GUILTY TN - Lindsey Lowe charged in deaths of newborn twins, Hendersonville, 2011 *guilty*

[plaidmom]

I hope they find out who the father is. I think that is a factor in this. Pure hate for him and pure hate for his babies.

jmo

Thanks for posting this. It is, for me, the first idea in this crazy case that makes "sense".

Oddly enough it brings up the one scenario where I could imagine having an ounce of compassion for this young woman (hang me now websleuthers! ) and that would be if it comes out that a second crime was committed {{{speculation alert!!! Code red! }}}}; that this pregnancy was ~possibly~ the product of rape or sexual assault.

NOW.....this would not make her actions "right", but it could perhaps explain them. She's young and religious and she and her "young man" are "saving themselves" and then.... THIS.

She wouldn't seek an abortion, because, according to her upbringing, that is a sin.

Upon delivery though, she realizes she just can't do this. The Scarlet Letter is not for her. And her fiance won't buy a "immaculate connception" story, neither will most of society.

I do think it's a sad case all around. For the entire family.

Oh, and for the naysayers, I DO believe in PPD, but, as others have pointed out it usually takes a few days/weeks to kick in (~hormones~) and the mother usually also exhibits signs of wanting to harm herself.

It's real, it's serious, and the US just got it's first clinic devoted to it:

http://www.npr.org/2011/08/14/139559529/postpartum-depression-clinic-the-first-of-its-kind

 

[stg]

A Christian against abortion doesn't suffocate two newborns, sorry. I can understand her fear in that situation, but I still feel no compassion for her due to her choice.

My wife was impregnated during a rape before I knew her. She was 21, Christian, a virgin, anti-abortion, and also scared to death about people finding out, and she actually managed to hide the pregnancy for 8 months. And, she told me once, her mind ran through every option (short of murder). But, in the end, even with people pressuring her to give the baby up for adoption (which is the best option for some), she made the remarkably brave choice to keep the daughter she delivered, as hard as that was for her at times. I adopted that little girl soon after my wife and I married, and now she's a beautiful, brilliant, happy, kind 9-year-old, and my wife knows she made the right choice. My wife and I now have twins on the way, and this story makes us both sick.

In moments like what that woman faced, it's her character that drives her decision. How could anyone suffocate two babies?

 

[Peepers]

A Christian against abortion doesn't suffocate two newborns, sorry. I can understand her fear in that situation, but I still feel no compassion for her due to her choice.

My wife was impregnated during a rape before I knew her. She was 21, Christian, anti-abortion, and also scared to death about people finding out, and she actually managed to hide the pregnancy for 8 months. And, she told me once, her mind ran through every option (short of murder). But, in the end, even with people pressuring her to give the baby up for adoption (which is the best option for some), she made the remarkably brave choice to keep the daughter she delivered, as hard as that was for her at times. I adopted that little girl soon after my wife and I married, and now she's a beautiful, brilliant, happy, kind 9-year-old, and my wife knows she made the right choice. My wife and I now have twins on the way, and this story makes us both sick.

In moments like what that woman faced, it's her character that drives her decision. How could anyone suffocate two babies?

You sound like wonderful people. I really love your last sentence, which I bolded.
Says it all.

 

[southern_scout]

The only way I can make this make sense in my head is to think that she must have been in some deep-seated denial. Maybe she didn't ever bond with the babies because she decided to pretend, for nine months, that they simply didn't exist or weren't real. Not saying that excuses any of her actions, but as a mom of three kids (I had my first at 25, and she was a surprise, too) I cannot get my head around how someone could do this. I cannot imagine the moment when the baby is born and you feel so little about it that you decide to just kill it and "make it go away" in your head.

It bothers me that the local news is really playing up the whole "young mother" angle. This is a grown woman. Plenty of far younger women have babies every day and manage not to kill them. We have resources here in town. We have a lovely crisis pregnancy facility that is right on the main street, easily accessible. I know, I just know deep down she drove by it at least once in the last nine months. This entire thing just makes my heart hurt.

 

[plaidmom]

A Christian against abortion doesn't suffocate two newborns, sorry. I can understand her fear in that situation, but I still feel no compassion for her due to her choice.

