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She may have aged during the trial. I know I have!The judge is only 66. That surprises me she looks quite frail
She may have aged during the trial. I know I have!The judge is only 66. That surprises me she looks quite frail
Oscar Pistorius Trial: Monday 14 April 2014, Session 3 - YouTube
At 46 mins into the above video is where OP testifies he was trying to find his socks on
the floor.
I don't believe that he was on his stumps either but find it bizarre that he's claiming to be looking for not just his prosthetics in the dark with his gun in his hand, but also his socks.
Apologies to the mods but I can't work out how to just post the link to the video instead of it embedding in my post.
Just a slight correction He jumped onto the bottom of the bed at the left hand side with a cocked gun in his hand, manoeuvred himself over to the right hand side all the time facing the bathroom passage (and deducted from this that Reeva wasn't on the bed) felt around the curtain area for Reeva with cocked gun in hand, went back to the bathroom with cocked gun in hand to shoulder the door, then went back to the bedroom with cocked gun in hand, unlocked and opened the balcony doors with cocked gun in hand, put on prosthetics and socks with cocked gun in hand and then went back to the bathroom where he put the gun down.
I can't help thinking that Nel has kept lots of stuff back to use in X-exam of the defense witnesses.
Bedroom door damage/blood on watch case etc etc.
I still feel as though he has some major things up his sleeve for the grand finale.
He quizzed OP on the duvet and blood spatter etc and got OP to say it must have been caused when he came back into the bedroom to get his phones...............after holding Reeva in the toilet after shooting her.
Well.............my eureka moment lol.................if that was the case then he would have been covered in blood so where are the bloody footprints coming back down the corridor and into the bedroom and back again?
Is Nel keeping this for the coup de grace or have I missed an explanation for this somewhere?
I can't help thinking that Nel has kept lots of stuff back to use in X-exam of the defense witnesses.
Bedroom door damage/blood on watch case etc etc.
I still feel as though he has some major things up his sleeve for the grand finale.
He quizzed OP on the duvet and blood spatter etc and got OP to say it must have been caused when he came back into the bedroom to get his phones...............after holding Reeva in the toilet after shooting her.
Well.............my eureka moment lol.................if that was the case then he would have been covered in blood so where are the bloody footprints coming back down the corridor and into the bedroom and back again?
Is Nel keeping this for the coup de grace or have I missed an explanation for this somewhere?
BBM - Well, if I have to imagine myself to be OP, I must accept I am a trigger-happy denier of everything that's been proved to me. I must accept it is okay to be reckless, blame other people for my wrongdoings, accuse anyone and everyone (who doesn't agree with my 'version') of lying, assume the world starts and ends with me, shoot a dog in the back of the head after running it over and say nothing to the owner (who is standing right there) shoot a gun in a restaurant (with a child at the next table) and then categorically deny my finger was ever on the trigger, get my friend to take the blame, and then deny I got my friend to take the blame... and so on and so forth.Don't be sure about that. I can turn on a dime, but so far all I see is more and more confirmation that OP is telling the truth, more or less.
What I believe people do is to put themselves in OP's situation without regard to the context and say "this is what I'd do." That doesn't work for me. It's a non-starter AFAIC. The only to get OP is to imagine what it must be like to be HIM, not US in HIS position.
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Oscar Pistorius Trial: Monday 14 April 2014, Session 3 - YouTube
At 46 mins into the above video is where OP testifies he was trying to find his socks on
the floor.
I don't believe that he was on his stumps either but find it bizarre that he's claiming to be looking for not just his prosthetics in the dark with his gun in his hand, but also his socks.
Apologies to the mods but I can't work out how to just post the link to the video instead of it embedding in my post.
He lied in so many places I lost count. It was like 10/15 mins in and he was already contradicting his bail statement on the balcony, let alone all the other stuff...
BBM - Well, if I have to imagine myself to be OP, I must accept I am a trigger-happy denier of everything that's been proved to me. I must accept it is okay to be reckless, blame other people for my wrongdoings, accuse anyone and everyone (who doesn't agree with my 'version') of lying, assume the world starts and ends with me, shoot a dog in the back of the head after running it over and say nothing to the owner (who is standing right there) shoot a gun in a restaurant (with a child at the next table) and then categorically deny my finger was ever on the trigger, get my friend to take the blame, and then deny I got my friend to take the blame... and so on and so forth.
