AMBER ALERT TN - Summer Moon-Utah Wells, 5, Rogersville, 15 Jun 2021 #30

[Snow_In _June]

I am unsure how people can relate to Don & Candus Wells. They live on a hill with approximately 11 acres of land. They are asset rich and possibly cash poor however not that poor they can’t afford the repayments on a new Subaru. What was it $600 dollars a month.

I can’t get over that these parents have a missing Daughter and the only people one of them will speak to is a Youtube creator/s and in his latest antics appeared to be taking a dump in public. Do you know what that says to me he is talking proverbial sh**

Mr Wells appears to be doing everything but look for his missing Daughter. No matter how many times he is asked to put a plea out He actually can’t do it. But he remains a constant Youtube visitor and Guest. WHY?

Now I am not mincing my words, I have great respect for The Interview Room but I have to say I was slightly shocked and do feel the revelations of missing Summer were taken over by Mr Wells previous actions which were and are/were unacceptable.

I understand the Women suddenly coming forward and their possible fear of the same happening to Summer.

What I don’t understand is the constant apparent visitation by Donald Wells on YouTube. If I didn’t know better, he is a sad puppet and his strings are being pulled. He is acting a part! Now my question is why? And who is pulling the strings?

Perhaps I Will leave my thoughts there and stop rambling

 

[SusieQbeam]

I am unsure how people can relate to Don & Candus Wells. They live on a hill with approximately 11 acres of land. They are asset rich and possibly cash poor however not that poor they can’t afford the repayments on a new Subaru. What was it $600 dollars a month.

I can’t get over that these parents have a missing Daughter and the only people one of them will speak to is a Youtube creator/s and in his latest antics appeared to be taking a dump in public. Do you know what that says to me he is talking proverbial sh**

Mr Wells appears to be doing everything but look for his missing Daughter. No matter how many times he is asked to put a plea out He actually can’t do it. But he remains a constant Youtube visitor and Guest. WHY?

Now I am not mincing my words, I have great respect for The Interview Room but I have to say I was slightly shocked and do feel the revelations of missing Summer were taken over by Mr Wells previous actions which were and are/were unacceptable.

I understand the Women suddenly coming forward and their possible fear of the same happening to Summer.

What I don’t understand is the constant apparent visitation by Donald Wells on YouTube. If I didn’t know better, he is a sad puppet and his strings are being pulled. He is acting a part! Now my question is why? And who is pulling the strings?

Perhaps I Will leave my thoughts there and stop rambling

Wow. Now that I have gotten caught up, it sickens me that Summer is still missing and it seems we are no closer to the truth of what happened to her. Prayers for Summer.

 

[carbuff]

That's a good point.

Since they haven't backed off their "everything is on the table" stance then lost in the woods is still an option.

So, i guess we would have to put ourselves in SW's place. Given the personality that has been described by everyone... I think she would continue to walk as long as she could. (Eta, meaning possibly a larger search area)

That seems entirely plausible to me.

 

[Pepper6564]

I’m curious how DW will take having them*lights* taken off him and onto GP. Will he start talking to more YT’s.

 

[Mountain_Kat]

Terrible living conditions are not always synonymous with poverty.

 

[2.curious]

I still believe there is more going on that is linked to SW's disappearance.

I think SW's disappearance may have opened up a can of worms in Hawkins County and surrounding areas. I believe many more people are involved than the ones we know about. SW is not the only child missing in that part of the country.

LE on the case there now need more outside help, some new eyes looking in. I understand TBI and the FBI are on the case but something must be going on that we are not aware of.

Plus the fact that CW and DW won't cooperate or respond to MSM, this is very strange. It makes me feel like more is being hidden than SW.

That is why we haven't heard much of anything.

 

[2.curious]

There is a new announcement on the family website -

World Respected Panel Talk About Summer (findsummerwells.com)

The link in the announcement has not been approved for discussion on here.

 

[WizardQuest]

I still believe there is more going on that is linked to SW's disappearance.

I think SW's disappearance may have opened up a can of worms in Hawkins County and surrounding areas. I believe many more people are involved than the ones we know about. SW is not the only child missing in that part of the country.

LE on the case there now need more outside help, some new eyes looking in. I understand TBI and the FBI are on the case but something must be going on that we are not aware of.

Plus the fact that CW and DW won't cooperate or respond to MSM, this is very strange. It makes me feel like more is being hidden than SW.

That is why we haven't heard much of anything.

Could be that LE knows what happened to Summer (which I believe they do), but they are waiting until her body is found (dead or alive) to seal the case with icing on the cake. If they think with 99% probability she is deceased, no need to rush.

