Found Safe TN - MCET, 15, Abducted by Teacher, in Maury County, 13 March 2017 #17 *ARREST*

[Etilema]

Oh yeah, no doubt he filled ET's head with all kinds of crazy notions about the blissful life she would have. He knew exactly what he was doing it for and why. But she did warn her sibling if she didn't get home by 6 to call LE, so wonder what that was for? Just in case? Then that means on some level she was thinking she might not come home i would think?

Maybe wasn't sure whether to trust him, so made sure she at least told someone something?


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[bestill]

It's not hard at all for me to think about. I agree JC is an adult and we should remain objective. I have a problem with a few things she has said. I just cant understand the grown adults here who are tearing her apart repeatedly. Some IMO are taking pleasure in going on and on about how awful she is and how anyone who has compassion for her must be against ET. If it's not that, they are scouring posts to see who they can label a victim shamer. This thread has almost ceased being about ET and justice for the crimes committed by TC.

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Probably because JC and her girls are the ones in the news the last few days and it's all being discussed and analyzed. We always rehash and rehash until something new comes out.

 

[Gardenista]

Thirty-eight days: Inside the hunt for Elizabeth Thomas

Natalie Neysa Alund , USA TODAY NETWORK – Tennessee Published 4:01 a.m. CT April 30, 2017 | Updated 3 hours ago


http://tnne.ws/2qkS0vY

 

[Karinna]

Treelights, I don't think she considers it a kidnapping. I believe she thinks it was an "affair" and that ET participated willingly and could have left TC at any time while they were on the run. JC said TC told her that ET wasn't being held against her will. I think JC is buying into that and so are the rest of the family and many in the community. I hope one day ET gets to share her side of the story. I think it's ridiculous for anyone to believe anything TC is saying. One way to know someone is putting their spin on a situation is to listen to how much they're talking, the guiltiest talk the most, imo. Can't help but notice while he was enjoying his 6 weeks away NOT one peep. But the moment he's caught he's a fountain of info!

The thing is JC knew ET somewhat, and we don't. We also don't know how ET acted around TC and what JC witnessed to feel something wasn't quite right there. TC was known to be popular with the teenagers and they hung out in his classroom. The friendly or too friendly teacher, who even wrote soppy love songs, yuck. But now everybody knows why he was like that. He was a predator looking for a vulnerable victim and that's what he found. It's like those predators that seek out roles career wise to be able to get close to kids so they can abuse them, and that to me is what TC is. And i wonder how long those things were brewing in him until he acted upon those urges? He is a predator in a slimy way IMO.

 

[Karinna]

Probably because JC and her girls are the ones in the news the last few days and it's all being discussed and analyzed. We always rehash and rehash until something new comes out.

Yes you are right. It tends to happen on every case here i have followed while we wait on something new to come out in a case.

 

[Wyle_E_Coyote]

I think a big part of the reason JC is saying those things is because perhaps in some way that she was helping ET in taking her to church etc. she now feels betrayed by her? These people all had a relationship outside of the school, so JC is probably finding it hard to separate it all & see it for what it really is, that TC is a creeper, not just on ET but others as well, and that ET was the more willing victim, All IMO

BBM

Isn't willing victim an oxymoron?

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[Irishboy]

Probably because JC and her girls are the ones in the news the last few days and it's all being discussed and analyzed. We always rehash and rehash until something new comes out.

The depositions that the family wanted where scheduled (delayed} to 5/1?
And the mother's trial for 5/12?
IIRC alot coming u

ETA hope the depositions for forward as it was stated before they were located that it was important that things change and this didn't happen again

 

[Tippy Lynn]

Oh yeah, no doubt he filled ET's head with all kinds of crazy notions about the blissful life she would have. He knew exactly what he was doing it for and why. But she did warn her sibling if she didn't get home by 6 to call LE, so wonder what that was for? Just in case? Then that means on some level she was thinking she might not come home i would think?

TC is pathetic and a complete loser!!

 

[Mom24]

For starters i hope neither you or anyone else ever have to find out what you would do in such a situation. And IMO i think she is royally pi**ed off right now and isn't thinking straight. That is why she needs to stay out of the media IMO.

If I said what JC said, I'd be wrong too. Just like when the school became aware that TC had kissed ET and the teachers referred to her as a "harlot" they were wrong. It's wrong and it sets up a "don't ask, don't tell" mentality that sets the stage for abuse. It's why only one of TC's other victims came forward publicly. It doesn't matter who brands the child as a homewrecker or a harlot, it's wrong. ET is neither. And that JC went on national television to make that point, to paint herself as a victim of ET is wrong.

