Trial - Ross Harris #6

[BetteDavisEyes]

I'm not a flag waiving fan of the prosecution over here. I just want to be clear in that. I genuinely think he would be asking questions differently, if she were willing to answer the questions. She is skirting around the questions and was actually caught in n outright lie right at the end. She "can't remember" "can't recall" more often than not.

Prosecution has to walk a fine line with Leanna. If he comes across as too harsh on Cooper's mother, jury might not like it.

I have to leave the house at 10:30 tomorrow morning for an appointment. If I'm unable to watch Leanna's testimony, I'll catch up by reading here.

 

[blue22]

Can someone tell me if she got caught in a lie and what was it? On the edge of my seat and genuinely curious. Thank you all for the updates.

This is a quick paraphase, as I'm heading out.

The prosector asked her about the divorce timing. She said she didn't know about the affairs yet. The prosecution brought out the info from the probable cause hearing, that he was texting with 6 different women the day of Cooper's death. The prosecution kept asking if she knew then, she wouldn't answer. She attempted to fake cry and said she had been through so much, etc. The judge finally told her to say yes or no. After a long pause, she said yes.

She said she didn't know about women until much later, hence the late divorce. The prosecution pressed, she wouldn't answer. She was finally force to say yes she did know in July 2014. Not only did she lie, she tried to get away not answering the question at all and crying for sympathy, IMO. (When you watch the video, it's at the end of her testimony today.)

 

[blue22]

Huh? What lie would that be?

She lied and said she didn't know about the women he was carrying on with. It was at the end, when she attempted to cry before the judge forced her to answer.

 

[gitana1]

Neither Ross or Leanna said it was their "greatest" or "biggest" fear. What Leanna testified to was that it was A fear, and one she said she knew (beforehand, obviously) was "irrational".

Well I don't think that totally minimizes my point. If it was something significant enough that they specifically worried about it, it's highly odd that it happened. Most parents are super concerned about safety in general, and when you add that layer of a specific fear, the probability of that fear being realized rather than protected against, is super low.

There are just too many coincidences in this case for me. Too many things that don't add up or make sense. I mean I have seen a lot of posts trying to explain away each one. And each one can absolutely be explained away, in a vaccuum. But they did to it in a vaccuum. They all occurred together and must be examined as parts of a whole.

I just think that there is too much stretching and contortions taking place in an effort to explain away all these red flags.

 

[yupikgirl]

I have a completely different take- the prosecutor came off frustrated and I think the jury will agree. She became a completely different unlikable person on cross. She looked like a liar.

Forgot to say IMO


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[popsicle]

Can someone tell me if she got caught in a lie and what was it? On the edge of my seat and genuinely curious. Thank you all for the updates.

In a nutshell: Said she would divorce him if if she found out he was cheating. She found out he was cheating not long after Cooper's death and didn't divorce him until 2yrs later.

 

[momoftwocrazies]

Not sure if the defense scored any points trying to show Ross as a loving husband and father with Leanna's stories and pics. I think it reinforces just how good he was at his double life. And if he can pull the rug over her eyes about their marriage for so long and so extensively, certainly he could about Coopers death.

 

[minor4th]

It really is amazing how differently people perceive the exact same thing.

 

[RANCH]

In a nutshell: Said she would divorce him if if she found out he was cheating. She found out he was cheating not long after Cooper's death and didn't divorce him until 2yrs later.

So she took too long to do what she said she would do. That's it? I don't find that very compelling. JMO

 

[blue22]

Not sure if the defense scored any points trying to show Ross as a loving husband and father with Leanna's stories and pics. I think it reinforces just how good he was at his double life. And if he can pull the rug over her eyes about their marriage for so long and so extensively, certainly he could about Coopers death.

It could go either way with the jury. I think it's a chance they had to take. I don't buy it, but you never know with a jury.

 

[popsicle]

So she took too long to do what she said she would do. That's it? I don't find that very compelling. JMO

Don't go by my explanation, it was very abbreviated because the space bar isn't working for me lol

 

[yupikgirl]

I agree minor4- that we can agree on. Never know what a juror is thinking!

Oops forgot to quote- sorry!

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[blue22]

So she took too long to do what she said she would do. That's it? I don't find that very compelling. JMO

She said she didn't know about the women, when it was proved she knew from the probable cause hearing. The prosecution presented that information and she had to be forced to answer from the judge.

