GUILTY TN - SLP, 14, found alive, Madisonville, Monroe County, 13 Jan 2019 #6 *ARRESTS*

[ilovechili]

The more evidence they can collect (Any additional details, or recordings, that SLP can provide < Her life of horror has to cause RJP more jail time>; The remains of SLP's beloved pet <animal cruelty>) should be his complete downfall. I certainly hope so.

I totally agree. I also wonder if one other person is being looked at at all... Or what if anything occurred there.

 

[ilovechili]

Rogers has been in custody since his arrest in January. His trial is scheduled to take place on July 15 in U.S. District Court in Madison.

If convicted, Rogers faces a mandatory minimum penalty of 15 years and a maximum of 30 years in federal prison on the child *advertiser censored* charge, and five years in prison on the charge of lying to investigators. The two charges of transporting a minor across state lines for an illegal sexual purpose carry a mandatory minimum penalty of 10 years and a maximum of life in prison.
Grand Jury Returns Indictments

Thank you, I appreciate the update.

 

[Jim_M]

I totally agree. I also wonder if one other person is being looked at at all... Or what if anything occurred there.

Yeah, IKR? There's been nothing from that. I believe that last we saw/heard, all the children were in protective custody. I hope they are all feeling safe. And remain safe into the farrr future

 

[ilovechili]

Yeah, IKR? There's been nothing from that. I believe that last we saw/heard, all the children were in protective custody. I hope they are all feeling safe. And remain safe into the farrr future

I hope they remain in a safe place, totally agree.

 

[girlhasnoname]

It appears he is looking at a minimum (at this moment in time) of forty (40) years, to a possible maximum of life.

I did an edit on my post noting they are charging him with both trips to his home.

He just couldn't rescue this young girl. He had to be another predator. IMHO of course.

So glad to see an update here for SP. It's obvious to me that after being investigated by many LE agencies, they've determined that BR was not just a misguided good Samaritan.

From the linked article:
The charges against Rogers are the result of an investigation by the Wisconsin Department of Justice Division of Criminal Investigation, Federal Bureau of Investigation, Madison Police Department, Dane County Sheriff’s Office, and Monroe County (Tennessee) Sheriff’s Office. The prosecution of this case is being handled by Assistant U.S. Attorney JP.

One child predator against SP down and one more to go. I hope 'dad' never sees the light of day as a free man again.

 

[SkipperKey3]

The more evidence they can collect (Any additional details, or recordings, that SLP can provide < Her life of horror has to cause RJP more jail time>; The remains of SLP's beloved pet <animal cruelty>) should be his complete downfall. I certainly hope so.

Me too. We know they have her 6-page letter detailing a lot of details. And they have been talking to her since then as well (as evidenced by the fact that the Monroe Co. TN LE was referenced in more details against BR). At this point, I don't think SLP will hold back on any of the details. It is pretty certain that he will do some jail time, but just how much remains to be seen. I still feel it would be very wrong if he did less time that BR, especially since it was his actions that resulted in BR getting involved at all. And his actions apparently continued for over a decade.

 

[oviedo]

Me too. We know they have her 6-page letter detailing a lot of details. And they have been talking to her since then as well (as evidenced by the fact that the Monroe Co. TN LE was referenced in more details against BR). At this point, I don't think SLP will hold back on any of the details. It is pretty certain that he will do some jail time, but just how much remains to be seen. I still feel it would be very wrong if he did less time that BR, especially since it was his actions that resulted in BR getting involved at all. And his actions apparently continued for over a decade.

I have wondered if they can add charges for each assault? It does not seem right that he's charged with just one count (IIRC). JMO

 

[ilovechili]

I have wondered if they can add charges for each assault? It does not seem right that he's charged with just one count (IIRC). JMO

That is how I feel. He should be charged with every time he ever touched her. Of course, the proof of that is the sticking point and is likely why children who even have come forward never do again because the abuser ends up back in the home. I still wonder if she ever did try to get help and that is what happened and even why they moved. jmo.

 

[Jim_M]

That is how I feel. He should be charged with every time he ever touched her. Of course, the proof of that is the sticking point and is likely why children who even have come forward never do again because the abuser ends up back in the home. I still wonder if she ever did try to get help and that is what happened and even why they moved. jmo.

I believe the same. IIRC they moved to 'help RPs health', or some nonsense like that IMO (There's a link somewhere, just losing sleep battle )

IIARC, SLP went from in-school schooling, to being home schooled. (Disclaimer: I am not knocking home schooling; I know it can work in functional families) That the other children did attend in-school schooling, was a high alert flag.

What should our expectations be in regards to either suspect? ITA from an above post, that RP should be incarcerated for much more time than BR. But how much time should they get? How much time WILL they get?

