Toddler's Mother/Peaches/Jane Doe #3

[deedee21]

Interesting suggestion. Amityville is on Long Island.

Check the jewelry

Adding links to their case
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/w/westford_tiffany.html
http://www.forthelost.org/family/twestford.html
https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/8479/1/

The picture of the earring is a little blurry. But it does look like the child is wearing Claddagh earrings

 

[maddalena1]

The picture of the earring is a little blurry. But it does look like the child is wearing Claddagh earrings

Omg





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[maddalena1]

Dee, I really feel that you are on to something. Not able to explain why. It appears the father reported them missing. Is it possible the mom was turning tricks and brought the baby? Something feels like you found an answer but how could they prove It? That what sucks about this case is no follow through and no communication.

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[deedee21]

Dee, I really feel that you are on to something. Not able to explain why. It appears the father reported them missing. Is it possible the mom was turning tricks and brought the baby? Something feels like you found an answer but how could they prove It? That what sucks about this case is no follow through and no communication.

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Read the mothers profile. Whoever gave it is an oxymoron. LE should have questioned it.

 

[deedee21]

Dee, I really feel that you are on to something. Not able to explain why. It appears the father reported them missing. Is it possible the mom was turning tricks and brought the baby? Something feels like you found an answer but how could they prove It? That what sucks about this case is no follow through and no communication.

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I dont think its Peaches. The timeline is off.

 

[WesternArtist]

Port jervis, its 2 hours north west right up 280.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...0-prominent-nose-May-06&highlight=port+jervis
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/878ufny.html
https://www.identifyus.org/en/cases/16470

I didn't realize how close Port Jervis is. There is no estimated time of death and only the skull was found, so this could be her skull. There is insufficient DNA for profiling to know for sure. This case is very interesting because of the ritualistic way the skull was positioned.

On May 18, 2006, a homeowner in a residential area of the City of Port Jervis observed from his rear window a human cranium on the roof of an adjacent tire business. The skull, according to the witness, was not there the evening before. The cranium was located on a metal roof of a garage building for a local tire company. The skull appeared to have been set on the sloped roof. It was sitting up right and a single hoop earring was located near the skull on the roof. Broken sea shells were also observed near by but it is unknown if they are related.Anthropological studies on the skull indicate it belonged to a white female possible of Hispanic descent aged 25-50 years. There does not appear to be any indications of burial or submersion in water, nor is there any apparent trauma. The teeth appear to have been removed post-mortem and after the skull was skeletonized.
Port Jervis is located at the intersection of New York, New Jersey and Pennsylvania and is readily accessed from New York City and other metropolitan areas. Interstate 84, NY 17, US 6, US 209 and the NYS Thruway are all within close proximity or pass thru or by the city.

 

[WesternArtist]

The ritual element reminds me of this:

SLEEPS WITH FISHES - BIZARRE FIND AT GRAVE
DOUGLAS MONTERO and LEELA de KRESTER. New York Post. Douglas New York, N.Y. [New York, N.Y]25 Apr 2007: 017.

Yonkers cops are investigating the bizarre desecration of a freshly dug grave after a cemetery worker discovered four smoked fishes - gutted and stuffed with photographs of unidentified people - inside the tomb.

The fish were each wrapped in black cloth and had several spices accompanying them.
Police said the items appeared to be left behind as a part of a ritual in Santeria, a traditionalist African-Caribbean faith.
Lt. Tom Cleary said the fish were discovered Saturday in the open grave at St. Joseph's Cemetery on Truman Avenue.
"We think it might be one of these types of Santeria rituals, but we're not sure," Cleary told The Post.
He did not say if the person who was to be buried in the grave had any connection to the fish.
He said investigators don't believe the fish are connected to a macabre offering left at St. John's Cemetery, on Saw Mill River Road, on March 14.
In that incident, a large animal heart riddled with pins, a rubber rooster wrapped in a bandanna and a photograph of a smiling man dressed in a suit were left at the grave of Robert Newton Flagg, who died in 1897.
About six headstones were toppled and adorned with candles.
"That was more of a criminal mischief type of thing," Cleary said.
A worker at St. Joseph's said offerings were common in the cemetery.
"We sometimes have Santeria and we have some voodoo. Other times, we don't know what it is," the worker said.
The fish could have been left as an offering to "Yemaya," the goddess of the ocean in Santeria, an expert said yesterday.
Dr. Miguel De La Torre, a professor at the Iliff School of Theology in Denver, who wrote "Santeria: The Beliefs and Rituals of a Growing Religion in America," said that an offering to Yemaya would not be done to put a curse on somebody.
"She's a cosmic mother figure," De La Torre said. "She's not the sort of person you would invoke to do damage to somebody."
He said Yemaya's special day was Saturday and fish are usually sacrificed in her name.
But he said whoever left the fish at the cemetery appeared to be confused because normally, burial grounds would be the site of an offering to Oya, the goddess of death.
"Either the person doesn't know or understand it," De La Torre said. "There seems to be a bit of confusion here."

