Toddler's Mother/Peaches/Jane Doe #3

[Hotpotato]

So, Baby Doe was proven to be Peaches daughter through DNA, yes? Why has LE not taken the very simple steps to look for familial matches? Take raw DNA data and uploading to a site like GEDMatch, for example.... it would take some time to sort through the matches but you never know, there could be someone as close as a 1st or 2nd cousin and really, it's fairly simple follow a family tree.

Yes baby did is peaches' child. We don't know why LE has/hasn't done many things in this case or that they haven't checked DNA or hell at this point they could know who peaches is and not be releasing it. Just like they knew baby doe was Peaches child for years before confirming it. .

 

[DQN]

So, Baby Doe was proven to be Peaches daughter through DNA, yes? Why has LE not taken the very simple steps to look for familial matches? Take raw DNA data and uploading to a site like GEDMatch, for example.... it would take some time to sort through the matches but you never know, there could be someone as close as a 1st or 2nd cousin and really, it's fairly simple follow a family tree.

It is not so easy to do familial DNA. It's a great tool. However it is not a perfect science yet and there are legalities involves.

Current forms of familial DNA searches work only with men. This is because techniques in common use to determine exact familial relations involve analysis of similarities on the Y chromosome. Familial DNA searches as we know them today do not identify exact relatives of a female DNA sample, or female relatives of a male DNA sample.

While law enforcement may see familial DNA searches as a powerful new tool to track down suspected criminals, civil liberties advocates have criticized familial DNA searches as an invasion of privacy. They argue that familial DNA searching encroaches on the privacy of the relatives of those DNA has been collected through the penal system system, in violation of the Fourth Amendment;s protection against unreasonable searches.

Currently, it is difficult to establish exactly which law enforcement agencies use familial DNA searches. Many states have not formally adopted procedures to allow or ban familial searches.

Only a limited number of states explicitly allow law enforcement officials to use familial DNA searches. Of these states, even fewer have issued public proclamations regarding familial searches. The policies in place in many states remain either unwritten or written in internal laboratory manuals.


At least one state, Maryland, has statutorily banned the use of familial DNA searches.


The few states which have officially allowed familial searches vary widely on the conditions in which familial DNA searches may be performed. For example, California officially allows familial DNA searches in investigations of major violent crimes in which the public faces safety risks and in which all other investigative avenues have proven fruitless. Colorado, on the other hand, has allowed familial searches to aid the investigation of lesser, non-violent crimes.

The GOOD NEWS IS JUST today in NEW YORK STATE thanks to the Vetrano family the senate passed a bill to use Familial DNA.
http://www.metro.us/new-york/familial-dna-bill-passes-ny-senate/zsJqbg---UNnLHiSRvWFY/

 

[Hotpotato]

I did a search because I know I've seen these two but couldn't remember if I or anyone had posted.

15 yo mother with c-section scar goes missing with her 7mo daughter in dec 1993

Would put baby on the very upper end of age limit listed for toddler in namus

Mom
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/c/conroy_jennifer.html
Baby
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/c/conroy_ashley.html

 

[Evey]

So I spoken to my escort friend she said she would be willing to pass out flyers or show girls and what not photos of the tattoos. Preferably if we have a flyer with info on peaches the photo of the sham that someone found that's clear and her tattoo in best quality and Cherry same thing and Asian male and any John or Jane does that need to also be asked about. If anyone would be willing to make those that would be amazing because I cant on my phone and also what is the main on page where girls complain about creepy johns in America? I didn't realize It but she uses te U.K. One and hasn't yet been able to find one in America since since moving bavk here. Also anything else you think needs to be passed on I'll send her as well!

 

[Evey]

Do you guys think I should repost that in the Cherry and asian male etc thread or should this be fine? I feel like if the flyers list all possible info like places each part was found and height and weight and what year found and what year they went missing then that can help a lot cause she meets up with groups of sex workers and some retired ones who'd have been working at the right time so maybe She can help!