 

[Rosiebones]

That is how I feel. He should be charged with every time he ever touched her. Of course, the proof of that is the sticking point and is likely why children who even have come forward never do again because the abuser ends up back in the home. I still wonder if she ever did try to get help and that is what happened and even why they moved. jmo.

I agree that he should be charged with every time he ever touched her but that would require bringing the facts together to identify and prove it. That would require extensive interviewing of SP and dredging up memories and situations she is trying to come to terms with. If they have even one situation (which they do and can prove with the video) then sentencing him to the longest term possible for even just the one charge is essentially a life sentence because he is already 40 years old. Even if they proved 10 more events it is highly unlikely he would ever be sentenced to serve them one after the other. They would be served concurrently and the length would still be the same as serving one charge. MOO

 

[ilovechili]

I believe the same. IIRC they moved to 'help RPs health', or some nonsense like that IMO (There's a link somewhere, just losing sleep battle )

IIARC, SLP went from in-school schooling, to being home schooled. (Disclaimer: I am not knocking home schooling; I know it can work in functional families) That the other children did attend in-school schooling, was a high alert flag.

What should our expectations be in regards to either suspect? ITA from an above post, that RP should be incarcerated for much more time than BR. But how much time should they get? How much time WILL they get?

RP deserves life with no chance of getting out. However, I don't this his one charge allows for that as a sentence although if he receives the max, at his age it will be roughly the same as life in prison--if he has to serve the entire sentence... I still await more charges regarding him.

With regard to BR I think a jury will determine that based on all of the testimony. It is notable to me what charges have not been brought. I do think they cannot ignore that he transported a minor across state lines. They cannot ignore he was the adult and the tape was made. This is a really tough one since it did get her away from JP. Would JP be charged today without that tape? He only has one charge, based on the tape, if SP had not made it, where would she be--back home with JP?? Where are the other charges for the years of her abuse by JP? None so far but then there is no tape for those occasions. While that does not excuse anything, it is a tough one. If BR had never allegedly had relations with her, it would be a lot harder to look at him as anything but a savior. Yet he apparently did. He knew better.

I agree home schooling is great and most parents do it for the right reasons--then there are abusers who simply claim they are educating their children at home and use it as an excuse to isolate them.

 

[ilovechili]

I agree that he should be charged with every time he ever touched her but that would require bringing the facts together to identify and prove it. That would require extensive interviewing of SP and dredging up memories and situations she is trying to come to terms with. If they have even one situation (which they do and can prove with the video) then sentencing him to the longest term possible for even just the one charge is essentially a life sentence because he is already 40 years old. Even if they proved 10 more events it is highly unlikely he would ever be sentenced to serve them one after the other. They would be served concurrently and the length would still be the same as serving one charge. MOO

Very true so long as he gets the maximum sentence. I think she has probably been interviewed more than we think, I am not saying they have drilled her without going about it with help in interviewing a child of abuse but they are going to need to know various things just to even determine if she should go back to her mother for one thing.

I would feel better if he had a few charges at least against him (for her sake and his sentencing, not ours).

Hopefully he receives the max and the max means serving every year of it as well.

 

[Jim_M]

Very true so long as he gets the maximum sentence. I think she has probably been interviewed more than we think, I am not saying they have drilled her without going about it with help in interviewing a child of abuse but they are going to need to know various things just to even determine if she should go back to her mother for one thing.

I would feel better if he had a few charges at least against him (for her sake and his sentencing, not ours).

Hopefully he receives the max and the max means serving every year of it as well.

ITA! No time-off for good behavior on this one!

 

[Rosiebones]

As I have said before upthread, I want every time he touched her, going back to her earliest memory and any applicable charges of cruelty to animals (skinned dog) any other molestation and child endangerment charges that can be proven (siblings) to be brought against him and any provable domestic abuse. But, honestly, if they are ordered to be served concurrently, he won't be in jail for the rest of his life. To me, it will all come down to how he is sentenced, not the number of charges brought against him.

 

[Jim_M]

As I have said before upthread, I want every time he touched her, going back to her earliest memory and any applicable charges of cruelty to animals (skinned dog) any other molestation and child endangerment charges that can be proven (siblings) to be brought against him and any provable domestic abuse. But, honestly, if they are ordered to be served concurrently, he won't be in jail for the rest of his life. To me, it will all come down to how he is sentenced, not the number of charges brought against him.