She did not "exonerate the person to blame." Far from it.

Every time JC puts the blame on ET she's doing that. It's how people take their spouses back. JC really needs some empowerment, and I mean real empowerment. Because right now JC is feeling victimized by ET, it's why she treats her as an equal competitor and blames her for the breakdown of her marriage. JC goes there, it's a step away from taking the man back because he "couldn't help himself".

 

[gitana1]

I somehow missed this!
TC made hotel reservations in another state prior to leaving?

She noticed they were "too friendly " then says there were no signs of a relationship?

We've heard it was a father/daughter relationship. Jill states they were "too friendly" however that wasn't a sign of a relationship to her.

That's certainly a contradiction!

http://kdvr.com/2017/04/21/criminal...on-actions-of-tennessee-teacher-teenager/made

http://people.com/crime/tad-cummins-called-wife-jill-after-kidnapping-arrest/

" In the days before the alleged abduction, Tad Cummins refilled a prescription for the erectile dysfunction drug Cialis, took out a loan for quick cash and made hotel reservations in another state, according to a criminal complaint."


And this:
"But she noticed her husband and the teen were getting a little too friendly before vanishing together in March."

"But she added: "Never did I think there was a romantic thing between the two of them. There were no signs of that."

**Ok

"Jill said on Inside Edition that she confronted her husband about the allegations he filled a prescription for Cialis while he was gone."

Now he is calling her SEVERAL times a day?

Seriously Tad! There is nothing more you can say.

She's through with you!

IMO

MOO

She hasn't blocked his number yet. So she's not through in his mind probably.

 

[bestill]

Thirty-eight days: Inside the hunt for Elizabeth Thomas

Natalie Neysa Alund , USA TODAY NETWORK – Tennessee Published 4:01 a.m. CT April 30, 2017 | Updated 3 hours ago


http://tnne.ws/2qkS0vY

New info to me was that Tad helped ET get the job at Chick fil A.

 

[Lori_belle]

People going through a divorce or other life-altering event often experience the five stages of grief like you would with a death. Part of JC is probably in denial that her husband has done this to their family all on his own, and therefore he must have been "lured away." Logically, she probably knows this isn't true, but from an evolutionary brain blood flow perspective, feelings often trump logic initially. I have no beef with JC for these feelings. Having been involved in several hundred divorces in my career, I've seen illogical stuff play out over and over. Blaming the "other woman" is a classic reaction, and although ET was not a true other woman, the same dynamics may be at play in JC's mind.


Same thing with JC's daughters. All they have known is a normal, seemingly good dad. The denial they must be feeling is probably strong. Wouldn't most of the posters on this board be shocked and freaked out if their own fathers did something like this? So I really don't have any beef with them either.


My beef is with posters who keep calling ET a "willing victim" or saying she "consented" or some such other thing. It's one thing for JC and her kids, who have suffered a recent serious emotional injury, to say it, and another for random strangers on the internet who are detached from the situation to say it. JMO obviously

 

[Karinna]

BBM

Isn't willing victim an oxymoron?

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Not really, you can be willing to do something and still end up being a victim without knowing you will become a victim. What did ET think she was getting into? A little adventure with her ex teacher for a few hours? That then turned into a kidnapping per LE.

 

[Lori_belle]

Not really, you can be willing to do something and still end up being a victim without knowing you will become a victim. What did ET think she was getting into? A little adventure with her ex teacher for a few hours? That then turned into a kidnapping per LE.

In my opinion, this is the same thing as saying that a rape victim should have known not to wear tight jeans to that party or go visit that guy alone at his apartment - I mean, what did she THINK was gonna happen?

 

[Karinna]

In my opinion, this is the same thing as saying that a rape victim should have known not to wear tight jeans to that party or go visit that guy alone at his apartment - I mean, what did she THINK was gonna happen?

I'm sorry but to me a rape victim conjures up a different scenario altogether. Just because ET is a minor doesn't mean she wasn't willing to have sex. A lot of teens her age and even younger have a sexual encounter willingly. Doesn't necessarily make it right as per the law, but that is what happens in the real world.

 

[Whiteorchids]

It is certainly not healthy for ET. This lady's comments not only underscore the apparent Maury County perception of the young abuse victim as a scarlet-lettered home wrecker, they ADD to those perceptions and bolden them. IMO.

