Life intervened with me during this testimony. Did they introduce LOINFIRE ??So I’m just now catching up on today’s testimony. I think it is good for the jury to hear the James & Elena story along with details of what was going on with CD & LVD at the same time but I think if I hear anymore of it I might…scream or yell or be ill or something…not going to listen to anymore of it so I guess I won’t find out![]()
I think today was a good day and gave the jury even more things to show CD was heading down this path before LVD came along and that he’s as responsible as she is and that the two of them together were a lethal combination.
I still want to hear AB though as I think her testimony is valuable of how CD asked her to befriend LVD and that he was going to marry her and needed AB to be a liaison for him and all that was right around the time the first casting meetings were held - long before CV or Tylee & JJ or TD were murdered - and it was instigated by CD not LVD.
I think CD’s goose is already cooked but I guess I want it to be well done for the jury.
Didn’t watch much of it so I can’t really say - I just couldn’t take itLife intervened with me during this testimony. Did they introduce LOINFIRE ??
Not yet...still waiting for the Storm to make it's appearance.Life intervened with me during this testimony. Did they introduce LOINFIRE ??
I think that was something CD wrote on the AVOW websiteFrom a long time ago, who did did Chad tell Tammy had a smiled on her face when he found her? I keep waiting for that story to be revealed to jury,
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Think about the jury- all the horror, all the cringeworthy theological machinations to justify the most base desires, and...I was out driving and listening to this. And I guffawed. Sad I had no one to share it with.
That was the version he published in his double-paywalled AVOW column. It almost seems like he wrote it before he murdered her, and he was describing how he planned for the scene to look.From a long time ago, who did did Chad tell Tammy had a smiled on her face when he found her? I keep waiting for that story to be revealed to jury,
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I didn't see it it yet. Did they go over the fire in his loins or however he phrased that?So I’m just now catching up on today’s testimony. I think it is good for the jury to hear the James & Elena story along with details of what was going on with CD & LVD at the same time but I think if I hear anymore of it I might…scream or yell or be ill or something…not going to listen to anymore of it so I guess I won’t find out![]()
I think today was a good day and gave the jury even more things to show CD was heading down this path before LVD came along and that he’s as responsible as she is and that the two of them together were a lethal combination.
I still want to hear AB though as I think her testimony is valuable of how CD asked her to befriend LVD and that he was going to marry her and needed AB to be a liaison for him and all that was right around the time the first casting meetings were held - long before CV or Tylee & JJ or TD were murdered - and it was instigated by CD not LVD.
I think CD’s goose is already cooked but I guess I want it to be well done for the jury.
Thank you!That was the version he published in his double-paywalled AVOW column. It almost seems like he wrote it before he murdered her, and he was describing how he planned for the scene to look.
The article had a title along the lines of 'moving on to the next part of my life' or something. Tammy's death was all about Chad's life, of course.
People paid real money to read his work, and it wasn't just to snark on him.
MOO
Having to do a Google search.
Is it common in the LDS faith for the spouse’s name to be added to a headstone?DID NOT KNOW that Chad requested his name be left off Tammy's headstone. I am floored.
Think about the jury- all the horror, all the cringeworthy theological machinations to justify the most base desires, and...
...and they are not allowed to discuss a single thing. Not even with each other.
MOO
Did Heather’s husband support her beliefs and concerns?Thinking about Heather Daybell and how she knew something was wrong and tried to tell people; but was labeled a troublemaker, (I think "pot-stirrer" is what her in-laws called her) accused of exaggerating, etc. People chose to believe what they wanted to; loyalty to Chad, etc.
That's how people like Chad are able to get away with this stuff, no oversight. Don't believe this woman over here, be loyal to this man over there. Chad had privilege and entitlement as a man, as a church member, as the leader of his family. People wouldn't question him. Except the "outlaw" in-law, who had known him a long time, and most improtantly, had the guts to speak out.
How many people have apologized to Heather? Few to none, I bet. She was a "whistleblower" in effect. And whistleblowers are not popular.
It makes me think about times when I have been "Heather," and wasn't listened to; and times when I would not listen to a "Heather," regretfully.
It takes courage to go against prevailing beliefs and be the only or one of the few voices speaking out. I'm thinking now, who am I not listening to? What am I believing because I want to, and against my better judgement?
Follow up: Wow, ES thinks that Chad was a good person who wanted to help people, but had some childhood trauma to overcome, and then Lori appeared with murderous/darker side to it all. It looks like ES has not been deprogrammed yet.Eric Smith is seen as one of the influences on both Julie Rowe's and Chad's doctrines with his study of light/dark, Church of the Firstborn, etc. For some time he was JR's right hand man and previously an editor for Chad's publishing company. He has been excommunicated around the time JR was (before Chad). HTC and CourtTV interviewed him about Chad in the past. Just a day or so ago he was a guest on a yt channel of a self-proclaimed psychic. I haven't listened to it yet, so I don't know how much he deconstructed, but he considers the LDS church merely a corporation. He would make an interesting witness, although I'm not sure for which side.
The gun/ammo companies are proud of their products to put an end to a child murderer’s life of destruction.Yeah, I'm also opposed to the death penalty, although I waver when child-killers are involved. I won't lose any sleep, let's just put it that way.
Ninja-edit: They can use the firing squad there!!! On account of companies not wanting their drugs used for state sanctioned killings. Wow, Idaho ain't screwin' around.