Travis Alexander and Jodi Arias - What do you believe?

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Felony murder is still first degree murder. I wonder what this means? I wonder if sentencing is different for felony murder versus say premeditated murder?

All the law books say it is treated the same - but each state has its own penal code. Interesting.... maybe I'll look it up.

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I can't believe the trial is so far away. I remember watching the interview on TV - seems like ages ago!
 
I just checked the website and they denied Jodi's request for everything. I think they are finally getting as disgusted as we on about all of the postponements. :thumb:

But this request was also listed in the case history as of 2-24-2010.

NOTE: TO REQUEST FOR GREATER SPECIFICITY AS TO THE ALTERNATIVE CHARGE OF FELONY MURDER

They better not let her pled to a lesser charge and not go to trial, that would be so unfair to Travis. :furious:

Thanks so much, RIP~Travis. As you say, this is very good news: Apparently, the judge regards the Arias legal ploys as just desperate stalls.

I'm not worried about the note: I think that they just want more specificity for this second charge. (They haven't, as far as I can gather, dropped the first.)

I'm convinced that Jodi will insist on testifying.
 
Thanks so much, RIP~Travis. As you say, this is very good news: Apparently, the judge regards the Arias legal ploys as just desperate stalls.

I'm not worried about the note: I think that they just want more specificity for this second charge. (They haven't, as far as I can gather, dropped the first.)

I'm convinced that Jodi will insist on testifying.

BBM:
ITA Chanler...Jodi will insist on testifying, she does like to hear her own voice.

Just checked to see if there are any new court documents, and I see they have now scheduled an Evidentiary Hearing for March 12.

Status conference is set for March 11.

http://www.courtminutes.maricopa.gov/docs/Criminal/032010/m4122567.pdf
 
I bet she will testify and likely against the advice of her counsel.

If anyone gets the info about the hearing from yesterday, can you post it?
 
I bet she will testify and likely against the advice of her counsel.

If anyone gets the info about the hearing from yesterday, can you post it?

And here it is:

http://www.courtminutes.maricopa.gov/docs/Criminal/032010/m4139370.pdf

A few interesting points:
1. Jodi was present. Apparently, the judge's admonishment worked.

2. The additional charge is second degree burglary! Most likely, something was taken from Travis' house and perhaps found among her possessions. To my very untrained mind, it seems like the defense doesn't know what it is and is panicked. The judge, quite understandably, is allowing them to have more information, although I'm certain the prosecution will keep it as vague as possible.

3. I suspect that the burglary charge is incidental to the theft's real importance: It will knot Jodi even closer to the brutal homicide and strengthen the case for premeditation. Apparently, she didn't call the police or report the crime, but she did have time to fetch her own belongings and steal something of his.

4. The defense apparently wants a protective order imposed on the CBS 48 Hours material, but hasn't filed a request for a protective order. To me, Jodi's interviews would be among the very first things a competent legal team would be fighting to keep out. I'm surprised that they still have provided the paperwork. (I'm not certain but I think that if she chooses to testify, at least the transcripts of her interviews become fair game for cross-examination.)
 
This is from a recent (2008) legal ruling in the very county where Jodi will be tried.

http://www.superiorcourt.maricopa.g...ases/Rulings/rulingsReaditem.asp?autonumb=289

[The paragraph breaks in my copy don't necessarily match those of the original document, but the flow is clear. Sorry.]

THE COURT FINDS the Defendant has failed to produce sufficient facts to support the Defendant’s Motion to Suppress “Press Conference” Statements.

A person in police custody who knowingly and voluntarily assents to a press interview cannot invoke his Miranda rights in order to suppress statements made during the press interviews unless evidence shows compelling influences forced him to be interviewed. Ritchie v. State, 875 N.E.2d 706 (Ind. 2007). See also Roberson v. State, 265 Ga. 658 (1995). Although the police may set up and allow for a press interview, the questioning of the media does not constitute police action. In Ritchie v. State, local press requested an interview with the Defendant, who was in police custody. 875 N.E.2d at 716. The Defendant consented to the interview, signed an “Interview Release” form and did not ask for a lawyer. Id.

When the State used statements made during the press conference at trial, the Defendant claimed he considered the interviews “actions on the part of the police” and violated his Miranda rights. Id. The Defendant based the violation on the facts that the police asked if he was willing to be interviewed, created the opportunity for the interviews to occur, established the interview conditions, and knew the questions could elicit incriminating information. Id. The Defendant made statements voluntarily to the media rather than within a custodial interrogation. Id. at 717. While the police permitted the interviews, the media began and directed the questioning. Id.

