Trial Discussion Thread #8 - 14.03.17, Day 11

[james83]

Roux's claims of the scene being tampered with were clearly nonsense and clearly the claims of a man who doesn't have a lot to work with.

 

[zwiebel]

Photo album three shows main bedroom and ground floor area. Certain things were moved to take the pics.

 

[Trooper]

so. in album 2.. this is the series of pics taken after items had to be moved..

yes milady

album #3.. is the main bedroom as well as the ground floor area.


and certain things were moved.. Album 1 is nothing moved , album 2 and 3 is when items have to be moved.. for example the cocked and loaded, ready to fire parabellum with black talon ammo!!.. I should bloody well hope so.

 

[Really?]

Ah, I see. Photo man did not put towels in the tub. He took them out, at around 7.00, to photograph them.

I could wrong but I think he said he placed them in the tub after picking them (1 towel) .......up reveal the phone?

 

[zwiebel]

Album five is blood spatters and stains.

 

[zwiebel]

I could wrong but I think he said he placed them in the tub after picking them (1 towel) .......up reveal the phone?

Mmmm. That's what I thought he said first. Maybe he's contradicted himself a bit?

 

[zwiebel]

Now seeing pics taken by Lt Col ???

 

[zwiebel]

Some errors, Nel says.

Photo indicates taken 15th Feb but photo man says it was actually taken Mar 8th.

Same for several others, showing blood spatters, I think?

 

[zwiebel]

Measurements were taken Mar 8 at request of Col Van der ???

Cannot catch that name...

 

[zwiebel]

Others taken at request of Cpt Menghuana (sp)

 

[zwiebel]

Isn't that a big gap between crime on 14th Feb and waiting to take measurements Mar 8th? Surely blood would have dried and patterns changed by then?

 

[zwiebel]

Photo album 8 shows opening/closing crime scene, alarm system and contents of safe.

 

[Trooper]

there are a series of pics Von Stat didn't take.

there were taken by W.O. mumble mumble..


not Botha.. another name.


pic 364... 15th feb pics.... but WAS it taken on that date!!??? no it was taken on the 8th march.. and 366??? 8th march.. correct.. 371...

the date isn't on the PIC, its on the labeling underneath.

379 ditto .. all 8th march.


measurements taken of blood spatter on 8th march?? on the direction of col

I , von Staden took ALLpics with the exception of these ones referred to.

captain Mungeena..requested .... . these pics are now separated and into their own album..


exhibit RR..

now in THISalbum. there are certain pics ADDED by Cap Mungeena??? lets identify these..

410 to 416... sequence.. 418 to 420 ... 422... and 458 and 439... and 225.. correct.

you were present when the scene was reconstructed?? on th 8th March.. yes. .

and we have already handed in the pics of Col Vermulen and the bat..

ALbum no 7, ( vermulen and the bat)

Album #8......the openin and sealing of thecrime scene and and the alarm system.. AND the opening of the safe..

was the Alarm system In the house>>> ?? with beams outside?? yes

 

[zwiebel]

Alarm system had 'beams outside'.

Safe pics taken 16 Feb.

Cupboard with clothes.

Safe inside wardrobe in passage to bthroom.

Accused opened the safe. Phot man, another Mr sos and so and Van M from crime scene management.

Following pics show contents of safe.

Box containing cartridges 8 special rounds.

Cartridges were removed by OP and then photographed and handed to Mr whoever.

 

[Trooper]

this pic shows a cupboard with clothes in it.

pics 603.. 604...

in the passage which leads into the bathroom

now..were you present when the safe was open??

the accused.. Oldwage... myself.. colonel of crime scene management.. van der merelen.. (??)


contents of the safe.

608.... left hand corner.. a box of special cartridges..

then a close up.

what happened to the contents of the safe>?? it was taken by the accused, then photographed.. then taken by the brother of the accused..

the accused brother, Carl. he handed them over to mr Oldwage.


pic 842.. to 844.. pics as exhibits handed in as exhibit TT

one more set.. soon as possible , milady.. the pic will beon the screen but the physical article will be handed in.

next.. a lounge??? the broken something.. dang.. I got distracted by a lonely dog.

 

[zwiebel]

Showing pic of downstairs lounge window from outside. It was broken.

 

[zwiebel]

But no bits of broken glass around?

First time I heard about a broken downstairs window....

 

[zwiebel]

Why would security conscious OP leave a broken downstairs window unrepaired? He would at least board it up, I'd think. So was it broken on the night?

 

[Trooper]

some broken glass..

ok. ALBUM 10


in album 10. this is from the cell phone, ipad, computers memory sticks..

these pics were uploaded into album 10

and some lighting conditions outside the house, around the flowers, at the swimming pool..

795, to 830. sequence.

pics of the security scanners , lampposts outside the house..

measurements taken of this specific toilet.. 897 to 914.. sequence..

we have skipped an album and now we go back to it, ALBUM 9

contents of safe, safe itself. 17th Feb.

 

[BritsKate]

I suck at screenshots but I took as many as I could and uploaded them to my photobucket (to avoid blowing margins). Link here:

Oscar Pistorius Trial Screengrabs