trial day 43: the defense continues its case in chief #131

[Bravo]

No, go and enjoy Starbucks and Cinnabon, knowing that Jodi will never have them ever again! Don't let her ruin them for you. I certainly haven't!!!

For sure. It makes me enjoy them that much more lol. Hope your feeling better now LinasK :seeya:

 

[camcneishg]

I have a question that has probably been answered already....but ALV mentioned something on the stand that she could walk off of a case at any time.....what would happen if she did that??

 

[Mellinyce]

:truce: Welcome Aboard :truce:

:truce:Hehe!:truce:

 

[panthera]

I kinda feel sorry for Nurmi. He sure doesn't look like his heart is into this. He can barely motivate himself to pick up his pen and write anything, he is slumped in his chair with a look of utter disgust on his face (which I now don't think is directed at JM), he takes little catnaps, when he walks up to the judges bench with his head tucked and chin on his chest he looks like he is doing the walk of shame, and he has separated himself from Wilma and Einstein at the end of the table. He and Wilma barely chat it up in consult anymore. He clocks in, clocks out. Does his 8 and hits the gate. He looks like he is there against his will, hoping this hell will end soon and he still has enough remains of a reputation to scrape together.
Anyone else get this vibe?

He most definitely gives the impression he is not into the last two witnesses, and especially this one. Perhaps because ALV and Nurmi are on opposite planes? ALV who has an obvious dislike for men, as all men are the abusers (and not the women), and Nurmi who has specialized in defending sex offenders, who are normally men? I highly doubt this witness was one of Nurmi's choice. Also, could it be JA wasn't quite as honest with him when she was testifying? He did appear to have to lead her to the answers he needed. It really does appear he does not want to be in the courtroom.

MOO

 

[JusticeJunkie]

Alyce looks like she's aged twenty years since last week. I just heard on NG that there's so many jurors questions that they haven't been able to count them yet. My worry is that ALV will go out in a wheelchair crying into her hanky then forget about it and keep testifying in cases. . I call it shotty spotty work if she didn't consider Jodi being the possible abuser, liar, stalker, killer, premeditated murderess. I guess Alyce never considered it.:doh:

Curious, If ALV is in a wheelchair, she'll have to push it herself, because there will be no court personnel left. They all got the shaft because ALV spent all their money!!
Really sad to think of all the money being spent on something like this.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

WoW!! What a day you guys!! Our Juan is just so.. Well, he's just so damn Juanderful and I fully believe this is NOT just about his winning a case as a Prosecutor.. IMO he is fighting so hard for Travis!! He is fighting to right what wrong this evil creature has done ON TOP OF SLAUGHTERING HIM.. As in not only is he fighting for JUSTICE for Travis in seeing his killer convicted and sentenced to death, but just as important Juan is going way above and beyond just what is his duty as Prosecutor.. He is setting the record straight about the slaughtering of Travis' character and who he was as a living, breathing, innocent man.. The slaughtering of his character that this vile being and her team have done throughout this trial.. IMO this is exactly why we see Juan fighting so diligently and determined with a relentless fierceness that literally covers me in goosebumps as I watch him in action with that exact fierce determination for Travis and his loved ones!!

This man is doing what's only right and IMO its just the way Juan is, its what he is made of, and its what makes him the sharp *advertiser censored* Prosecutor that he is.. And I must say I have such respect and admiration for this man that goes sooooooo waaaay far beyond just crushing on the Prosecutor of a high profile case.. I very much believe that what Juan's made of is exactly what fuels the awe inspiring way in which he handles himself, the case, and most importantly the victim and their loved ones for whose behalf that is fighting this fierce battle ..

It's exactly why I, for one saw nothing even remotely humorous with ALV's straight outta the gate remark of, "Mr. Martinez are you mad at me for something?".. I was livid because I feel as tho it's glaringly obvious why this Prosecutor is forced to have the aggressive demeanor with ALV, Dr. Dick, and especially with the murderer, herself. He's forced to due to blasphemous, blatant, slanderous lies with which they have chosen to testify to in this court of law.. Yes, Miss ALV there is a damn good reason for why the Prosecutor comes outta the gate aggressively and straight to the point.. It's a direct result of your having chosen to take part in the slaughtering of an already slaughtered man's character, memory, and any legacy this innocent, young man had made for himself In his extremely, short life here on this earth!!*

Juan is righting the wrong for which you, Miss ALV and the other paid circus performers have blatantly taken part in.. So, instead of being a smart *advertiser censored*, fame wh*re under the guise of DV expert witness you should sit down, STFU, and answer the Prosecutors questions with yes and/or no so that you may.. So that may just walk away from this extremely poor choice on your part with some tiny semblance of a continued or future career in your field.. If you so choose not to take that advice then you and your little boxing ring groupies will be the only people that you will ever, ever, ever dream of having in your corner or on your side Miss LaViolette..

Juan will succeed and the exact reason that he will succeed is because this man Absolutely has what it takes to get this huge job done in fighting and winning justice for Travis' being slaughtered in successfully convicting this defendant to death row.. As well as he will also succeed in righting the wrong that's taken place in this very courtroom of again slaughtering Travis Victor Alexander's character, life lived, memory, and legacy left behind from his extremely short life here on this earth!

IMO that's exactly what this about, IMO that's exactly what the hell matters, and IMO you damn well better believe that is exactly what the hell this Prosecutor, Juan Martinez will see through to fruition.. You know why? *Because that's what this man is all about and that's what this man is made of and he has exactly what it takes to demand these things on behalf of this victim, Travis Alexander and his many loved ones!!!!!

And that my friends is exactly what I fully believe we will witness.. I have faith in this jury that they are right there with Juan and IMO they want to see justice served on behalf of the ONE AND ONLY VICTIM THERE IS IN THIS CASE, TRAVIS!

