AMBER ALERT TN - Summer Moon-Utah Wells, 5, Rogersville, 15 Jun 2021 #28

[hollye]

Official Wells Family information website "Find Summer Wells"

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Poll: What do you feel happened to Summer Wells?

Map Courtesy of @skibaboo : Summer Wells, Rogersville TN June 15th 2021 - Google My Maps

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The Tennessee Bureau of Investigation has issued an endangered child alert for a missing 5-year-old from Hawkins County.

Summer Wells is 5 years old and not 4 as was previously reported.

Emergency crews are searching for Summer Wells around Ben Hill Road in the Beech Creek community.

Wells was seen walking away from her home on Ben Hill Road around 7 p.m.

She is 4-feet tall, has blonde hair, and was last seen wearing a pink shirt and gray shorts.

TBI issues endangered child alert for missing Hawkins County 5-year-old | WJHL | Tri-Cities News & Weather

 

[Sillybilly]

Next member to sleuth this family's social media will receive a 1 week Time Out from Websleuths.

It's clear in The Rules. We aren't going to say it again. Zero tolerance.

 

[Sillybilly]

ADMIN NOTE:

This post lands at random. Apologies for the length and the personal anecdote.

Websleuths is first and foremost a true crime discussion forum. Only second to that is that WS is victim friendly. That has NEVER changed, yet there are those who still insinuate or flat-out accuse parents or loved ones of being responsible for a crime.

With regard to the Option 1 and Option 2 hypotheticals that were presented by birdfeeder upthread, I don't believe that post was designed to cast aspersions at the family, but rather to point out that, in their opinion, abduction was more likely than family involvement. It was not intended to be a gateway for others to make up scenarios or start down that non victim friendly path of how family members could be responsible.

We have seen cases where parents remained totally silent about their daughter's disappearance because LE was busy building the case against someone else. We've had cases where a mother couldn't stay silent, and never seemed to say the ‘right thing’; members and even LE were convinced that mom was guilty yet two absolute strangers were ultimately charged with the murder of that woman's precious daughter. We've had surprises we would never have foreseen .. children who have been found after all hope had faded. Each case is unique in its detail and until LE names a POI or suspect, we do not understand why members join Websleuths only to then become averse to posting in accordance with our very basic Victim Friendly policy that covers family members, friends and loved ones.

I can say through personal experience that the pain over the loss of children (different circumstances), while it never goes away, does change somewhat over time. It changes who you are as a person, but what will never change, and what I can still hear today as clearly as if it was yesterday, are the words of those who tried to make me somehow feel responsible for the death of my children. Your words have power. Please choose them carefully.

Our rule has always been that we are victim friendly. As Tricia has said in the past, "The rules are easy to follow on Websleuths. Thousands of people follow the rules every day with no problem."

Please don't respond, but try to keep these thoughts in mind going forward.

 

[Tiff23fr]

Combined Historical Mod Notes:

I get the frustration and the desire for answers. I also understand how emotions are high in Summers case. However, baiting and/or bickering with fellow posters is uncalled for. It gets us no closer to what brought us here and does not advance the conversation.

Please refrain from responding to posts simply to bicker, argue, or bait. If you disagree with a post: scroll and roll, take a break, or at minimum pause and re-read your response before you hit “post reply”. When you feel most compelled to immediately respond, that is a sign you should pause before taking action.

24hr time outs will be issued without added warning for baiting and bickering
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Mod Note:

Nothing has been released by LE stating the parents are POI’s or Suspects at this point. The victim friendly rule remains in full effect. Discussions/observations on what has been stated in interviews is fine. However, please do not point to, or post judgmental comments regarding how a parent looks or appears on video and do not cast veiled accusations of their involvement. Lastly, please refrain from stating you are “sitting on your hands”. That is a veiled accusation/judgement and there is no need to post it.
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Mod Note:

We all know this situation is not pretty. There is a lot of noise around Summer’s disappearance. When discussing the approved interviews, keep it to what is stated in the interviews. We will not tolerate trash talking of parties interviewed or on the periphery of this case. Leniency has been given to align with open discussion of the interview(s) content, but the trash talking is where the line is being drawn.

There will be no further warnings on this topic. Time Outs will be automatic.

Keep it classy and remember your words have power.

Thanks Everyone,
Tiff

 

[Tiff23fr]

Mod Note:

The Mod and Admin team acknowledges a lot of information has been communicated via approved sources such as our own Tricia’s WS Channel and Chris’s TIR over the last 48 hours. We would like to offer some guidance around how the information may be discussed within the TOS we commit to uphold at WS.

First and foremost Victim Friendly remains our North Star. Members may reasonably discuss what has been shared by these approved sources, but may not make random accusations, or directly suggest the parents involvement in Summers disappearance solely based on this information. The discussions around the sexual assaults should be anchored only in what has been shared in regards to historical behavior. Added speculation at this time regarding current behavior and connecting it to Summer would be in violation of victim friendly.

