seen about the girl is a FB post saying someone recognized her, but I think that video is not clear enough to ruler her out completely. I definitely think that hair color was way too dark. I dye my hair black and there is a huge difference between BLACK and NATURAL BLACK.

Cannot remember where I saw it, but MSM already addressed the speculation and it was confirmed by LE that this little girl is that of a teacher in Alpine. She is confirmed not to be one of the missing kids....

 

[susan1122]

I'm not ruling it out completely. The only thing I've seen about the girl is a FB post saying someone recognized her, but I think that video is not clear enough to ruler her out completely. I definitely think that hair color was way too dark. I dye my hair black and there is a huge difference between BLACK and NATURAL BLACK.

I read yesterday, that it is not either KB or AB. The parents of the girl wanted her face blurred, for privacy.

 

[palaminodee]

Cannot remember where I saw it, but MSM already addressed the speculation and it was confirmed by LE that this little girl is that of a teacher in Alpine. She is confirmed not to be one of the missing kids....

correct; she is a local; parent asked her image to be removed from the video

 

[Dreamwallaby]

You are amazing...that was just so in our face. Why why why would GB not go to his good buddies house if he is wife and kids were missing...That my dear is a wonderful question. AM was supposed to be helping GB load and drive, wife goes missing....Kids were at his house for days.... Why didn't GB go there...now that is perplexing...HOLY COW.....IMHO

Also, why didn't LE send someone to AM's house? GB didn't realize the girls were missing until they didn't get off the bus. He thought JB was at school herself (or possibly left after they had a fight the night before) Did GB think it odd that his buddy who spent the night to help move wasn't there in the morning to help him move? When he did realize everyone was missing, I would think that LE would have wanted to send someone to AM's residence to check. Even if they thought she left voluntarily at that point, why wouldn't they send someone just to "lay eyes on her".

 

[HaikuMommy]

I think the guy wearing the sunglasses and fidgeting made me more suspicious that she really is Kyliyah... maybe LE wanted to release the video so people would be more likely to recognize AM, but maybe they want AM to think they don't recognize that as Kyliyah (or his friend RN in the back) so as not give away how much they know? This video was taken one day BEFORE cops started searching for AM. It just really seems like if he walked in to a store he went to frequently, even with his new "disguise," and some other dude is wearing a hat and sunglasses *inside* the whole time he's in the store... and there is a little girl with seemingly dyed hair and a scared face... maybe this was taken as RN was giving him a ride outta Dodge? The very moment he was heading out on the run?

ETA: And yes, everyone keeps saying it is NOT Kyliyah or Alexandria. Based on the parents saying "hey that is our girl" or on her paying for her own purchase, or even LE saying "it's not her"... but at risk of seeming like a looney conspiracy theorist, I am personally thinking it IS her, regardless.

 

[Coldpizza]

In my experience, no one who thinks they are ugly are. In fact, they are some of the most beautiful souls that walk the earth. To be truly ugly, one must be evil and evil people don't know it.

Eric Rudolph had at least three camps set up and local LE think he probably had more. He didn't need tents and he kept blankets, food, etc, cached at each camp.

If AM has a history of hunting, he could live pretty comfortably out there in the woods. At this time of year and that far south, theres plenty to eat out there if you know what you're doing. Easy enough to make a shelter and at this time of year, it is warm even at night.

From the beginning of this case I felt he had a hideaway, but in retrospect a person who grew up in the woods, probably knows how to hunt and survive and could survive in the woods without a hideaway. I feel like thats why LE believes he could be in a designated radius nearby.

I say that because I spent many years in the Sierras. If I wanted to hide I could fish for trout, use fallen pine trees for cover, find an abandon cabin, recognize local berries on and on and I was a amateur.

That being said, if the girls are alive they may not know the dire straights they are in. I can only hope that is the case.

 

[Patty G]

A man alone hiding in the wilderness can do most anything to survive. A man with two girls ages 8 & 12 would make it very difficult.

I am so concerned that AM is alone and trying to survive and I so hope I am wrong. :cry:

 

[Dreamwallaby]

After the news conference today, News5 chopper spotted a camouflage tent set up deep in the woods in Union County. They alerted authorities, which sent heavily armed officers into the woods to investigate. There is no word on what they found in the tent. I'd say if it was, we would have heard already or maybe if it was we'll hear later.

If was just a random camper, he got the crap scared outta him for sure.

 

[Coldpizza]

Sorry for the double quote , meant to quote GrainneDhu

 

[simlyme]

I have felt the same way with regards to JB and especially GB allowing AM to be so involved with the children. Most husbands do NOT like when another male is hanging around their home.

It makes me wonder about the common sense in the Bain family of adults, and also with the common sense of the Mayes family. JMO

ETA: Just read about AM being the uncle to GB's oldest daughter. Makes sense now why AM was at the house, or a way to be at the house all the time.

I agree, except with the last sentence, an uncle doesnt "need" to spend "ALL" that time with nieces or nephews. Unless,or maybe, if an uncle lives with the family and responsibly contributes to his family. But, Still...

 

[Patty G]

I think the guy wearing the sunglasses and fidgeting made me more suspicious that she really is Kyliyah... maybe LE wanted to release the video so people would be more likely to recognize AM, but maybe they want AM to think they don't recognize that as Kyliyah (or his friend RN in the back) so as not give away how much they know? This video was taken one day BEFORE cops started searching for AM. It just really seems like if he walked in to a store he went to frequently, even with his new "disguise," and some other dude is wearing a hat and sunglasses *inside* the whole time he's in the store... and there is a little girl with seemingly dyed hair and a scared face... maybe this was taken as RN was giving him a ride outta Dodge? The very moment he was heading out on the run?

It appears that the FBI has the video from the store, since it was mentioned on Jane's show by the store owner. He indicated that the vehicle AM got into is a four-door White Oldsmobile. So they would know if the little girl is Kyliya, of which, I highly doubt it was her.

 

[EGirl]

GB's oldest daughter, TB, is by GB's first wife, PJB.(AM's sister). So he's TB's biological Uncle, making that Mary Mayes the grandmother, unfortunately. So he's the three girl's step uncle and Mary the step grandmother.GB and AM worked on vehicles together and were close friends. It seems like they carried on that brother in law relationship.

How would Mary be the step grandmother of the three younger girls?

 

[sleuthupdate]

Ok I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around this case because I don't understand how everyone is related.

1. How exactly are Adam Mayes and Gary Bain connected? I have heard two different possibly contradictory stories. The first is that at one time Adam and Gary were married to a pair of sisters. The second is that Gary was married to Adam's sister Pamela. What are the names of Gary and Adam's previous wives?

2. Is Gary Bain the biological father of all 3 of these girls?

3. Is Jo Ann the biological mother of all 3 of these girls?

I keep seeing speculation that the eldest daughter is Gary's daughter with Adam's sister Pamela but I've also seen speculation that Adam is the father of the oldest daughter with Jo Ann (did they date as teenagers?) then I also see rumors that the two youngest daughters are Adam's and not Gary's and another rumor that at least 2 of the children were fathered by a man who is neither Adam or Gary.

I'm confused.

There are reports that Adam Mayes and Gary Bain were once married to sisters, but Tennessee Bureau of Investigation spokeswoman Kristin Helm said that is not correct. Helm confirmed Wednesday that Gary Bain and Adam Mayes became acquainted when Gary and Pamela Bain were married years ago. After their divorce, Adam Mayes kept in touch with Gary Bain, who later married Jo Ann Bain.
http://www.goupstate.com/article/20120509/ARTICLES/120509630?p=2&tc=pg