Found Safe TN - SLP, 14, Madisonville, Monroe County, 13 Jan 2019 #4 *ARRESTS*

[oviedo]

Restraining Orders are not protection orders. These are standard in divorce cases everywhere. Basically it tells each party to not do certain things like wipe out bank accounts, take all the furniture, sell off assets that haven't been divided, don't run up the credit cards and things of the nature that make things more difficult than things already are.

Gwinnett County - Case Search - By Party Name
That is interesting - my county does not require this. The name yields quite a lot of cases and I am not sure they are all the accused rapist. None match up with the divorce filing date that I could find.

 

[Miigo]

As much as I want to believe that BD truly only intended to save SP and never once hurt her, I can’t help but wonder what the conversation between him and SP was leading up to her telling him about RP molesting her. IMO SP did not just blurt that out of nowhere. I imagine the conversation prior to that confession having something to do with sex. (Are you a virgin?, have you ever been with someone older? Etc)

IMO I also believe that BD was behind the call to the St. Louis FBI to throw them off. To make them think SP was safe in hiding somewhere else . There are many apps you can download to spoof your number and location. Some require your email address to create an account

 

[Jethro4WS]

Gwinnett County - Case Search - By Party Name
That is interesting - my county does not require this. The name yields quite a lot of cases and I am not sure they are all the accused rapist. None match up with the divorce filing date that I could find.

You might want to search under mom's name and you won't go through as many. Or search using RP's middle initial "L". Or look through the list of cases that come back for his name and find the one PRUITT VS PRUITT. There is only one divorce there

 

[Jethro4WS]

Gwinnett County - Case Search - By Party Name
That is interesting - my county does not require this. The name yields quite a lot of cases and I am not sure they are all the accused rapist. None match up with the divorce filing date that I could find.

Gwinnett Divorce – Mutual Restraining Order | Douglas W. Lewis, Attorney at Law

Whenever a divorce case is filed in Gwinnett County there must be a Mutual Restraining Order attached to the Summons and Complaint for Divorce. The Mutual Restraining Order is a Standing Order in all Gwinnett County divorce cases which means it is an Order that has been signed by all of the Gwinnett County Superior Court judges and is to be filed in every Gwinnett County divorce case.

WHAT IS A GWINNETT COUNTY MUTUAL RESTRAINING ORDER?

The Mutual Restraining Order applies to all divorce cases filed in Gwinnett County Superior Court. The Order mandates that during the divorce case each spouse shall comply with the following requirements:

“Each party is hereby enjoined and restrained from unilaterally causing or permitting the minor child(ren) of the parties to be removed from the jurisdiction of this Court and the State of Georgia.” – In other words, if the parties to the divorce have a child or children then neither party is to take the child or children outside the state of Georgia unless allowed by the Court;

“Each party is hereby enjoined and restrained from doing, or attempting to do, or threatening to do, any act that injures, maltreats, vilifies, intimidates, molests, or harasses the adverse party or the child(ren) of the parties” – In other words, neither spouse is to harass, harm or intimidate the other spouse or any the parties' minor children. Nor shall either party attempt or threaten to harass, harm, or intimidate the other spouse or children;

“Each party is hereby enjoined and restrained from selling, encumbering, trading, contracting to sell, or otherwise disposing or removing from the jurisdiction of the Court, any of the property belonging to the parties except in the ordinary course of business”;

“Each party is hereby enjoined and restrained from canceling or changing auto, health, or life insurance for the parties, or the parties' children, currently in place”;

“Each party is hereby enjoined and restrained from disconnecting or having disconnect the home utilities, including, but not limited to electricity, gas, water, and telephone. Further, each party shall not interfere with the other party's mail, or the children's mail”.

THE MUTUAL RESTRAINING ORDER IS NOT A FAMILY VIOLENCE PROTECTIVE ORDER
The Gwinnett County Superior Court Mutual Restraining Order prohibits harassing and intimidating contact, however, it does not require that there be NO contact between the parties. If there has been any recent violence or threat of violence or other act of family violence then either spouse can file an application for a Family Violence Protective Order which if granted would prohibit or limit any contact by the other spouse.​

 

[gngr~snap]

Gwinnett County - Case Search - By Party Name
That is interesting - my county does not require this. The name yields quite a lot of cases and I am not sure they are all the accused rapist. None match up with the divorce filing date that I could find.

A search for Gwinnett as well as Hall, Jackson, Forsyth and Barrow Counties may bring up other cases regarding RP.
IMO

 

[Kadoober]

Yup. Unless he drove her directly to the police station in town, there was no way he was going to be someone who was going to help her. IMO.

Really, he didn't even have to drive her anywhere! Receive the video, call Monroe county authorities, tell them what's up, send the video. All from his comfy basement at Mommy's.