 

[darthorcinus]

This an interesting UIP to keep an eye on in any case. It's so bizarre. The Doe Network lists her estimated death date as being 1995 or earlier and it takes at least eleven years later for her skull to show up on that roof? Why then?

I get the feeling this isn't the last we'll see of her now that she's finally being entered into systems. However, with such little information to go on I don't know how we would even begin to determine whether it could be Peaches or anyone else...

 

[Melli]

When you spoke to the Tattoo man did you show him a photo of the girl? He maybe could identify her by that pic as peaches?

 

[digitective]

Tracey Collington was a 27-year-old African-American woman who went missing from Queens and was last seen in December 1994. https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/21491/

Queens is close to Long Island and came up in various clues on "The Killing Season" in relation to LISK. There aren't many details available about Tracey though, so I'm not sure if she had a tattoo or a child / C-section.

 

[digitective]

Sasha Davis and Selah Davis?

Mom and baby accompanied by a male (also missing) depart from Bronx for a visit to Rochester.
Seems like they made it to Rochester.

http://www.missingkids.com/poster/NCMC/1091315/1
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...months-amp-Jarib-Bennett-27-Bronx-15-Feb-2008
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/d/davis_sasha.html
https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/7428/7/
https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/10844/3/

Baby has a DNA sample, mom doesn't have. Age of the baby varies from source to source

I was also thinking about Sasha and Selah. NamUs says that Sasha had a tattoo on her left breast (that's where Peaches' peach tattoo was) but doesn't say what the tattoo was of: https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/10844/102
Plus, they were from the Bronx, right in NYC.

 

[Emre E]

Sasha and Selah Davis seem like a good potential but I do think Peaches Doe is Celina Janette Mays

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...er-Peaches-Jane-Doe-3&p=11955934#post11955934

... and If I am allowed to speculate, I think LE already knows this.

 

[Patience]

I also believe that Peaches is Celina May. I wonder if she ever ventured into Blackwood or was at Lordes medical Centre.

 

[carbuff]

I'm not seeing the Celina connection. Not at all.

 

[deedee21]

Peaches and the other UID's could possibly be identified through Parabon.
Especially Peaches. Theres no sketch of her.
Why hasnt this been done?
The FBI is involved in this case.
They have done it in othe cases.

 

[RLY138]

I don't think XOXO is an identifier on its own. It's more like a generic name of the fashion. What is more important is the exact pattern. Though it would still be futile considering these are just gold plated junk.

Still a pro in the business could tell when exactly this model was introduced. That would mean a lot for me.. Because until today I was thinking XOXO pattern was introduced in somewhere in 2000s... Thanks deedee..

And here; you can imagine some rant by me about the corruption of police and "the system" in general..

New here and forgive me if this has already been said a billion times but XOXO isn't a brand it's just "hugs and kisses". My mom gave me and my older sister the same bracelets in 1991 when I was 13 and she was 20. Years later I received a silver version with colored stones form a boyfriend circa 1997. In 2002 I bought my daughter a better quality gold and cubic off the wildwood boardwalk. As a kid I remember really wanting one as they were just as popular as name rings.....had to have one of those!
Think its just a generically produced hugs ans kisses bracelet.

 

[SacKing]

Ppl dont truly understand what a serial killer really is , its a huge web that is hard to untangle . Heres a hint the Army and Occult are involved this is how they know each other , the Army breeds them to be hitmen for their own personal gain lookup CIA projects such as Mk Ultra and bluebird and Majestic 12 . The Occult ties lead to heads of Govt they all Worship Lucifer and partake in human sacrafice after hundreds of years of this practice it was getting tough to explain all the missing ppl across the Country so the Coined the name Serial killers to lay the blame . Most Serial killers are MK Ultra slaves who kill who they are told and in turn are left alone to do their sick deeds with a blind eye . Manson Army , Dahmer army , Berkowitz army , Raider Army , the list goes on but you seeing the picture many more were some type of military , in one case Berkowitz told us plain as day he was the son of SAM as in Uncle Sam the Govt . I better stop ive already said too much do the research for yourself you will see the Army and Satanic Cults are connected to serial killers

 

[darthorcinus]

As someone said in another thread, the army and other military branches are often a big draw for future criminals and serial killers because they often lack direction and structure. They probably have a hard time keeping a job (because let's face it, not all of them are charming like Bundy) and need a place to go and so they turn to the services.

I love a good conspiracy as much as the next gal but I don't think that factors into this situation, imo.

 

[guardian1234]

Excellent point!

I agree this killer would have wanted the police to find this person and it may have been taking longer than he wanted so a call was place no tracking of the call was done?? he knew it would not be completed . this girl was found within 3 days right ? all the other girls were found shortly after their deaths also except the last girl ???? I am not sure if LISK did her or the boys at the house did ?

 

[Dogface]

I’m sorry to hijack this, but since Tiffany Susan Westford was discussed here, does anyone have any of the links to the mother on Mauritius? I lost my saved links when I failed to backup my phone.


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