“The essential ingredients of a ‘police-dominated atmosphere’ and compulsion are not present when an incarcerated person speaks freely to someone whom he believes is not an officer.” Id. If the reporters’ actions could be considered action of the policy, procedural safeguards used effectively “secure the privilege against self-incrimination.” Id. The Defendant knew “of his right to counsel in writing before the interviews.” Id. The Defendant did “not contend he [misunderstood] the ‘Interview Release’ form” or “that the police coerced him into signing the form.” Id. “Any statement given freely and voluntarily without any compelling influences is, of course, admissible in evidence.” Id.

In Roberson v. State, the press interviewed the Defendants while in custody at the jailhouse. 265 Ga. at 659. Before the interviews, the Defendants voluntarily assented to the interviews by signing a waiver form, recognizing they had a right to refuse to be interview and could end the interviews at any time. Id. The Defendants “previously had invoked their right to counsel,” but a lawyer had yet to be appointed. Id. The Deputy Sheriffs remained in the room during the interviews, but did not propose or ask a single question during the interviews. Id. Although the interviews would not have occurred without the help of the Sheriff’s office, the press conducted the interviews and was not acting as agents of the police. Id. It is not the responsibility of the State to prevent the Defendants from making incriminating statements to the press when they agree to speak with them. Id.at 660.

Hausner, like the Defendants in Ritchie and Roberson, voluntarily assented to the interviews and signed the waiver form. According the testimony provided by the State’s witness, a police officer read the form to Hausner, passed the form to him, watched Hausner read the form and sign it. At no point during this transaction did Hausner ask to speak with his lawyer before signing the form nor did he indicate that he did not understand the form or what action it permitted. Although Hausner argues that he thought he signed the form in order to receive a blanket, his testimony was inconsistent with the Public Information Officer regarding this argument and the Court finds the officer was more credible and her testimony is corroborated by the other evidence presented. The form is clear on its face.

There is no ambiguity what it is. Furthermore, Hausner made two phone calls after the press interview during which he asked if the person with whom he spoke had seen him on television. During these conversations, Hausner did not indicate that he felt confused, shocked or bewildered by the appearance of the press and questioning by the media.

The defense argues that the police should have waited for the Court appointed lawyer to arrive before escorting Hausner to the press conference. However, as demonstrated in referenced case law and testimony provided at the hearing, Hausner could have refused to sign the form until his attorney had arrived. As mentioned in Roberson and during the evidentiary hearing, it is not the responsibility of the State to prevent a person from making incriminating statements to the press.

According,
IT IS ORDERED that the Defendant’s Motion to Suppress “Press Conference” Statements is denied.

My note: If I were, god forbid, a prosecuting attorney, I would present Jodi's video interviews in chronological order, noting how much she knew about the evidence against her at each stage. Of course, admitting them into evidence would probably increase the likelihood of Jodi testifying, because in effect, she already would be.
 
Hi Chanler, long time no speak :)

Question for you. I have a rough idea of the role a Special Master plays in a death penalty case, but can you outline it for me?

Hi, Knox, I hope that you are well. I'm no legal expert, much less an Arizona legal expert, but from what I've read a Special Master is a sort of Super Judge, appointed to rule on contentious issues and charges of conflict of interest. It seems as if in Maricopa County, the need arose because the county prosecuting attorney has made serious (and according to some, unsubstantiated) charges against a sitting judge. In the Jodi Arias case, defense lawyers seem to have argued in effect that with such charges in the air, other judges might be afraid to rule against the prosecuting attorney. (In other states, I've heard of judges handing a legal decision to another judge because of a possible conflict of interest.)

The whole thing is fascinating--and messy. Just yesterday, a new appointment was made. It seems like the County District Attorney might be in trouble:
http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarep...24/20100324andrew-thomas-case-evaluation.html

I think that all this won't endanger the Travis Alexander murder case although I think that it might possibly cause a short postponement.

This provides some information:

http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/valleyfever/2009/12/ruth_mcgregor_former_az_suprem.php

http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/valleyfever/2009/12/county_attorneys_office_should.php
According to a press release from the court, McGregor will be tasked with "administering" all matters arising from the controversy, including the motions filed by defense attorneys, asking that the county attorney be disqualified from prosecuting criminal cases.

Berch ordered that "the Special Master shall have the power to appoint judges to hear cases, motions, and preliminary matters, and to assign, reassign, expedite, or consolidate cases, or take such other actions as may be necessary or appropriate in these matters to ensure the swift, fair, and impartial administration of justice."



According to the order from Justice Berch, the appointment is a necessity:

These investigations, cases, motions, and allegations, particularly the allegations of conflicts of interest and a conspiracy among the members of the Board of Supervisors and certain judges, including the Presiding Judge, have the potential to impair that court's ability to carry out its responsibilities and threaten the perception of impartial justice. More significantly, if a true conflict is found to exist requiring the transfer of all criminal cases prosecuted by the Maricopa County Attorney's Office to out-of-county judges, a public safety emergency would arise.