I find any lie on stand by the person who is vouching for the character of Ross very compelling. JMO.

 

[TexMex]

IMO he wanted to move from his married life to his fantasy life. He wasn't sexually attracted to LH. Plus the nagging him about did he do this or that...did you get to work? Setting up internet safety so he would be a good boy
He couldn't get it up and felt emasculated with LH.
Watching *advertiser censored*, sexting, prostitutes, interest in young girls....was the only time he felt like a man
Getting out of the marriage was the only way he thought he'd feel like a man

IMO his behaviors show he was unwilling or unable to fix his sex addiction. In some ways IMO he was trying to get her to divorce him. But LH will never do it. Marriage is FOREVER to her. UNLESS he was caught with a woman, then she'd takeCooper and leave JMO but it terrified him thinking he'd be stuck in a sexless marriage....having to hide his secret life FOREVER
MOO he felt stuck. If Cooper wasn't there the "glue holding them together" was gone too. He could leave and punish LH for emasculating him and threatening to punish him for wanting to feel like a man by taking his child

 

[MsMarple]

There was something else too about whether or not she watched the video interviews. I missed a chunk of it so maybe someone can fill in the blank. I only noticed because Boring asked her who showed her the video and she answered a different question instead. He had to ask again. It might have been nothing but her answer sounded like she was trying to avoid something.

 

[Hope4More]

Well I don't think that totally minimizes my point. If it was something significant enough that they specifically worried about it, it's highly odd that it happened. Most parents are super concerned about safety in general, and when you add that layer of a specific fear, the probability of that fear being realized rather than protected against, is super low.

There are just too many coincidences in this case for me. Too many things that don't add up or make sense. I mean I have seen a lot of posts trying to explain away each one. And each one can absolutely be explained away, in a vaccuum. But they did to it in a vaccuum. They all occurred together and must be examined as parts of a whole.

I just think that there is too much stretching and contortions taking place in an effort to explain away all these red flags.

I don't see any coincidences other than a text exchange with a stranger in the AM of the 18th, in which Ross was whining about Leanna not liking his going out to play, and unfortunately for him, using the word "escape" rather than "break."

What imo is a huge stretch is thinking it's suspicious that they worried about hot car deaths and that's how Cooper died. It would seem negligent of them to NOT worry about the possibility. Should Ross have used whatever system that day to prevent it happening? Sure . Did the fact that he didn't make him guilty of criminal negligence, much less of murder? Don't think so.

 

[yupikgirl]

There was something else too about whether or not she watched the video interviews. I missed a chunk of it so maybe someone can fill in the blank. I only noticed because Boring asked her who showed her the video and she answered a different question instead. He had to ask again. It might have been nothing but her answer sounded like she was trying to avoid something.

Yes she was trying to avoid agreeing with her answers she gave on video June 18.

Don't remember the specific question, but I wish he had just been able to say let's roll the tape LOL. J/K sort of.. haha

Edited to say- it was something about her never telling the detectives on June 18 that Ross was absent minded, but now has testified on direct that he was. I think?


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[just the facts pls]

I haven't seen the 2nd part of Leanna on the stand, but what I've seen this far, she seems genuine. I still believe Ross did this on purpose, too many coincidences that day. Why on a hot day and not any other time? Why not forgot him at CFA? Also, just because he was a certain way in his marriage and in public, doesn't mean he didn't want Cooper gone. Look at other cases like the Green River Killer, I think that was the name. He had a family and I'm sure his family never knew his other side..

I also keep thinking of the Green River Killer when I'm watching the trial. Gary Ridgeway was well known as a family man who even went door to door preaching about the Bible. Little did anyone know he was murdering people right and left. Most of his victims were aged fifteen to their early twenties, and only a few were in their thirties. It's creepy how JRH's sexual tastes are similar to Gary Ridgeway's.

 

[Gardenista]

Badgering her over when she got her divorce is so trivial. Gonna make the jury hate the prosecution.

 

[lisette]

Oh my..I'm behind on watching and just saw the video clips of Cooper--and am bawling! Just thinking of how that little boy must have suffered, been so confused about why his caregiver was not helping...it's just almost more than I can stand!!