Found Safe TN - Mary Catherine Elizabeth Thomas, 15, Maury County, 13 March 2017 #5

[Inthedetails]

Another thing about if they tried to legally exit the country. A minor requires both parents permission to leave the country, even with one parent. So even if he somehow tried to pass as her father, they'd need permission from her mother. At least that is how it's supposed to work.

Excellent point. When my kids got their passports as minors, both my husband and I had to state that we both gave permission for them to have a passport. However, once they had passports, they could travel IIRC.

jmo

 

[Whiteorchids]

What makes you believe she's not acting like an adult? Her taste for Disney?




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Why should she act like an adult she's not one. He probably is attracted to her youth, playfulness and being fun loving something he is not I'm sure.

 

[yupikgirl]

Ya I posted about that in last thread

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It is in Tampa Florida. Just got back from one and there was no way to get on the boat without a birth certificate for your kid unless they have a passport. Even if she has one the names don't match as father and daughter. For him he needs a birth certificate and a drivers license or just the passport if he has one.

Edit- ignore me if this has all been hashed out LOL. I missed that part of the conversation on the last thread.




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[alas]

Another thing about if they tried to legally exit the country. A minor requires both parents permission to leave the country, even with one parent. So even if he somehow tried to pass as her father, they'd need permission from her mother. At least that is how it's supposed to work.

Which brings me to my next question. Where is her mother? Could they have found her and receive help from her? As in signing papers, etc... Most people do not question the mother on custody issues, they just assume she has legal custody.

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[alucardsdream]

But there's so many tourist. Wouldn't it be hard to locate them especially if he shaves his beard maybe wears a hat and sunglasses. She could cut her hair, color it, wear a pony tail and ditch her glasses or even wear sunglasses. It would be like looking for a needle in a haystack. IMHO.

I think somewhere as crowded as Disney could be good or bad - there's enough people that they might be able to blend into the crowd, but there's so many people that the probability of someone recognizing them is pretty high. Even if only one person did, all it would take is one phone call and law enforcement would be storming the place.

 

[SouthernCutie]

Which brings me to my next question. Where is her mother? Could they have found her and receive help from her? As in signing papers, etc... Most people do not question the mother on custody issues, they just assume she has legal custody.

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Her mother is wheel chair bound in a neckbrace with pending child abuse charges. Trial begins in May

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ETA the wheelchair and neckbrace could be for sympathy.

 

[Inthedetails]

But there's so many tourist. Wouldn't it be hard to locate them especially if he shaves his beard maybe wears a hat and sunglasses. She could cut her hair, color it, wear a pony tail and ditch her glasses or even wear sunglasses. It would be like looking for a needle in a haystack. IMHO.

Would you risk it, if you were facing jail time if caught?

jmo

 

[Whiteorchids]

Would you risk it, if you were facing jail time if caught?

jmo

I sure wouldn't I would be in another country if I was on the run.

 

[yupikgirl]

I think somewhere as crowded as Disney could be good or bad - there's enough people that they might be able to blend into the crowd, but there's so many people that the probability of someone recognizing them is pretty high. Even if only one person did, all it would take is one phone call and law enforcement would be storming the place.

It's spring break here right now for some locals in Florida. We spent spring break in Disney last year and you couldn't pay me to ever do that again. I knew it would be crowded, but my kids were begging to go home because they hated every second of it because of the crowds. We were there at this time last year.


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[Lmustang89]

Impressed with all of the investigations from our sleuthers and sharing here. I think too he is living off the grid until things quiet down. Malboro Man aka Steelman you crack me up lol love your posts. She will grow sick of him. Really a 50 year old, he farts, picks his nose, burps, would not want that on me ewwwww. Please she needs to come home and get counseling and a support system.

 

[SouthernCutie]

The fact there has been no confirmed sightings rules out for me any locations very far away or heavily populated. He's staying off the grid laying low somewhere not very heavily trafficked IMO

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[pegs]

Here's a survival book he posted on Instagram:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BO8TMKKj66p/?taken-by=tadcummins

You can look inside the book on Amazon here: http://a.co/gkfra92

Well since we know he read How to Fight a Bear and Win, he must be a survival expert too. Add that to his LONG list of accomplishments. That book looks pretty interesting and has a lot of survival tips – for a bathroom reader.