Berch ordered "that the Special Master shall have access to all records and information necessary to carry out her duties and, if needed, may issue subpoenas and hold hearings."
 
Thanks for all the recent information you have found Chanler!

From Chanler's post above and BBM:

THE COURT FINDS the Defendant has failed to produce sufficient facts to support the Defendant’s Motion to Suppress “Press Conference” Statements.

A person in police custody who knowingly and voluntarily assents to a press interview cannot invoke his Miranda rights in order to suppress statements made during the press interviews unless evidence shows compelling influences forced him to be interviewed. Ritchie v. State, 875 N.E.2d 706 (Ind. 2007). See also Roberson v. State, 265 Ga. 658 (1995). Although the police may set up and allow for a press interview, the questioning of the media does not constitute police action. In Ritchie v. State, local press requested an interview with the Defendant, who was in police custody. 875 N.E.2d at 716. The Defendant consented to the interview, signed an “Interview Release” form and did not ask for a lawyer.

I think her counsel is going to have a hard time getting evidence to prove there was compelling influence forcing her to be interviewed. If you watch all her interviews, she's very happy to discuss it with anyone who will listen.

It may be bad news for her and her counsel that they can't supress these interviews (especially 48 Hours), though it's great news for the State, and I completely agree with you Chanler, if I was the prosecuting attorney, I'd be showing them in chronological order also, because it's clear when she gets new information about the evidence found, her story changes to suit the new evidence.

I wonder "keepsake" she took from Travis' residence?
 
Yes, thank you again Chanler for the info you provided, always a pleasure reading your posts. Looking forward to discussing the case once the trial starts.

Sad commentary when trials are postponed time and again ... IMO, it re-victimizes family's and loved one's of the murdered. I wish there could be a hard-fast judicial rule in US murder's; Cases are to come to trial in twelve months, period with no impact on appeals!!
 
Yes, thank you again Chanler for the info you provided, always a pleasure reading your posts. Looking forward to discussing the case once the trial starts.

Sad commentary when trials are postponed time and again ... IMO, it re-victimizes family's and loved one's of the murdered. I wish there could be a hard-fast judicial rule in US murder's; Cases are to come to trial in twelve months, period with no impact on appeals!!

BBM I so agree on this. It seems that trials are fair from speedy these days.
 
Yes, thank you again Chanler for the info you provided, always a pleasure reading your posts. Looking forward to discussing the case once the trial starts.

Sad commentary when trials are postponed time and again ... IMO, it re-victimizes family's and loved one's of the murdered. I wish there could be a hard-fast judicial rule in US murder's; Cases are to come to trial in twelve months, period with no impact on appeals!!

I wish this would happen in Canada also. We just recently had a trial in Ontario and the murder happened three agos, so I still have to say that trials in the US are far speedier than in Canada. I'm not sure about the United States, though in Canada we need a unanimous agreement (either guilty or innocent) otherwise we get a mistrial, and the accused possibly gets tried all over again. I completely agree with you Knox that it does victimize the family and loved one's, and it must be extremely hard to sit and wait until a case comes to trial.
 
I was reading this thread this morning. I had watched the 48 hours, but out of all the cases that have fascinated me over the years, this was not one of them. While tragic, it seemed rather cut-and-dry.

The random thought I just had in the shower was this:

Do you think that this tale, of the "good mormon boy" who met a Jezebel who first took him down the path of premarital sex and illicit actions (naked pictures for example), and this is what occurred? Do you think this story will come up in talks with young men in the church?
 
indicajane, I don't have knowledge of how the church operates to know if they would talk about this or not. In my own experience, most churches I've attended didn't seem to talk about things like this or bring it forth as a lesson of sorts. (JMO)

I think what caught my interest in the case was Jodi's interview. I guess I found her manner and personality in the interview rather curious. I believe she is guilty of the crime of murder but that is JMO.
 
I wasn't thinking of like a sermon or anything.
What I do know from growing up in AZ (among other locations) is that teenagers (mostly boys I knew, although I know some girls do go) on "mission".
Just sounds like a story someone would privately tell these sheltered kids going away for the first time.
 
I wasn't thinking of like a sermon or anything.
What I do know from growing up in AZ (among other locations) is that teenagers (mostly boys I knew, although I know some girls do go) on "mission".
Just sounds like a story someone would privately tell these sheltered kids going away for the first time.

In my opinion it would be of importance to warn these sheltered kids of things they could face in their lives. All the church group type meetings that I've ever been to seem to be quiet about everything. I don't want to say they are 'hush hush' when something terrible happens, but they never seemed to talk about it openly. Since I'm not of the same faith as these people, I don't know how they prepare them for their "mission".

