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He's not drawing but writing, a request for resignation perhaps ............
Trial Discussion Thread #51 - 14.11.9, Day 41 ~announcement of the verdict~
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He's not drawing but writing, a request for resignation perhaps ............
Sorry but the lady is now getting on my wick. Even if she can force out the words 'guilty of culpable homicide' in these circumstances the violent killing of Reeva, it will be a travesty and little more than a slap on the wrist IMO.
You couldn't have been reading the forum properly then, because many of us had been voicing our concerns about her over the past few months.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...fected-the-oscar-pistorius-trial-9726275.html
"In Pistorius’s case, it would seem that dolus eventualis murder would apply if he had fired four shots into a cubicle that he had known was occupied, aware his actions would kill, regardless of who he thought was in there.
But it is more complicated than that, since Oscar Pistorius was initially put on trial specifically for the murder of Reeva Steenkamp.
If the judge accepts that he thought Reeva Steenkamp was in the bedroom at the point when he shot each bullet - then he could not possibly have foreseen that firing his gun through the door could have killed her."
"In Pistorius’s case, it would seem that dolus eventualis murder would apply if he had fired four shots into a cubicle that he had known was occupied, aware his actions would kill, regardless of who he thought was in there.
But it is more complicated than that, since Oscar Pistorius was initially put on trial specifically for the murder of Reeva Steenkamp.
If the judge accepts that he thought Reeva Steenkamp was in the bedroom at the point when he shot each bullet - then he could not possibly have foreseen that firing his gun through the door could have killed her."
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She now seems to be completely contradicting herself with respect to knowing what would happen if he shot into the toilet cubicle. What is going on.
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"It is clear that his conduct was negligent."
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Exactly my thoughts but I was a bit late posting.
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Yes, she wasn't getting it - because the prosecution case was so hopeless. Nel made a big mistake focussing his case on OP intending to kill Reeva. He could have got evenualis had it been accepted that OP knew it was an intruder, but still intended to kill. I think this got lost in the distraction of "blood curdling screams" etc etc.
"The South African Court of Appeal held that mens rea in the form of dolus eventualis is an elastic concept. It can range from bordering on negligence (culpa) on the one hand to dolus directus on the other. However, the test always remains whether the accused person subjectively foresaw the possibility of the death of the deceased and associated himself therewith.1
Dolus eventualis is sometimes said to be the criminal law equivalent to the tort concept of gross negligence."
The deceased is Reeva Steenkamp.
http://www.duhaime.org/LegalDictionary/D/DolusEventualis.aspx
Dolus eventualis is sometimes said to be the criminal law equivalent to the tort concept of gross negligence."
The deceased is Reeva Steenkamp.
http://www.duhaime.org/LegalDictionary/D/DolusEventualis.aspx
fftobed: I will not lose anymore sleep for this travesty of justice.- Status