From the summary:
“How to Fight a Bear and Win is a new approach to survival guides and how-to books. This book provides step-by-step instructions for how to make do in any rugged terrain, but with a twist. This isn’t the kind of book that will tell you how to make a fire by rubbing two sticks together—it will tell you how to make a fire using a car battery. It will also tell you how to… • Swing from a vine like Tarzan • Land an airplane in an emergency • Fight a bear…and win • Perform emergency surgery in the woods • Identify what insects you can—and cannot—eat.”

I think swinging from a vine like Tarzan would be a real stretch for TC and an insult to Tarzan and trees in general, and he is probably already expert in flying planes, jets and interstellar vehicles, but making fire and the some of the survival tips could be very useful and suggest he could be in a forest environment. The table of contents includes: How to perform a tracheotomy, set a broken bone, negotiate a hostage situation, and believe it or not, how to perform an exorcism.

Not a bad set of life skills for $10 and a visit to the bathroom.

 

[SouthernCutie]

Yeah....I continue to think he's not at a beachfront hotel. He's in the wild for as long as he can last there.

jmopinion

I agree IMO anywhere with Spring Break or tourists would've been his nightmare. He planned this to lay low and fly under the radar

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[Whiteorchids]

Impressed with all of the investigations from our sleuthers and sharing here. I think too he is living off the grid until things quiet down. Malboro Man aka Steelman you crack me up lol love your posts. She will grow sick of him. Really a 50 year old, he farts, picks his nose, burps, would not want that on me ewwwww. Please she needs to come home and get counseling and a support system.

Be careful I posting those things I said similar and Bessie got mad at me. Lol. I also want to add nose and ear hair.

 

[Whiteorchids]

ET is going to be so disappointed when she finds out he's not a millionaire nor FBI, CIA, Special agent that could have been some of the attraction. She left her life for him and he deceived her [emoji19]

 

[Whiteorchids]

Maybe he said he was FBI CIA so she didn't question him carrying guns and would trust he was safe.

 

[SouthernCutie]

Her father's lawyer seems to think that it's likely they are going to the Florida panhandle.

His lawyer as well as the TBI have stated TC and ET could be anywhere. There have been no confirmed sightings so they could be anywhere

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[Inthedetails]

Well since we know he read How to Fight a Bear and Win, he must be a survival expert too. Add that to his LONG list of accomplishments. That book looks pretty interesting and has a lot of survival tips – for a bathroom reader.

From the summary:
“How to Fight a Bear and Win is a new approach to survival guides and how-to books. This book provides step-by-step instructions for how to make do in any rugged terrain, but with a twist. This isn’t the kind of book that will tell you how to make a fire by rubbing two sticks together—it will tell you how to make a fire using a car battery. It will also tell you how to… • Swing from a vine like Tarzan • Land an airplane in an emergency • Fight a bear…and win • Perform emergency surgery in the woods • Identify what insects you can—and cannot—eat.”

I think swinging from a vine like Tarzan would be a real stretch for TC and an insult to Tarzan and trees in general, and he is probably already expert in flying planes, jets and interstellar vehicles, but making fire and the some of the survival tips could be very useful and suggest he could be in a forest environment. The table of contents includes: How to perform a tracheotomy, set a broken bone, negotiate a hostage situation, and believe it or not, how to perform an exorcism.

Not a bad set of life skills for $10 and a visit to the bathroom.

True, but it shows his interest in the topic.

I have "bathroom" books on various topics, but they all of of interest to me. I don't have a bathroom book on wildnerness survival, for example, because it's not something I really want to know how to do, even at a superficial level.

I see it as a clue to the type of place he might be, though not direct evidence of where he is, ykwim?

jmo

 

[Inthedetails]

Maybe he said he was FBI CIA so she didn't question him carrying guns and would trust he was safe.

She might not even know he has guns, fwiw.

jmo

 

[Deleted member 155000]

Would you risk it, if you were facing jail time if caught?

jmo

I think this is the crazy part about participating here. That we can't help but thinking, What would *I* do in his position?

*If* I had already done all the other crazy things he'd done (broken laws; kidnapped a girl), and I wanted to start a new life with her, I would for sure see it as an "All-In" scenario. It's either succeed or be jailed forever...or live in hiding forever. So I would absolutely prep to try to get out of the country.

But it's crazy to even apply what I would do because I WOULD NEVER DO WHAT HE'S DOING IN THE FIRST PLACE. Clearly, he and I don't think alike. So he might not be doing what any of us, who are on the right side of the law, think would make sense. He might be coming at things from unexpected angles we can't fathom...just like we can't fathom walking off with someone's 15 year old.