Is the "mission" where they go out 'into the world' and make a decision about their faith? I'm not very familiar with the teachings of the Mormon faith. I apologize if my question seems stupid.
 
In my opinion it would be of importance to warn these sheltered kids of things they could face in their lives. All the church group type meetings that I've ever been to seem to be quiet about everything. I don't want to say they are 'hush hush' when something terrible happens, but they never seemed to talk about it openly. Since I'm not of the same faith as these people, I don't know how they prepare them for their "mission".

Is the "mission" where they go out 'into the world' and make a decision about their faith? I'm not very familiar with the teachings of the Mormom faith. I apologize if my question seems stupid.

Hi, Boyz Mom; nobody who reads your posts would think of you as stupid.

I'm not a Mormon, although I've read a lot about them. Young Mormons, especially males, go on missions of conversion. They travel in pairs often to remote places and preach in a friendly, generally low key way. As you might imagine, these missions away from home are often later viewed as important formative experiences. From what I can gather, these young people are prepared quite well for their missions. I'm a non-believer, but I am impressed.
 
I wasn't thinking of like a sermon or anything.
What I do know from growing up in AZ (among other locations) is that teenagers (mostly boys I knew, although I know some girls do go) on "mission".
Just sounds like a story someone would privately tell these sheltered kids going away for the first time.

Hi, Indicajane; I like your notes. I think that Jodi's Jezebel image helped complicate this whole story. Travis' friends (including his business benefactor) regarded Jodi as the seductress who had stolen his virginity and they probably regarded her Mormon conversion as simply as an opportunistic device to snare him. (They also saw her, quite accurately, as jealous and scheming.) This helped drive their relationship semi-underground and effectively excluded her as a marriage partner.

But painting Jodi as a Jezebel also worked to Travis' advantage. They not only secretly or semi-secretly continued their sexual relationship intermittently; according to the police, they exchanged thousands of emails. It also reinforced the image that Travis projected as a winning, lovable, hopelessly single, pure, late twentysomething Mormon, a persona that made him more sympathetic to both his friends and, obviously, single women. We know that Travis led a double life: It's possible that in his business travels to other cities, he had other relationships also unknown to his friends.

Obviously, none of this makes Jodi any less culpable for his murder. What it does do is to reveal Travis a little less naive about the relationship. He was no babe in the woods: At the time of his death, he was a successful, hard-working, very ambitious 30-year-old businessman who seemed not to be lacking in self-esteem. He had a big, engaging personality and was very good at selling himself. When Jodi entered his life, she seemed to be hunting obsessively for a permanent squeeze and he would strike many as a prime candidate.
 
Hi, Boyz Mom; nobody who reads your posts would think of you as stupid.

I'm not a Mormon, although I've read a lot about them. Young Mormons, especially males, go on missions of conversion. They travel in pairs often to remote places and preach in a friendly, generally low key way. As you might imagine, these missions away from home are often later viewed as important formative experiences. From what I can gather, these young people are prepared quite well for their missions. I'm a non-believer, but I am impressed.

Thanks Chanler. I think when I was trying to recall what "missions" were, I was thinking of 'Rumspringa' (?) or whatever it's called when the Amish (?) go out in the world. Boy, I was mixed up!
 
Two defeats for Jodi. If she had won, the case would likely be postponed. Even though she is in jail, she seems in no rush to get to trial, perhaps an indication of the weakness of her case.

As for the oral arguments: Evidently, Jodi and her lawyers are worried about the contents of all the emails and text messages. In addition to highlighting the voltage of her relationship with Travis, these often purely spontaneous messages might contain some venting communications to her girlfriends about his duplicity or how they were destined to be together.

I wonder if Jodi will be present at the oral arguments.

http://www.courtminutes.maricopa.gov/docs/Criminal/042010/m4168404.pdf
IT IS HEREBY ORDERED that defendant’s Motion to Reconsider Defendant’s Motion to Disqualify the Maricopa County Attorney’s Office is DENIED. Also DENIED are defendant’s Motion to Join [other] Superior Court [Case] Nos. and Renewed Request for Evidentiary Hearing and Oral Argument.

http://www.courtminutes.maricopa.gov/docs/Criminal/042010/m4167700.pdf
ORAL ARGUMENT SET
The Court has received Defendant’s Motion to Compel Text Messages and E-Mails Obtained from the Victim’s Phone and or any of His E-Mail Accounts filed on 04/05/2010. IT IS ORDERED setting oral argument on April 16, 2010 at 10:30 a.m. to be heard in conjunction with the Capital Case Management Conference.
 
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