We realize this is a balancing act and we are doing our best to balance along with each of you, while behind the curtain. This post is to offer some clarity of where we are today, however that position may be adjusted along the way as new details unfold.

Best Regards,
The Mod and Admin Team

Approved YouTube Videos as of Aug 16, 2021
Attached are links to the YouTube episodes currently approved for discussion in Summer Wells case. An approved episode does not mean the channel is approved for blanket posting. When referencing YouTube content be sure it is from one of the links below. If it is not linked below, do not post it and do not bring discussion of it into the thread. When making a post regarding specific statements within these videos please take the following steps within the post:

1. Include the url link to the YouTube episode
2. Provide the TimeStamp for the statements being referenced

The responsibility to support statements made within the videos rests with the poster of the information being stated as fact.

Blanket approval - Websleuths live with Tricia
All Episodes released on case - Profiling Evil

Episode ONLY Approvals
Unmasked:
Interview with H’s Mom
Interview with Church Friend DD
Don Wells - Rumors Explained / Phone Call

DutyRon:
Summer Wells false rumors and how it affects the case with special guests on Crime Time with DutyRon (Interview w/ Dr. Butcher)
Summer Wells Search by Midwestern EquuSearch special guest Dave Rader
Summer Wells Search live updates with David Rader from Midwest EquuSearch in Tennessee

Voices Behind the Wall (Interviews with DW):
DW Interview #1
DW Interview #2
DW Interview #3 (Retraces Steps)
DW Interview #4 DW & Sister
DW Interview #5 DW Answers Accusation and Offers New Theory
DW Interview #6 August 22, 2021
DW Interview #7 August 22, 2021

John Kelly Profiler:
Who Took Summer Wells - Part 1
Who Took Summer Wells - Part 2 Who is Guilty
Who Took Summer Wells - Part 3 Who is the Boogeyman
Who Took Summer Wells - Part 4 Darkness and Evil

We Can Bring You Hope: Podcast Interview with DW

If it’s not on the list above do not post it without prior approval from a mod/admin.

 

[ElementalLaura]

MODNOTE: Summer's diet

Regarding speculation on Summer's eating habits:

• There's NO evidence of malnutrition or neglect specifically involving food with regard to Summer. Posts on her nutritional intake; CW/DW/CH parenting styles in regards to meals; and appearance as it may/her not relate to what or how often she eats are NOT allowed.
• Posts pertaining specifically to Summer's diet the day she disappeared are allowed when posters can connect speculation to how 1) this may impact the timeline, and 2) what she ate that day may have affected her behavior.

The conversation about food needs to operate under these rules and not devolve into a lifestyle critique in order to continue. If you have any questions, please contact a mod or admin. Thank you for upholding Websleuths' standards of discussion.

Examples:

"CW doesn't seem to emphasize nutrition. IMO, they should have planted some vegetables instead of succulents that afternoon." -- Not Allowed because there's no evidence of Summer's general nutrition and/or diet.

"I think that Summer had something to eat at H's house when she changed clothes there (per H). H was probably oblivious as a teen and CW didn't think to mention it. That may mean they spent more time there than either H and/or CW estimated." -- Allowed because it's specific to the day and may relate to timeline

 

[potatoes13]

If the boys were home how would get out if there was fire if everything was locked up and no getting out.

my personal opinion is they were not locked in, I think C said that as a way to excuse her leaving them home alone for so long. I don’t know how it would be possible to actually lock them in.
MOO

 

[kittythehare]

cW was caring for the children..
I can imagine the reprisals she may have received from her husband and enemies...
The blame..
Speculating.

 

[December]

It is possible that some of the 6/15 meals somehow fall under le's recommendation to not speak about publicly. However, i have a hard time believing all of the meals for everyone could be included in that.

Mrs. CM either has a maid or an extraordinary washer dryer combo that i want to know the name and model number of immediately. Also, the CM family might be able to get by with one of the shorter wash cycles.

CB is having to go with the longer heavy duty cycles. Because their clothes do look clean unless they're in the middle of doing something that obviously got the clothes dirty. And they do a lot of activities that get clothes dirty.

Does anyone know if a skittles vape smells like skittles or just tastes like skittles? I am just thinking if it smelled like skittles everyone around her was probably craving that candy constantly.

 

[MyBelle]

my personal opinion is they were not locked in, I think C said that as a way to excuse her leaving them home alone for so long. I don’t know how it would be possible to actually lock them in.
MOO

We have two outside doors with glass panes. For safety and security reasons, the door must be unlocked with a key from inside or outside. If it was just a deadbolt lock on the inside, someone could break the glass, reach inside and turn the deadbolt lock to open the door.