 

[Evey]

Also if anyone is willing to make the flyers since my phone can't then I'll send you a message with a link to my Facebook or Instagram so they can be sent there and then I will save them and send them to her. It's pure luck that I became her friend with how popular she is on social media most the stuff she gets is from creepy dudss but luckily she opened my message awhile back on the topic of empi units and I've been able to make a friendship enough to start asking her and telling her about this case. I'm crossing my fingers that she meets a retired escort who recognizes one of them

 

[Emre E]

this is old news, but I just found the opportunity.

On Jan 29th I filled a form to submit Celina Janette Mays.

The following is the reply I got from Doenetwork

Your suggested match has previously been submitted to Doe Network and was forwarded to law enforcement in both states.

Two LE agencies and Celina is not listed as a rule out. Curious..

No more comments from me... Not now.

 

[The Nomad]

this is old news, but I just found the opportunity.

On Jan 29th I filled a form to submit Celina Janette Mays.

The following is the reply I got from Doenetwork

Your suggested match has previously been submitted to Doe Network and was forwarded to law enforcement in both states.

Two LE agencies and Celina is not listed as a rule out. Curious..

No more comments from me... Not now.

Curious.. Seems to me like LE is withholding something.

I'm going to throw the bomb as I thought about this the other day.

The bf was never known.. Correct? Did one Mister Moses have any connection to NJ?

Could this have been the start of the timeline?

 

[LISleuth]

Could Peaches be the "black female who got away from the sk, running down Ocean Pkwy half naked"?

Who remembers this as told as a happening? Way back to the original "lisk" blog?

 

[Emre E]

Curious.. Seems to me like LE is withholding something.

I'm going to throw the bomb as I thought about this the other day.

The bf was never known.. Correct? Did one Mister Moses have any connection to NJ?

Could this have been the start of the timeline?

My opinion

Bf is probably her cousin, but according to the reports there is one other young man.

FI Lady is 1996. Given the extreme effort to dismember and hide her body parts (which is far more cumbersome than JD6 to the same end result) somewhere around 1996 seems plausible.

I think Peaches is a NY victim. But originally from NJ? Who knows..

For a potential NJ connection please check the following two. That's what I think.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...ed-Victims-**MERGED**&p=10954591#post10954591

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...ed-Victims-**MERGED**&p=11056888#post11056888

 

[Aleph]

Could Peaches be the "black female who got away from the sk, running down Ocean Pkwy half naked"?

Who remembers this as told as a happening? Way back to the original "lisk" blog?

I remember that story. I think it did originate at the lisk blog. It might even be repeated in Bob Kolker's book; I'd have to check.


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[LISleuth]

Ah, Kolkers book may make reference to it. I'll check as well. Let us know.

 

[alawaysslueth]

Also if anyone is willing to make the flyers since my phone can't then I'll send you a message with a link to my Facebook or Instagram so they can be sent there and then I will save them and send them to her. It's pure luck that I became her friend with how popular she is on social media most the stuff she gets is from creepy dudss but luckily she opened my message awhile back on the topic of empi units and I've been able to make a friendship enough to start asking her and telling her about this case. I'm crossing my fingers that she meets a retired escort who recognizes one of them

I can create a flier/poster and share it on her facebook page if you want

 

[DQN]

Maybe we need to check the missing people in Jamaica, Trinidad, Tobago and Puerto Rico directly to the country agencies for missing girls in 1995.1996 and 1997.

 

[alawaysslueth]

Maybe we need to check the missing people in Jamaica, Trinidad, Tobago and Puerto Rico directly to the country agencies for missing girls in 1995.1996 and 1997.

How can I view missing persons from other countries

 

[deedee21]

So, Baby Doe was proven to be Peaches daughter through DNA, yes? Why has LE not taken the very simple steps to look for familial matches? Take raw DNA data and uploading to a site like GEDMatch, for example.... it would take some time to sort through the matches but you never know, there could be someone as close as a 1st or 2nd cousin and really, it's fairly simple follow a family tree.

This is a great idea.

 

[Alleykins]

How can I view missing persons from other countries

Interpol lists some missing persons on their site. I don't know how complete it is. Puerto Rico is in NamUS.
https://www.interpol.int/notice/search/missing

 

[deedee21]

How can I view missing persons from other countries

Doe Network: International center for missing and UID persons.

 

[alawaysslueth]

 

[alawaysslueth]

I just created a twitter account for peachs

https://twitter.com/helpidentifyher