Equusearch is still searching and it sounds like they have the best search team in the USA. God Bless those people.

 

[2.curious]

Could be that LE knows what happened to Summer (which I believe they do), but they are waiting until her body is found (dead or alive) to seal the case with icing on the cake. If they think with 99% probability she is deceased, no need to rush.

Equusearch is still searching and it sounds like they have the best search team in the USA. God Bless those people.

Did Equusearch go back this weekend? I know they have been there 3 times but I haven't heard anything new this week.

 

[WizardQuest]

Did Equusearch go back this weekend? I know they have been there 3 times but I haven't heard anything new this week.

not sure if they are there this weekend.

 

[Chelly]

Many of us are doing that, Chelly. The problem is, we need the parents to get on msm and keep Summer front and center. Not on Youtube, on msm. And they obviously aren't inclined to do that. Kat from the forest isn't media worthy...423Chase isn't media worthy. We are not this child's family. LE press conferences would be helpful, but if there's no update, what are they supposed to say ? But maybe, if her parents can't step up for her, we could band together as a community , stand out in front of the Hawkins County PD and hold up pictures of Summer ? I really don't know. To be perfectly honest, most locals I talk to feel that their efforts are all futile, because they don't believe they are looking for a living child. It's tough to talk yourself into a full weekend of posting flyers when you don't believe anyone is going to spot this little girl out and about somewhere. Yes, I did it. But to be honest, I posted every flyer somewhere where I knew outdoorsy people might see it and be looking for her body while hiking or fishing or boating or hunting. You can't imagine how depressing that is.

What Summer needs more than anything is for her family to advocate for her. That's not a judgement on my part, it's just a fact.

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So true @Mountain_Kat . I hope this doesn't become another Baby Lisa Irwin Case.

 

[mooseandcoffee]

Verifiable facts really only come to us through LE and msm , and neither is talking. And if LE , and Summer's own family don't have the first clue where to look for her, I don't know how we, as a true crime discussion board have any hope of finding her. I don't see much point in having an active thread if all we are going to post is " Where is Summer ?" over and over again. That doesn't really lend to discussion, you know ? So we discuss the interviews her parents have given. We can't control what they say or how they present themselves. All of the SA info has been moved to the basement in an effort to separate that from Summer's disappearance.
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MOO

Sure, I understand wanting to keep a discussion going.

But to me, personally, I came to Websleuths because I thought there would be an elevated discussion rather than the one that takes place on social media. To me personally, discussing the drama and unsubstantiated allegations is not helpful, nor is it all that different than joining a FB group.

 

[mooseandcoffee]

In due respect, 'the family drama' is documented and video'ed enough to show its strength of truth.
What goes on behind those walls is the most relevant part of the investigation.
The behaviours and actions of the parents are well deserving of being under the microscope.

CPS do not want your children.

moo

Absolutely, they should be under the microscope by LE. NOT BY US. They are not POIs.

We do not know what goes on behind those walls.

I'm saying that just because something is stated by a YouTuber (and then repeated endlessly by other YTers) doesn't make it true. Or helpful.

 

[mooseandcoffee]

I think I just tuned into what is soo odd with the sleeping Summer pic/video!.

Couldn't put my finger on it for the longest time.

When kids sleep in the car in their car seats, seatbelt, whatever,..., their chins are not up. Chins go down.

Maybe somebody already thought of this, but it finally hit me what was odd to me about it that I couldn't let the image go in my brain...

check out your kids asleep in the car.

chins down. every time.

Who is it that has posted the link to the weird kid sleeping positions????

 

[mooseandcoffee]

SBM
Thats where the divide comes in.
I can not see where anybody has done anything to harm those boys online.

Nobody is putting words in CW and DW's mouths or forcing them to video themselves under substance abuse.

Them showing us who they are....is nothing knew to those kids.
They lived with it.

I cringe everytime DW makes an interview but its not because of what anyone online is doing.

It can't be swept under the carpet and pretended that this is a wholesome family living their best life.
That IMO is the saddest element to this case , misplacing the chronic suffering of these kids.

A little girl is dead and her parents have done everything in their power to blur the picture.


For example...
Why would DW video on a live stream CW so stoned in her chair she is dribbling and unable to speak or move.
Nobody asked him to.

There is the real instigator of the mountains of fodder released.

moo

I don't know the video you are referring to because I am done watching it being reported on YT.

I am not condoning drug use, but it happens. That does not mean they killed their child. He is not someone I would want to hang out with. That does not mean they killed their child.