My wife was impregnated during a rape before I knew her. She was 21, Christian, anti-abortion, and also scared to death about people finding out, and she actually managed to hide the pregnancy for 8 months. And, she told me once, her mind ran through every option (short of murder). But, in the end, even with people pressuring her to give the baby up for adoption (which is the best option for some), she made the remarkably brave choice to keep the daughter she delivered, as hard as that was for her at times. I adopted that little girl soon after my wife and I married, and now she's a beautiful, brilliant, happy, kind 9-year-old, and my wife knows she made the right choice. My wife and I now have twins on the way, and this story makes us both sick.

In moments like what that woman faced, it's her character that drives her decision. How could anyone suffocate two babies?

Your wife sounds like an amazingly strong woman. And you must be an amazing husband!

It sounds as though your wife has the truly remarkable gift of utter and total forgiveness. To forgive the man who raped her, and to bear his child? And to LOVE love love! that child? 100%? That's a GIFT and I hope you and she both appreciate that.

Unfortunately not everyone is blessed with those attributes. While I certainly admire you both greatly, I also have compassion for those who are not as strong and resolved as you two.

Warmest wishes to you and your family. And I really do think what you are doing is a wonderful thing!

 

[jjenny]

The idea of rape is a complete and utter speculation. Nothing of the sort had been reported.

 

[plaidmom]

The idea of rape is a complete and utter speculation. Nothing of the sort had been reported.

THANKS! I forgot to add {{{rumor }}} or {{{speculation}}} to my post. And I know how WSers will jump on that! Will go back and fix.....

 

[jjenny]

If the woman doesn't believe in abortion, and didn't want the children, all she had to do is to drop the children at a fire house, hospital, anywhere they could have been found. TN has safe heaven law. I read her lawyer is thinking of "temporary insanity" defense. She knew she was pregnant and yet didn't tell anyone? How long does "temporary insanity" last?

 

[Angelonline]

I do have one question though- what are the chances that maybe she has some kind of brain tumor or brain disorder? Are brain tumors herditary?

Since no one addressed my question, I quoted myself...
Does anyone know?

 

[LadyL]

angelonline: there's no definitive research that confirms brain tumours are hereditary

some studies suggest they can be ... but much like other cancers, we are generations away from knowing for sure IMO

btw, personal experience from a family member who had one and another family member by marriage who's a brain surgeon

 

[lonetraveler]

If the woman doesn't believe in abortion, and didn't want the children, all she had to do is to drop the children at a fire house, hospital, anywhere they could have been found. TN has safe heaven law. I read her lawyer is thinking of "temporary insanity" defense. She knew she was pregnant and yet didn't tell anyone? How long does "temporary insanity" last?

Yep, she could have taken the babies out to her car and took them to a safe haven. No excuse at all. No temporary insanity, no post partum depression either. How about just plain cold blooded murder because she is evil? Why can't that scenario be considered?

 

[mrsu]

Next thing we know they'll be claiming rape and insanity! :sick::sick::sick:

 

[Nore]

Exactly jjenny PLUS she is NOT a teenager, this is a 25 yr old woman.. a college graduate!!

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I couldnt finish High School but d*mn I'd never do anything like that.
I hope she rots in he*l.:maddening:

 

[Nore]

Yep, she could have taken the babies out to her car and took them to a safe haven. No excuse at all. No temporary insanity, no post partum depression either. How about just plain cold blooded murder because she is evil? Why can't that scenario be considered?

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lonetraveler, I agree but it wont happen, sounds and looks like she has a wealthy family. God forbid their name should be smirched!!! :banghead:

 

[Nore]

If the woman doesn't believe in abortion, and didn't want the children, all she had to do is to drop the children at a fire house, hospital, anywhere they could have been found. TN has safe heaven law. I read her lawyer is thinking of "temporary insanity" defense. She knew she was pregnant and yet didn't tell anyone? How long does "temporary insanity" last?

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jjenny, yes but she believes in murder. Thats a slap in the face. :banghead:

 

[PeteJ]

This is my home area, this young woman lives in a very wealthy neighborhood. The whole county as far as LE and SA seem to be making excuses for her and for why they let her out. Almost as if, because those babies were newborn, they ar insignificant. All she had to do was wrap them up and take them to a safe haven as there was one within ten minutes of her home. She is not a child and understood that she needed to keep them quiet so she smothered them. She admitted to it. They didn't let her out because she was a danger to herself...but because she WAS NOT a danger to herself or others.