He is SUCH A CREEP.

 

[Rosiebones]

I have been sitting here reading and thinking about BDR and his actions in this situation.
I thought what would I do if I saw a message on my FB from someone I didn't know, but who left details and who was a couple of hundred miles away, asking to be rescued and saying they were being molested and were suicidal.
If i called their local LE, would I be believed and would they go to the home and just talk to the child and leave her because they believed both parents? Would they take her to the hospital and return her later to even more desperate circumstances. It is her word against both parents.
If I called my own local LE, would they be convinced by me and contact the LE as mentioned above, risking the same results as listed above. Or would they think I was being conned and ignore it.
I honestly can't think of how I could handle this to be assured of getting the results of total safety for the child and her siblings.
Are there mandatory protocols in place universally like there are for domestic violence cases in which the person who does the violence must be removed from the premises?
All this has made me realize that as an adult I am not sure how to proceed to truly protect a child in this circumstance.

This is not meant to be a defense or accusation of BDR, it is just something to think about.

 

[oviedo]

You might want to search under mom's name and you won't go through as many. Or search using RP's middle initial "L". Or look through the list of cases that come back for his name and find the one PRUITT VS PRUITT. There is only one divorce there

Yes, I knew of the divorce and posted the docket - I was looking for a corresponding criminal case that matched up with the divorce - domestic violence, child abuse, etc. Thanks

 

[Jethro4WS]

Yes, I knew of the divorce and posted the docket - I was looking for a corresponding criminal case that matched up with the divorce - domestic violence, child abuse, etc. Thanks

Oh, okay. There isn't any connected to it.

 

[AbbeyBabbey]

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From chatroom to rape video: Court records detail Madisonville girl's abduction, abuse

I, personally, haven't formed an opinion of BR; good, bad or indifferent. I don't have enough information to do that yet. I haven't seen any of these "some people" of which you speak opine one way or the other either, except (like me) to condemn the actions we know he did.

I don't want details; I SOOOOO DON'T WANT DETAILS - the CC was too much!!! I just want some indication that there was a sexual assault/holding against her will on SP by BR before I allow my imagination to whisk me off to a dark place and condemn a man for something we don't currently know he did.

This is why some (me) don't post often. When there's a difference of opinion, our characters are called into question.

 

[LietKynes]

After this dies down (and it will eventually) ; RP and the weirdo in Madison are put behind bars -- the former for at least the next 50 years (unlikely) and the latter for who knows how long ( deserves to be behind bars and not out preying on more victims) ............. Then what ?
What will happen ?
What if another man joins that household ? Will he be a good man ?
RP was a church-going man. It didn't keep him from abusing one and possibly more children for years.
Can SLP at least request to be placed with a foster family that she can trust ?
Is there anyone who can speak for these children ?
What if SLP has to endure more abuse at the hands of the next man in their household ?
Not surprised that she (SLP) spoke of wanting to commit suicide.

 

[cluciano63]

I have been sitting here reading and thinking about BDR and his actions in this situation.
I thought what would I do if I saw a message on my FB from someone I didn't know, but who left details and who was a couple of hundred miles away, asking to be rescued and saying they were being molested and were suicidal.
If i called their local LE, would I be believed and would they go to the home and just talk to the child and leave her because they believed both parents? Would they take her to the hospital and return her later to even more desperate circumstances. It is her word against both parents.
If I called my own local LE, would they be convinced by me and contact the LE as mentioned above, risking the same results as listed above. Or would they think I was being conned and ignore it.
I honestly can't think of how I could handle this to be assured of getting the results of total safety for the child and her siblings.
Are there mandatory protocols in place universally like there are for domestic violence cases in which the person who does the violence must be removed from the premises?
All this has made me realize that as an adult I am not sure how to proceed to truly protect a child in this circumstance.

This is not meant to be a defense or accusation of BDR, it is just something to think about.

Just take her to police. But maybe get a female adult to come along for the ride, although this is with assumption that everyone has best intentions. Females can be predators too.

 

[Rosiebones]

Just take her to police. But maybe get a female adult to come along for the ride, although this is with assumption that everyone has best intentions. Females can be predators too.

But what if I am several hundred miles away as BDR was. He is being condemned for going down there as evidence of his perversion. How is something like this done from a distance.

 

[Aydrianna523]

I remember reading in an earlier thread that the family was very "churchy". Do we know what flavor of church they attended? Just curious, as I hadn't seen it mentioned.

I can't tell if they were currently in church or if it was a while back. He was heavier in the church pics...

 

[oviedo]

I, personally, haven't formed an opinion of BR; good, bad or indifferent. I don't have enough information to do that yet. I haven't seen any of these "some people" of which you speak opine one way or the other either, except (like me) to condemn the actions we know he did.

