Found Safe TN - Mary Catherine Elizabeth Thomas, 15, Maury County, 13 March 2017 #8

[ladymoffat]

Beside her ears. They are from fingers being dug into her face while getting her head slammed into objects.

I can't begin to express how sorry I am that your family has gone through so much. God bless your sweet sister and bring her home safely, and soon! Hugs to you and yours, Kat.

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[debirlfan]

Did I miss something with the allergy thought?

Do you think this other student that just came forward is truthful?

Re the allergies, there's been discussion of her not taking epi-pens. It just occurred to me that if he does as well, he might figure he has that covered.

Not sure which other student you're referring to?

 

[Jbird7915]

Re: other student.

https://www.google.com/amp/whnt.com...sang-her-a-love-song-when-she-was-a-teen/amp/


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[goddessinsecta]

Okay, I took the Tad Cummins musical challenge ten minutes ago and listened to THAT SONG.
Musically and lyrically, it sounds like a 14-year old wrote it. The lyrics are trite, overused phrases that are clumsily constructed. "I could swim for a thousand years in the oceans inside your eyes and never reach the side". (The side of what? Now the ocean has turned into a swimming pool?) "You're the kind of woman a man can love for the rest of his life and I don't know why. I feel it's your eyes. Oh, your eyes." (OH, MY EARS!! HELP!) The music is a bunch of slamming piano chords without any real progression to speak of. And the voice sounds like a lonely banshee stuffed into a pair of Little Cruisers diapers and dying of terminal teen angst. I think he was trying to sound like a tortured soul. He succeeded.
The worst part is that he wrote this in his forties. And he has been a musician for a long time. It is understandable that a musician grows in his own good time, but I fear that by the time he gets good, the second Ice Age will have come and gone. And taken anything with ears in its wake.

 

[wendybtn]

I just had a thought, the Nissan Rouge was the wife's car. Is it possible that the tag on the license plate will expire anytime soon?
Does anyone know?
That would get him caught faster than about anything thing else in a city that isn't aware of the Amber Alert.
If his wife has a recent birthday then he'd have almost a year.
He probably has changed plates or cars, but that could be what gets him caught.
Unless TN does tags differently.
MOO

Tennessee does car registration by month you bought the vehicle plus thirty days

 

[Pamela_Brewer]

Tennessee does car registration by month you bought the vehicle plus thirty days

Tags don't go by birthday's here. It's the month you buy and register the car that they renew

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Thank you! GA goes by birthday. I got a ticket on the 3rd of the month after it expired, while sitting at a red light!
(I honestly forgot!)
At any rate, he can't renew his tag on the run. I hope it expires soon!!
MOO

 

[All4CompleteJustice]

Marking my spot!

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[MCElizabethsSISTER]

i'm so sorry and at a loss for words regarding this situation. and as others have stated, thank you so much for being here.

this furthers my point about how LE and the school handled the situation...gingerly and with time to process.

as her sister, what about her belongings when she disappeared...why did she have to "borrow" another's bathing suit? any answer or none is acceptable. thank you again...

She had a habit of borrowing her sisters stuff before she left the house. Sometimes it was socks this time a bathing suit.

 

[Karinna]

Have read a bit on this thread about this case and what sick kind of encourages a 15yr. old girl when he is 50? What a sick predator, and in a job and position of trust that goes along with that job of teaching kids.
I hope she is found soon, and hasn't been harmed. I bet the dad would like 15 minutes with this .

 

[alexwood]

JMO but everything on that website is Nancy Grace.... and her spin on things. I think many of us have followed her enough to know she tends to make statements as facts that are in fact, rumor, and runs with it. I'd prefer to stick to sites that are local or more 'fact based'. She's been wrong numerous times... not saying she is in this case, but as soon as i 'hear' her behind it, I roll my eyes.

Another thing she does, in listening to a recent podcast, is to ask a question of the guest, and not listen to the answer. When they are in the process of answering, usually providing some key bit of information pertinent to her question, she will interrupt them -- mid-sentence -- going off on some tangent, and blathering on about it -- then will ask the very same question of them again, as if they had ignored her question.

Here's an example in this case: She asked one of the attorneys (for the family of ET) why ET's "little friend" (as "NG" called her) who drove her to the Shoney's where she was to meet with TC, would not turn back around and take ET home after she had changed her mind and DIDN'T want to meet TC. The attorney stated that it was because the friend didn't have time, as she needed to report to her job. I was concentrating on his answer, or I would not have been able to hear it because once Nancy Grace heard him utter the phrase: "The friend wouldn't take her back to her house . . ." , she went off!

"WHY???!!! WHY wouldn't the friend give her a ride back after she changed her mind?!!!," she raged. "Why!????!! What could possibly have been the reason why she would allow her friend to be in grave jeopardy for her safety . . . ?!!! What in the WORLD would have prevented her from taking ET back to her house?!!!"

I waited for the attorney to reiterate that the friend had a job to get to, time was wasting. But, instead, he just opted for: "I ..... we .... really don't know that answer" Like he just gave up, figuring that it was better not to waste his breath on a futile effort trying to get through to this airhead.

