Whack A Mole
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Is there any OTHER place to get gas?
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Ask my dog...he has a never end supply :hills:
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Is there any OTHER place to get gas?
:O
Ok, a question for the veteran trial watchers..lets say the jury comes back with a guilty verdict on Friday, how long until they start to decide on life or death? Is it right after? Hope someone can answer, Thanks!
I am seriously considering taking the following Monday off of work. I did this for the CA verdict. Nerd, I know. But since we can't predict how long they'll deliberate, I don't know what day to take - Monday or Tuesday... Wednesday? Hmmm....
I think he is being called to trash Dr. Demarte. He will conclude any/all of the following:
She is too inexperienced
She administered the wrong tests
She gave the tests improperly
Her interpretation of the testing was incorrect
Dr. Samuels rescoring was ok
Dr. Alyce's 44 hours with the defendant should be the determining factor, she knows Jodi!
Beans.
When Jodi claimed she jumped up to that very high far corner of the shelf to retrieve Travis gun, that was her total undoing.
First, the jury realizes Travis never had a gun because he would have had box of shells, a gun cleaning kit, and a holster (think jodi even claimed this too).
Secondly, every juror is looking at that tall shelf in the picture and realizes how hard it would be to get up there especially with someone chasing them and they realize she probably would not have had the time to make it up to that spot the way she claims.
Thirdly, the shelves were not disturbed and in a rush like she claimed something would likely have been moved.
Fourthly, the shelves may not have even supported her weight if she jumped up on them in a hurry.
Fifthly, and most importantly the coincidence of the .25 being stolen at Grams and that matched the shell casing on floor.
So in summary, it all comes down to this story is just not believable to common sense. This is critical because the jury realizes Jodi lied to them directly. This means she probably lied about other things too.
IMO, I feel this part of her testimony was a critical part in her undoing. She went way too far in her lies and this part is a perfect example.
ETA: Added the 5th most important reason above.
Now that we are getting closer to a verdict, I am really starting to worry about what this jury might think they know about crime that would influence their deliberations.
For example, in the William Kennedy rape trial, one of the jurors said later that it was impossible for her to believe that he could have been guilty because he was an attractive doctor and member of an influential family and could get all the girls he wanted without resorting to rape. Whether he was guilty or not, it is just not true that rapists are acting from sexual deprivation!
I see people online commenting that Jodi Arias can't be guilty of first degree murder because it was clearly a crime of passion. Now in popular usage, a crime of passion means that someone acts without premeditation because of sudden emotion, for example in the course of an argument.
But some people seem to think that if the crime reveals passion - ie violence involving 'overkill' such as in this case, it can't have been premeditated. That is just not true. People are perfectly capable of being angry with someone for days or even years and then deciding to go kill them. It may sound odd to me or you that someone could sustain such anger for an extended period of time but it's perfectly possible for someone to stew over something and premeditate murder. I can imagine Jodi becoming angry with Travis, planning to kill him, and sustaining that anger for days and days. She may have even hoped she could win him back and he would take her to Cancun but once he made it clear he didn't want her anymore, her rage was boundless.
Is anyone else worried or is it just me obsessing?
Congrats! It does not seem like 10 YEARS! I guess that is a good thing!
O/T~ The first trial I watched on TV was OJ. Phil Spector was pretty good too.
The only sad thing Rose, is that , I bet at verdict time it's going to be pretty hard to get on here.
Now that manslaughter will be among the charges for the jury to consider, is anyone worried about the possibility of a conviction on one of the lesser charges - second degree or manslaughter? I'm not feeling quite as confident about 1st degree pre-meditated murder as I was earlier in the trial. :blushing:
Now that manslaughter will be among the charges for the jury to consider, is anyone worried about the possibility of a conviction on one of the lesser charges - second degree or manslaughter? I'm not feeling quite as confident about 1st degree pre-meditated murder as I was earlier in the trial. :blushing:
Please, please. Do NOT even tempt me. I'd love to watch that trial - it's going to be a good one, but I really have to get back to life at some point. lol
Congrats! It does not seem like 10 YEARS! I guess that is a good thing!
Now that we are getting closer to a verdict, I am really starting to worry about what this jury might think they know about crime that would influence their deliberations.
For example, in the William Kennedy rape trial, one of the jurors said later that it was impossible for her to believe that he could have been guilty because he was an attractive doctor and member of an influential family and could get all the girls he wanted without resorting to rape. Whether he was guilty or not, it is just not true that rapists are acting from sexual deprivation!
I see people online commenting that Jodi Arias can't be guilty of first degree murder because it was clearly a crime of passion. Now in popular usage, a crime of passion means that someone acts without premeditation because of sudden emotion, for example in the course of an argument.
But some people seem to think that if the crime reveals passion - ie violence involving 'overkill' such as in this case, it can't have been premeditated. That is just not true. People are perfectly capable of being angry with someone for days or even years and then deciding to go kill them. It may sound odd to me or you that someone could sustain such anger for an extended period of time but it's perfectly possible for someone to stew over something and premeditate murder. I can imagine Jodi becoming angry with Travis, planning to kill him, and sustaining that anger for days and days. She may have even hoped she could win him back and he would take her to Cancun but once he made it clear he didn't want her anymore, her rage was boundless.
Is anyone else worried or is it just me obsessing?
Wait til you get to 45 years!!:floorlaugh::floorlaugh: Seriously, I have a winner and we are still best friends. We make each other laugh a lot. Total opposites. We complete each other.