We hang our door key far enough from the door that someone outside can't break the glass, reach in and use it. I believe when Candus told her boys to stay inside, they did as they were told but they could also reach a key to open the door.

This could be why CM asked if SW could open the door and neither parent was certain about the answer. JMO

 

[PhoneJockey]

It is possible that some of the 6/15 meals somehow fall under le's recommendation to not speak about publicly. However, i have a hard time believing all of the meals for everyone could be included in that.

Mrs. CM either has a maid or an extraordinary washer dryer combo that i want to know the name and model number of immediately. Also, the CM family might be able to get by with one of the shorter wash cycles.

CB is having to go with the longer heavy duty cycles. Because their clothes do look clean unless they're in the middle of doing something that obviously got the clothes dirty. And they do a lot of activities that get clothes dirty.

Does anyone know if a skittles vape smells like skittles or just tastes like skittles? I am just thinking if it smelled like skittles everyone around her was probably craving that candy constantly.

Both! High quality vapes and/or vape juice both tastes AND smells extremely well. It might smell like candy or just a sweet smell, but if you're in close proximity of an exhale you will definitely smell the sweetness.

 

[MimosaMornings]

Nothing about waking the boys up to let them know they would be alone?
Maybe a little dialogue like “I’m bringing more milk home so grab a pop tart for breakfast”

CW, CH and Summer left before 8am?
Not long after DW left to go to work?

Timeline needs to start that morning.
From the very beginning.
A lot of vagueness.
JMO

 

[JayWill]

my personal opinion is they were not locked in, I think C said that as a way to excuse her leaving them home alone for so long. I don’t know how it would be possible to actually lock them in.
MOO

I think that she just meant that no one could get in from outside. They were probably told not to let anyone in the house.

 

[katydid23]

Nothing about waking the boys up to let them know they would be alone?
Maybe a little dialogue like “I’m bringing more milk home so grab a pop tart for breakfast”

CW, CH and Summer left before 8am?
Not long after DW left to go to work?

Timeline needs to start that morning.
From the very beginning.
A lot of vagueness.
JMO

Here is the little we know about the beginning of the timeline:

Don told CM that on June 15th, he woke up @ 7 or 7:30 am --with Summer by his side, still asleep with her feet under his body.
Then we hear that Candus and Summer were with Grandma at the hospital by 8 am.

 

[LietKynes]

Nothing about waking the boys up to let them know they would be alone?
Maybe a little dialogue like “I’m bringing more milk home so grab a pop tart for breakfast”

CW, CH and Summer left before 8am?
Not long after DW left to go to work?

Timeline needs to start that morning.
From the very beginning.
A lot of vagueness.
JMO

bbm
Ita.

 

[ivegotcha]

Here is the little we know about the beginning of the timeline:

Don told CM that on June 15th, he woke up @ 7 or 7:30 am --with Summer by his side, still asleep with her feet under his body.
Then we hear that Candus and Summer were with Grandma at the hospital by 8 am.

there is something wrong on that time line.... I recall reading the hospital was located quite a distance away ....

 

[kittythehare]

I think that she just meant that no one could get in from outside. They were probably told not to let anyone in the house.

The jing-a-long way she said it was like a mantra..
those were the rules and everybody knew them.
I'm beginning to get the 'hang' of what she's sayin'.
I think.

And I now that everybody is discussing linguistics and I'd rather be watching paint drying because no part of me can take it seriously as a science.

there's a whole culture there that is no expressed linguistically and cannot be.

It's a rich culture, a striving for good that I perceive in her, a woman doing the best she can to breathe in and out.
So, even if she just spoke complete gobbeldygook, a non language, there is still meaning in it- for her and for anybody that wants to try to walk in her shoes...
There's a pain in her, a pain I see in many women, a pain that is echoed here on very many occasions. Only the language is different.

And I see these threads going round in circles, myself included in all of this, btw, and I can only begin to imagine the crazy circles her mind is running-on empty, at that.

I just know that woman needs heart healing so very badly right now.
She is different, but I like her instinctively.

Her words or sentences are just gobbeldygook, she was doing the best job she could possibly do for the good of her missing child when she did the only interview she ever did, except with lE.

She showed up, in other words.

Some cases upset me more than others.
Cases where somebody is killed unlawfully by LE and the big named lawyers immediately descend on the families and push them to do interviews almost before the body is moved from the street.
Inside, every fibre of my being screams 'this is wrong'. they are not able to digest the death of a loved one and they're placed upon a public stage with all the world media.. what do they do wit the shock they are interrupted from expressing? Carry it with them forever always as a result?
No time to grieve.

 

[Sillybilly]

Good Night everyone !!

Check back in the morning.

 

[Tiff23fr]

Good Morning - Thread is Open

 

[Mountain_Kat]

there is something wrong on that time line.... I recall reading the hospital was located quite a distance away ....

It's about a 30 minute drive.