Could anything in the law put more on RP for his actions, that led directly to SLP putting herself in harms way? Would that somehow be considered, "contributing to the delinquency of a minor? "

Everything he did to this child drove her to the measures she took. And luckily, she managed to keep herself alive. She did not give up. She did not succumb to the darker thoughts in her life. She deserves to never have to worry about this monster, ever again. IMHO

 

[ilovechili]

Could anything in the law put more on RP for his actions, that led directly to SLP putting herself in harms way? Would that somehow be considered, "contributing to the delinquency of a minor? "

Everything he did to this child drove her to the measures she took. And luckily, she managed to keep herself alive. She did not give up. She did not succumb to the darker thoughts in her life. She deserves to never have to worry about this monster, ever again. IMHO

JP and the lack of anywhere to turn, to put it the nicest way possible, put a 14 year old girl between a rock and a hard place and most likely (my guess) she tried to get help and it backfired, they moved and she was even more isolated and in a much worse situation. She needed to find the few options probably available to her, if there were even so much as a few.

And even though it is in contention as to being encouraged to make it, without that video I am unsure if he would be charged and she might have ended up right back where she started and in a worse situation than ever. I base that on the fact that the one that has that proof is the only charge there is against him to date despite a lifetime of molestation.

It certainly is a very different case.

jmo.

 

[SkipperKey3]

JP and the lack of anywhere to turn, to put it the nicest way possible, put a 14 year old girl between a rock and a hard place and most likely (my guess) she tried to get help and it backfired, they moved and she was even more isolated and in a much worse situation. She needed to find the few options probably available to her, if there were even so much as a few.

And even though it is in contention as to being encouraged to make it, without that video I am unsure if he would be charged and she might have ended up right back where she started and in a worse situation than ever. I base that on the fact that the one that has that proof is the only charge there is against him to date despite a lifetime of molestation.

It certainly is a very different case.

jmo.

RP (not JP, as that brings to mind the Jayme Closs case) robbed her of her childhood, pure and simple. She was even scared to turn to local LE, and ultimately turned to a stranger in desperation. The only "help" that has been mentioned so far was that she told CP, who didn't believe her. And yes, the result was that her situation got worse.
I'd like to think that even without the video, he would have been held accountable - especially since he has a past conviction, I believe - but there are too many cases where this just doesn't happen.
I have no doubt, however, that more charges will be brought against him.

 

[ilovechili]

RP (not JP, as that brings to mind the Jayme Closs case) robbed her of her childhood, pure and simple. She was even scared to turn to local LE, and ultimately turned to a stranger in desperation. The only "help" that has been mentioned so far was that she told CP, who didn't believe her. And yes, the result was that her situation got worse.
I'd like to think that even without the video, he would have been held accountable - especially since he has a past conviction, I believe - but there are too many cases where this just doesn't happen.
I have no doubt, however, that more charges will be brought against him.

I actually thought I typed RJP which is what I meant to do, but yes, RJP.

I hope you are correct about the more charges part.

As for whether trying to get other help would have worked, I guess I read too many cases where it did not. It is not proven but I just have a feeling she has tried before and it was why it was such a big deal to leave or get some irrefutable evidence this time and I would almost bet it was a part of the conversation we have not seen leading up to this. That is total speculation on my part but it seems to fit the gaps.

Quite honestly, for her sake and the rest of the children, I do not even like the fact that man has a bond amount and not "no bond". I sure hope he is still behind bars.

 

[Jim_M]

I actually thought I typed RJP which is what I meant to do, but yes, RJP.

I hope you are correct about the more charges part.

As for whether trying to get other help would have worked, I guess I read too many cases where it did not. It is not proven but I just have a feeling she has tried before and it was why it was such a big deal to leave or get some irrefutable evidence this time and I would almost bet it was a part of the conversation we have not seen leading up to this. That is total speculation on my part but it seems to fit the gaps.

Quite honestly, for her sake and the rest of the children, I do not even like the fact that man has a bond amount and not "no bond". I sure hope he is still behind bars.

I knew who you meant. It's quite apparent that most of us are appalled at what this creature subjected this young woman to. We have been witness to the worst that humanity has to offer. And we cannot forget, no matter how much we want to, or should, that this desperate girl was contemplating ending her existence. Again, all because of what RJP subjected her to.

IMHO this case brought forth many tears. For SLP, her siblings, and their poor skinned doggie. May she make a recovery for the ages. Love, and strength, I wish upon SLP.

 

[ilovechili]

I knew who you meant. It's quite apparent that most of us are appalled at what this creature subjected this young woman to. We have been witness to the worst that humanity has to offer. And we cannot forget, no matter how much we want to, or should, that this desperate girl was contemplating ending her existence. Again, all because of what RJP subjected her to.

IMHO this case brought forth many tears. For SLP, her siblings, and their poor skinned doggie. May she make a recovery for the ages. Love, and strength, I wish upon SLP.

So very well said. I hope everything you just stated here is looked at upon his maximum (hopefully) sentencing. The part about the dog shows, for instance, the very control and fear he used and it appears to me he was escalating, the move, the isolation, the home schooling, the dog--she knew she had to get out and likely felt it was now or never.

imo.