I don't want details; I SOOOOO DON'T WANT DETAILS - the CC was too much!!! I just want some indication that there was a sexual assault/holding against her will on SP by BR before I allow my imagination to whisk me off to a dark place and condemn a man for something we don't currently know he did.

This is why some (me) don't post often. When there's a difference of opinion, our characters are called into question.

I respect your opinion - he abducted her IMO - and coerced her to make the video. Frankly, that is enough for me. But to top it off, he lied to the FBI when they came knocking, destroyed her cell phone so she could not easily contact anyone and very likely lied to his Mother that he held her in the basement. She is a child, it doesn't matter to me at all if she feels like he rescued her. I just can't fathom what else is needed for the determination that his motives were not good for this child for those who are awaiting additional information to form their opinions and I am not being sarcastic I truly would like to know. Mainly because I made up my mind as soon as I saw the details of his conversation about making the video - I did not need anything more than this. Maybe I am the only one that sees him as the predator who led her on, made her do unspeakable things with her father and kept her from LE for 18 days. JMO. This is what is great about Websleuths. We get to discuss these things. Mostly, I am just trying to figure out what else could have been done to help this poor girl and it seems to me, that answer lies with the family since she has been so isolated since the move. IMO

 

[Seattle1]

Now I am curious - knowing that the FBI had his emails, text messages and encrypted messenger(not sure of what they used) messages, I am guessing that those led to the IP address which then led to his home address? Not sure how this works exactly but it sure was quick IMO. Since he lied to them initially (that she was not at the house) and they came back later, something went on in that time period and I wonder what it was...

Probably a warrant!

 

[Julia966]

But what if I am several hundred miles away as BDR was. He is being condemned for going down there as evidence of his perversion. How is something like this done from a distance.

That's only part of what he's being condemned for, though. If he had driven 700 miles, picked her up and taken her to the police station, I would think it was a bit odd perhaps, but a wonderful thing to do. But that is far from what happened, as we know.

 

[oviedo]

I have no doubt this man's entire intent was for his own perversions. imo

I do as well and it is interesting that when the news broke of his arrest - the threads were full of differing opinions - savior, predator, etc. I went back and read them - a few were scarily spot on with what information eventually came out.

Since I now have a bathroom escape plan thanks to that other supergirl JC - now I am going to think about what I would do if I came across this situation - luckily, I am surrounded by lawyers, prosecutors and LE people that I can ask. Which I will. As a side note, I asked a friend if she thought she could hide someone in her parents house for any length of time and she said absolutely, she could do it and proceeded to tell me how she would get away with it. OMG. So now I believe it is possible that BR kept her apart and hidden from his mother.

 

[Tealgrove]

If (and that's a big IF IMHO), BDR's intentions were good, why was he hiding SP in the basement? Why was she hiding in a closet when the FBI arrived? Why was she a secret?

If his intentions were good, why did he lie?

 

[BUF]

As much as I want to believe that BD truly only intended to save SP and never once hurt her, I can’t help but wonder what the conversation between him and SP was leading up to her telling him about RP molesting her. IMO SP did not just blurt that out of nowhere. I imagine the conversation prior to that confession having something to do with sex. (Are you a virgin?, have you ever been with someone older? Etc)

IMO I also believe that BD was behind the call to the St. Louis FBI to throw them off. To make them think SP was safe in hiding somewhere else . There are many apps you can download to spoof your number and location. Some require your email address to create an account

I have to agree.

The FBI came to BR's house about 4:00 pm after locating him through his email after going through SP's online stuff. He lied, said he never met her in person or picked her up in TN. Then BR had SP call the St Louis FBI with some scripted story from him IMO. (It has never been reported what time, date, or what was told to them that I am aware of. If someone knows this, please post) Then when the FBI returned four hours later, he saw them out the window and made her hide in the closet...but she was found, fortunately.

Feds: Wisconsin man met Tennessee teen playing 'Roblox' before picking her up from home

Officials say on January 3, FBI agents responded to Rogers' Madson, Wis. residence around 4 p.m. At the time, Rogers told investigators he had been in contact with the victim, adding he had never met the teen in person and did not travel to Tennessee to pick her up. He also told officials the teen was not in his house.

A special agent with the Wisconsin Department of Justice responded to Rogers' residence later that same day, at around 8 p.m. He spoke with Rogers and Rogers' mother, Anna, according to the criminal complaint, and told them he was at the home perform an 'exigent circumstances search' for the victim.

Investigators searched Rogers' living area in the basement and found the victim hiding in a closet.

.....

According to the Monroe County Sheriff's Office, the teen contacted the St. Louis FBI field office at some point; however, a tip did not lead to Rogers. The sheriff's office says that information developed during the investigation