 

[Doghairrules]

Agree. I think this is one of those times when the "bad press" rule of celebrity does not apply, though.

This is in reply to the post above. Quote feature didn't work.

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[possumheart]

So TC taught forensics and had Beth remove her toothbrush and hairbrush from her home. :notgood:
Creepy vibe being had.
Twice on his twitter after the school blood drive he posted the same photo of spilled blood on the floor. He is creepy.
Just an observation. Probably an overreaction too.

 

[Pamela_Brewer]

So TC taught forensics and had Beth remove her toothbrush and hairbrush from her home. :notgood:

Hmmm...
Good point!

 

[Mountain_Kat]

You really don't understand the safety issue at the house. The mother kept breaking the restraining order. We were struggling to get anything done because it was so frequent. The cops were actually getting irritated about how often it was going on. So yes her losing a key could have possibly put her in danger in her own home.

Thank you for responding to this, Kat ! I'm a person who is a bit detail obsessed where these kinds of cases are concerned. Experience has taught me that, often, the smallest detail can be the one thing that leads to a break in a case. Your willingness to openly, honestly, address many of these questions is not only brave, it's smart in terms of being a powerful advocate for your sister. Good for you !

 

[alexwood]

Interesting..

"She left things behind she'd need, if she knew she was going to be gone long-term she would have taken," Anthony Thomas said. "Her EpiPens, she's got really bad allergies, and she wouldn't have taken those if thought she was going to be gone any length of time."

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[BBM]

Now, I'm sorry, but DID HE REALLY say that? Think, think long and hard, and re-read that sentence. Does it make sense to you?

 

[possumheart]

[BBM]

Now, I'm sorry, but DID HE REALLY say that? Think, think long and hard, and re-read that sentence. Does it make sense to you?

It is a typo

 

[LostOldUserName]

It is truly sickening how the system has failed ET. I have a strong suspicion this child has never known anything but abuse at the hands of one person or another. I am grateful that her sister is here and loves her as much as she does!

 

[JerseyGirl]

Her father said Elizabeth was always on-time or a little bit early for everything; he was always able to count on her to be where she was supposed to be when she was supposed to be there.

Elizabeth took a swimsuit and change of clothes when she disappeared 16 days ago.

She has severe allergies, which have landed Elizabeth in the emergency room. That’s why he says what she left behind is so alarming. "She left things behind she'd need, if she knew she was going to be gone long-term she would have taken. Her EpiPens, she's got really bad allergies, and she wouldn't have taken those if thought she was going to be gone any length of time."

Elizabeth also left her favorite stuffed animal and her dog, Eclipse, which he says she loves dearly.

He believes Elizabeth would have never left for this long without telling someone close to her.

"If she thought she was gonna be gone, she would've at least told her brother, sister, or best friend who she talks to every night."

http://www.wrcbtv.com/story/3502892...at-she-took-with-her-and-what-she-left-behind

 

[Mountain_Kat]

Okay, I took the Tad Cummins musical challenge ten minutes ago and listened to THAT SONG.
Musically and lyrically, it sounds like a 14-year old wrote it. The lyrics are trite, overused phrases that are clumsily constructed. "I could swim for a thousand years in the oceans inside your eyes and never reach the side". (The side of what? Now the ocean has turned into a swimming pool?) "You're the kind of woman a man can love for the rest of his life and I don't know why. I feel it's your eyes. Oh, your eyes." (OH, MY EARS!! HELP!) The music is a bunch of slamming piano chords without any real progression to speak of. And the voice sounds like a lonely banshee stuffed into a pair of Little Cruisers diapers and dying of terminal teen angst. I think he was trying to sound like a tortured soul. He succeeded.
The worst part is that he wrote this in his forties. And he has been a musician for a long time. It is understandable that a musician grows in his own good time, but I fear that by the time he gets good, the second Ice Age will have come and gone. And taken anything with ears in its wake.

I said exactly the same things when I first heard it.

How people express themselves...the words they choose, the phrases they reach for out of habit, the emotional content...these are powerful indicators of psychological makeup. The lyrics to this song, as well as his posts on instagram and twitter, reek to me of a VERY immature, unsophisticated man with an unhealthy, idealized view of love. If that's actually the case, it goes a long way in understanding how a 50 year old, "Christian family man" , goes from point A to point B.

JMO

( And believe me, I hesitate to even type these thoughts for fear of having to go through 50 more posts of people jumping on me for " victim blaming". Which I am certainly NOT doing. )

 

[Deleted member 278]

"If she thought she was gonna be gone, she would've at least told her brother, sister, or best friend who she talks to every night."

http://www.wrcbtv.com/story/3502892...at-she-took-with-her-and-what-she-left-behind

RSBM

But what about the friend that dropped her at Shoney's? We were told she has been less than truthful.

When I was a teen, two of my friends ran away. One was pretty close to being my best friend. I knew nothing about their plans! I think I was left out of the loop because they knew I would break down when questioned about it since I cared about both of them. This is also what might have happened here; her not telling her best friend.