 

[DollyPardonMe]

This is what ticks me off about people who do this to kids........ Either A. Abstain from Sex until Marriage or use some sort of protection....... BC or Condom or something else.

How hard is it to go to the store and buy a box of Condoms or go to PP where you can get BC for free.

She's old enough to know where babies come from...... so if she didn't want to be a parent she should have taken precautions.

It's always the kids who suffer.........

I'm also not buying the "I'm Pregnant and my parents are going to be mad at me" angle.

She's 25, not 15. She has NO sympathy from me and I hope they give her the DP.

I got pregnant at 16 yrs old. I was terrified my parents would find out. BUT...it was 1968! Things were NOT the way they are now. You had no choice but to hide your pregnancy back then but it never occured to me to kill my baby. When I HAD to tell my parents they were initially upset but then it was off to a home for unwed mothers where the nuns were the most loving group of women that I had the pleasure of being guided and loved by. When the time came to say Good-bye to my little one I knew I had done the right thing..All this at 16 years old..Don't tell me a 25 year old can't make a right choice. I hope she get's what is coming to her!!

 

[Trident]

A Christian against abortion doesn't suffocate two newborns, sorry. I can understand her fear in that situation, but I still feel no compassion for her due to her choice.

My wife was impregnated during a rape before I knew her. She was 21, Christian, a virgin, anti-abortion, and also scared to death about people finding out, and she actually managed to hide the pregnancy for 8 months. And, she told me once, her mind ran through every option (short of murder). But, in the end, even with people pressuring her to give the baby up for adoption (which is the best option for some), she made the remarkably brave choice to keep the daughter she delivered, as hard as that was for her at times. I adopted that little girl soon after my wife and I married, and now she's a beautiful, brilliant, happy, kind 9-year-old, and my wife knows she made the right choice. My wife and I now have twins on the way, and this story makes us both sick.

In moments like what that woman faced, it's her character that drives her decision. How could anyone suffocate two babies?

I've very happy to hear that things worked out for your wife, and then you, with the marriage and the adoption. I think both of you are very special people, epitomizing perhaps the way Christianity teaches things should be.

However, I also think that for every one happy ending there may be two don't turn out quite that well. I believe this woman was afraid, very afraid, irrational actually. I am not/was not inside her head, but as a mother I know it must have taken a LOT for her to kill her babies. I do not see her as evil - I see her as a weak, frightened human being more to be pitied then villified, even mentally ill. I don't believe anyone in their right mind would commit a crime like this, not in today's world. The Elizabeth Emerson case I posted on page 2 had a much darker, totally different context, and yet, maybe some of our Puritan heritage, especially in relligious ideals, carries over to this day.

 

[Trident]

Yep, she could have taken the babies out to her car and took them to a safe haven. No excuse at all. No temporary insanity, no post partum depression either. How about just plain cold blooded murder because she is evil? Why can't that scenario be considered?

I can't consider it because, from what I've read, it hasn't been proven to me. I cannot class anyone as evil until I know all the facts, and even then I may be wrong - and in cases like these I most likely won't have all the facts either.

I tend to err on the side of compassion. To me, it must have taken a lot of fear, trauma, horror, illness, something really bad to allow her to kill those babies. There but by the Grace of God, I believe, go a great many mothers.

 

[DollyPardonMe]

A Christian against abortion doesn't suffocate two newborns, sorry. I can understand her fear in that situation, but I still feel no compassion for her due to her choice.

My wife was impregnated during a rape before I knew her. She was 21, Christian, a virgin, anti-abortion, and also scared to death about people finding out, and she actually managed to hide the pregnancy for 8 months. And, she told me once, her mind ran through every option (short of murder). But, in the end, even with people pressuring her to give the baby up for adoption (which is the best option for some), she made the remarkably brave choice to keep the daughter she delivered, as hard as that was for her at times. I adopted that little girl soon after my wife and I married, and now she's a beautiful, brilliant, happy, kind 9-year-old, and my wife knows she made the right choice. My wife and I now have twins on the way, and this story makes us both sick.

In moments like what that woman faced, it's her character that drives her decision. How could anyone suffocate two babies?

What a wonderful man you are!! There are biological fathers that wouldn't step up to the plate. I have a grandson that hasn't seen his father in 5 years. You should be very proud of yourself and your little girl is blessed!! Congrats on the twins!!