Let's say for a second that they had nothing to do with this. That, to me, explains why someone who has struggled with addiction is suddenly using a lot again. If you don't have the emotional resources to deal with tragedy, then you are going to fall back on whatever you have used in the past to dull it and block it out.

They are being attacked by people left and right and I'm sure by doing the interviews, they believe they are fighting back.

 

[mooseandcoffee]

Dead, alive, asleep, awake (all are debatable) ... what appears to be the state of her consciousness is what is important in this picture in my opinion.

This is the Duty Ron episode where the pathologist looks at the photo and explains why in her vast experience she believes her to be alive.

 

[WizardQuest]

Sure, I understand wanting to keep a discussion going.

But to me, personally, I came to Websleuths because I thought there would be an elevated discussion rather than the one that takes place on social media. To me personally, discussing the drama and unsubstantiated allegations is not helpful, nor is it all that different than joining a FB group.

How about this for a discussion point:

In the CM interview with CB, CB says at one point (I don't know how to add link, sorry - ~13:40-14:00timestamp of CB video "Part 1") that she came out of the PriceLess store and she tells H, "You're not coming to the house, I'm sorry to tell you, but you're going back to your house."

In another video, and I can't find it right now, CB prided herself on taking the kids places if they wanted to go.

 

[skibaboo]

I think the whole thing is staged. It's the only thing that makes any sense to me. I don't think it was expected that J would come forward when she heard Summer was missing. It changed everything.

I don't know if I am right, but it's how I see it.

 

[WizardQuest]

let's find discussion points

Best info we have:

2 videos of SW that day.

 

[December]

MSM likes stories that fit narratives. Gabby's does. And she herself posted videos to allow the narrative to be built.

I hope she can be found, but she is probably still in Wyoming. It is nice that her parents are speaking up for her. I am guessing they don't have criminal records or prison time or allegations of serious crimes from years ago coming up.

Idk if anyone has bad things to say about them on social media, but it sounds like they aren't getting distracted by that. More likely Gabby is being talked badly about (because social media is like that), so naturally, it is normal they would take her side.

Meanwhile, poor Summer might actually not be in the United States. She is so little she could be smuggled somewhere. I think that is unlikely, but i think it is possible. Everything is apparently possible in Summer's case.

However, DW has been in prison for serious crimes. Now, those are not SW's fault, but it will come out. Also everything J et al have said will come out. This isn't fair to SW, but we have a TOS, MSM doesn't.

Then there is CB who has some problems that can and will be brought out. Is this fair to SW? No, it's not. What sort of narrative can be built around CB, CH, H, and SW's day out?

What do the photos and videos SW look like? They make her situation look worse than it is.

For example, even here a few well meaning people initially took the comment (by people who knew SW) that she didn't talk "much", but sometimes she "talks a lot" to mean she's non-verbal even though people outside the family said she could talk.

If MSM wanted to cover SW's case, they could take that channel 11 piece, re-edit it and re-narrate it (to make it look like they did the work on it). Then, they could use that... Maybe make a couple of phone calls to see if there's new information. This is how it works since years. I don't have TV service, but i can't imagine covid has improved the situation.

Jmo, i think a lot of things that we know about SW that are perfectly fine for us to discuss are difficult to discern how they fit into SW's day. This is because CB is telling us her (CB's) day. H is telling us his day. They can tell what they observed about SW, but that's all they can do. CH is apparently not talking on camera, so just as an example, we don't know as much about her day even though she spent a lot of it with CB and H.

DW was at work, so he can talk about the morning, the phone calls, and the shed. I do believe he went to work. Idk what time specifically he left because I wasn't there. But, i don't think he is going to try to say he was at work if he didn't go.

I am trying to think of how i would write this story. It would just have to be brief. Look at what the TBI spokesperson said, that's pretty much going to be the story. Then i guess I would put some pictures of SW.

Then someone else would take my story, do some digging, and it is not going to be pretty. See John Kelly Profiler video 4 titled "Darkness and Evil" (link on page one). He is carefully trying not to interfere with the investigation. I don't know what he found out besides what we know.
Whatever it was, if legal clears it, MSM will report it.

What needs to happen for MSM to cover this case is LE to clear someone close to SW (preferably to clear CB, CH DW, and H, oh and the brothers). I am not accusing these people of crimes, but they are essential to building a narrative around SW for the MSM piece that I think most of us would love to see. (Other people i didn't mention aren't as important to the story, i am not accusing anyone.)

Would this find Summer? I don't know. It sounds like LE wants to find her before they take anything off the table. Now, there could be some things they suspect less than other things, but they're not telling.