If I am OP, I know that I must not have anything negative about me reported in the media. My image must not be tarnished, and my sponsors must not have reason to cut me off. I must present an image to the world that is not my real image. My livelihood depends on it. So after murdering Reeva in the toilet after another of my unpredictable outbursts, it is not important to me to call for help. But it is important to me to call people who are not medical experts, remove things from my safe, have my friends and family come over and trample all over the crime scene, ensure one of my phones 'disappears', omit significant information from my affidavit so I can get bail, and then make sure the 'private' memorial I hold for Reeva is released into the public domain.
If anyone reads my book, they can see my mother bought me up to be strong and capable and never treated me as disabled. I have never retreated from danger because 'it is not my personality to do so' and on many occasions I have confronted danger when it was not necessary to do so. I have been the victim of many many crimes, but have never reported them to the police, and one time, when I was almost shot at and had to pull into a restaurant car park to call someone to get me... I could not remember who I called!! And then... having forgot who I called, I could not remember the person who took me back to collect my car the next day, even though I was sitting in their car and talking to them on the way.
To escape a murder charge, I must show the Judge how very vulnerable I am because of my disability and how I am constantly in fear of intruders. It's a shame then, that I forgot to get my window fixed, check if the alarm was working and slept for 5 hours with my balcony doors open. I have no explanation for that - nor can I explain why I didn't have time to think, while also having 'many thoughts'.
The point is the majority of decent human beings are so far removed from OP and they type of person he has proved himself to be, that they can't actually imagine being him. Further, they don't have to put themselves in his position to have an opinion on what he should have done. Even the Judge can't do that. What she can do, however, is to look at his past behaviour of lies, deceit and blame, and decide whether the fairytale he's invented could 'reasonably possibly be true' - and it's my opinion (and many others opinions) it is so improbable, that it cannot reasonably possibly be true.
Good catch on the "socks"
I strongly believe he is referring to his stump socks not the foot socks.
Further, I think the stump socks that OP was wearing when van Staden photographed him in the garage were put on:
- after Reeva had been placed at the foot of the stairs
- before the police had arrived on the scene.
Recall that he made at least 3 trips upstairs between the time that Reeva had been placed downstairs and when the police arrived. It is my belief that he was on his prosthetics most if not all of the evening (certainly after 2:00am)and that the photographed socks were put on after the event,probably during one of his 3 unescorted trips upstairs .
In support of this theory, I have assembled and attached a collage of photos of OP's taken by van Staden shortly after van Staden arrived. The stump socks which I assume are some type of cotton blend, appear to have no blood on them, while his prosthetic legs are covered with blood right up to the stump socks.
The retrieval of his stump socks post-event may also be the reason for blood drops on the duvet and carpet near the bed.
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Did OP ever explain the bashed in panel on the bathtub?
Don't be sure about that. I can turn on a dime, but so far all I see is more and more confirmation that OP is telling the truth, more or less.
What I believe people do is to put themselves in OP's situation without regard to the context and say "this is what I'd do." That doesn't work for me. It's a non-starter AFAIC. The only to get OP is to imagine what it must be like to be HIM, not US in HIS position.
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He has his prostheses on in the photo so are they not socks for his prostheses? I have no idea if the stump socks are different but would have thought they were more tube like.
Good catch on the "socks"
I strongly believe he is referring to his stump socks not the foot socks.
Further, I think the stump socks that OP was wearing when van Staden photographed him in the garage were put on:
- after Reeva had been placed at the foot of the stairs
- before the police had arrived on the scene.
Recall that he made at least 3 trips upstairs between the time that Reeva had been placed downstairs and when the police arrived. It is my belief that he was on his prosthetics most if not all of the evening (certainly after 2:00am)and that the photographed socks were put on after the event,probably during one of his 3 unescorted trips upstairs .
In support of this theory, I have assembled and attached a collage of photos of OP's taken by van Staden shortly after van Staden arrived. The stump socks which I assume are some type of cotton blend, appear to have no blood on them, while his prosthetic legs are covered with blood right up to the stump socks.
The retrieval of his stump socks post-event may also be the reason for blood drops on the duvet and carpet near the bed.