When you use words like "betrayal" and "romance" and say things like "she knew what she was destroying", you're laying the blame directly at the feet of an immature and confused teen victim of sexual abuse. It's horrible.

There's no confusion as to what those words mean. No need to put words in her mouth. Her words are bad enough. They support the attitude that ET is no victim. That she knew what she was doing. That she had every intent to steal someone's 50 year old husband and have him engage in repeated sexual contact with her while on the run and isolated from everyone and everything she ever knew.


As if a 15 year old child abuse could even begin to fathom the ramifications of her actions.


JC has every right to feel destroyed. But she has no right to add to the destruction of the primary victim of her predator husband. The legal victim of that person.


And her words absolutely have that effect.


My gosh it has been an incredible battle to have even fellow sleuthers see ET as a victim. Some have stated they feel more sorry for the adult JC than the tragic child in this case.


And the comments of the public in that town and across the country? Disgusting.


I hope ET and her family can move away from that county and even the state. JC's words are going to solidify the nastiness toward ET. IMO it's reprehensible. And there is no excuse.

I've been away for a few days. Did I miss a tv show airing of JC?

Link?

 

[Lori_belle]

I'm sorry but to me a rape victim conjures up a different scenario altogether. Just because ET is a minor doesn't mean she wasn't willing to have sex. A lot of teens her age and even younger have a sexual encounter willingly. Doesn't necessarily make it right as per the law, but that is what happens in the real world.

"Per the law," ET is a rape victim.

 

[Lori_belle]

I've been away for a few days. Did I miss a tv show airing of JC?

Link?

Inside Edition. I don't have the link handy.

 

[Mom24]

Oh yeah, no doubt he filled ET's head with all kinds of crazy notions about the blissful life she would have. He knew exactly what he was doing it for and why. But she did warn her sibling if she didn't get home by 6 to call LE, so wonder what that was for? Just in case? Then that means on some level she was thinking she might not come home i would think?

There's more to that backstory and some of the others who have followed this from the beginning can correct me if I leave anything out. There was something going on later in the week that ET was invited to, but said she stated was going to be grounded or in trouble. I'd have to search through the old stuff and I can't recall the exact details. So because she knew she was going to be in trouble with her father for something she was going to do, added to the statement of "call the police if I'm not back by 6pm" and begging her friend who dropped her off at Shoney's to go back home all point to ET being in over her head. TC had tried to force ET to run away with him before and it's assumed those may have been the times he showed up at her work and she hid in the bathroom from him and asked her coworkers to tell him she wasn't there.
None of this proves she knew what she was getting into that morning or went willingly. My guess is he told her that morning they'd just go away together for the day, which is why she conceded to go. My guess is he took her to Decatur for the day, told her that's where they were going, and after they'd been there for a few hours told her they weren't going back. It would explain why they were still in Decatur hours later and why they headed south before heading west. It would explain her statement about calling police, because she was afraid he might try to make her run away but she wanted some kind of safety net.
Remember too, that this was a man who'd told her he was CIA, had millions of dollars and he had already punished her previously for not doing as she was told by making her sit out in the hall alone at school during his class, which would explain why she felt compelled to meet him. I'm sure when he would pay her for being a "good girl" with $20 bills it enforced that he was rich and powerful and the kids at school all believed TC was former CIA. At 15, someone handing out $20 seems rich. So I think ET believed they were doing a day trip, but wanted to make sure she could be saved in case he pulled anything and felt she had to meet with him.
Ever gone out on a date with someone you really didn't want to and knew there was no future with? This is very similar, except this person is an authority figure in your life and all the other adults in your life are calling you names like "harlot" and treating you with derision, your peers are making fun of you because they all know you kissed the teacher, you're not only new at school this is the first time in your life you've attended public school, your mom abused you and your whole family is in turmoil, you were sexually abused at the hands of your mother who is an authority figure, heck you just got a bed to sleep on. Kind of makes ET a tethered goat on the Serengeti for a predator.
TC has a history of grooming students, and this one was perfect for him. Sexual predators look for the girl who doesn't have many friends, the one who comes from a family with troubles and if they've been sexually abused before? They've got it even easier because those children have been behaviorally modified for further abuse. You're so right when you say he knew exactly what he was doing.

 

[Whiteorchids]

Inside Edition. I don't have the link handy.

Would that possibly be on YouTube?