Your post is awesome, SmoothOperator! I will sleep better tonight.

:tyou:

 

[PPKik]

I agree to a certain extent. But, if she's going to be touted as an expert and getting the pay of an expert, then it is her job to know what she is talking about and update herself to relevancy.

I not only agree, but question what was kept from her. She's been on the case for years, and whatever her role really is, she had a duty to ask for everything they had. Although the DT is totally reprehensible in their tactics and style, I do believe ALV is lying about not being told. I think she knows everything needed to know and more, and has perversely chosen to lie for a murderer.

 

[Mellinyce]

You're taking it the wrong way. I don't post because of the grammar police.

:truce::seeya:

 

[TXHoney]

Oh man, this case is taking over my life. I'm transcribing a file right now and the guy is talking about his lawyer...called Legal Shield.

:headbang:

 

[scorpio24]

Aww, really? ... Stick around. I don't see any grammar police. I am interested in everyone's take. :fence:

Me, too! And fiddlesticks! I'm Southern! We make our own grammar rules.

(Of course, we're not all Einsteins down here...)

 

[SyraKelly]

Aww, really? ... Stick around. I don't see any grammar police. I am interested in everyone's take. :fence:

I have the worst grammar & no one has ever corrected me.We are very respectful here!

 

[Lorelilly]

I kinda feel sorry for Nurmi. He sure doesn't look like his heart is into this. He can barely motivate himself to pick up his pen and write anything, he is slumped in his chair with a look of utter disgust on his face (which I now don't think is directed at JM), he takes little catnaps, when he walks up to the judges bench with his head tucked and chin on his chest he looks like he is doing the walk of shame, and he has separated himself from Wilma and Einstein at the end of the table. He and Wilma barely chat it up in consult anymore. He clocks in, clocks out. Does his 8 and hits the gate. He looks like he is there against his will, hoping this hell will end soon and he still has enough remains of a reputation to scrape together.
Anyone else get this vibe?

They ALL got sucked into the Black Hole that is Jodi. You want to dance with the devil do so at your own risk. - Jodi is now a 4 Hole Wonder. (i used that phrase yesterday and loved it. tee hee)

 

[kscornfed]

Right now JM is impeaching ALV via Jodi's "incomplete" journal entries, i.e. "would it change your assessment if you knew ...." stuff. Do y'all think at some point Juan will claim/prove the journals ALV relied on are fake replicas JA produced in the 5-6 weeks before she was arrested? If so, would he do that during rebuttal?

I don't know why he can't say something like 'you have no way of knowing when these were written, do you?'

And when are we going to get to the entries that are so obviously made up? Like after the murder?

Are those entries in evidence???

 

[Sleuth5]

I kinda feel sorry for Nurmi. He sure doesn't look like his heart is into this. He can barely motivate himself to pick up his pen and write anything, he is slumped in his chair with a look of utter disgust on his face (which I now don't think is directed at JM), he takes little catnaps, when he walks up to the judges bench with his head tucked and chin on his chest he looks like he is doing the walk of shame, and he has separated himself from Wilma and Einstein at the end of the table. He and Wilma barely chat it up in consult anymore. He clocks in, clocks out. Does his 8 and hits the gate. He looks like he is there against his will, hoping this hell will end soon and he still has enough remains of a reputation to scrape together.
Anyone else get this vibe?

I don't think he's very happy with JM's handling of "her" part of the case at thi point. Let's face it, it's not really going well.

 

[sysmanager1963]

:blushing:Not to be shallow....but I can listen to JM say "Bobby Juarez" all night!:blushing:

I've often thought the same thing. Have you ever noticed he can even make Arias sound good......is that possible?

 

[LaneGirl]

I don't think Nurmi has checked out, I think he is watching the jury.

 

[rachael123]

My guess Boss,she got a call move it along.Stopped the sidebars and added a day.Her tone has changed.

I wonder why... complaints from the jury? or complaints from her boss?



WagaraTapaTalk

 

[pip]

Wilmott looks totally po'ed--and now the judge is blowing off most of her objections I think her head might explode. I think she truly thought she was good enough to beat Juan. Probably a mistake.

Nurmi, despite his crazy motions, doesn't seem to be taking this so personally. Nurmi has always realized that the only point of this case is to try and keep JA alive. I don't think wilmott has realized this.

Sometimes when I see Nurmi watching Juan, he seems almost admiring of Juan's strategy--on a lawyer to lawyer level.

The only 2 highlight's in Nurmster's day.. Watching a real pro in action, and lunch break.

He does look a bit mesmerized by JM. I agree.

 

[Curious Me]

I hope Juan starts tomorrow of with

stalk
verb
Definition of STALK
intransitive verb
1
: to pursue quarry or prey stealthily
2
: to walk stiffly or haughtily
transitive verb
1
: to pursue by stalking
2
: to go through (an area) in search of prey or quarry <stalk the woods for deer>
3
: to pursue obsessively and to the point of harassment
&#8212; stalk·er noun
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/stalk

ALV will say, "But I don't understand, Mr. Martinez. I am just a domestic violence expert. I am not a stalking nor an orgasm expert, oh and I'm not an anal sex expert either. Jodi said she was peeling apples outside while peeking into his window late one night when she cut her finger."

 

[chakti]

Seems so odd to me. Maybe one of our lawyers can tell us if this is normal or not but it seems, on the face of it, amateurish.

I'm not a lawyer but I learned this in the CA case. I believe a report is pretty much explaing their conclusion and what they used to reach it. Once they write a report it has to be turned over to both parties. If they don't turn in a report they can tell the defence what is what and then leave JM with just their notes. That is why JM is useing her notes instead of her report.