GUILTY TX - Alanna Gallagher, 6, Saginaw, 1 July 2013 - #1

[PMLsmom]

Maybe I'm just the Gladys Kravitz of the neighborhood, but there would never be a "tarp" sitting in my street for 1-7 hours without me notifying anyone, JMO.

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[ArianeEmory]

Until I hear more, I don't fault the parents. It's summer time and the sun is out in many places after 9:00. Sure, you should keep your eyes on your kids 24 hrs a day, but it's easy to have a false sense of security in your own neighborhood especially if kids are running around all day. Maybe they thought she was at a friend's house playing and then couldn't find her (the immediate thought wouldn't be to call police because you "know" she is off playing somewhere and just have to find her). It's different than being at a store and losing sight of your kid for a couple of minutes and panicking.

I wonder if "getting dark" was what prompted them to call 911 when they did.

 

[ArianeEmory]

Maybe I'm just the Gladys Kravitz of the neighborhood, but there would never be a "tarp" sitting in my street for 1-7 hours without me notifying anyone, JMO.

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It does seem weird--where it was, any car approaching that intersection/stop sign from that direction would have had to *swerve around it* and partially into oncoming lane.

It was to one side but still in the road.

(I don't mean to be insensitive--when I say "it" I do mean the tarp of course.)

 

[BrownRice]

I wonder if "getting dark" was what prompted them to call 911 when they did.

And also there are other kids on the house (she may be the youngest?). Maybe they all thought somebody knew where she was.

 

[mysticrose]

Maybe I'm just the Gladys Kravitz of the neighborhood, but there would never be a "tarp" sitting in my street for 1-7 hours without me notifying anyone, JMO.

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I was thinking along the same lines myself, I would think with all the kids running around it would have been discovered much sooner if indeed it was there earlier then the reported time of around 7 ish.

 

[BrownRice]

I was thinking along the same lines myself, I would think with all the kids running around it would have been discovered much sooner if indeed it was there earlier then the reported time of around 7 ish.

How do we know it was there for hours? Or is this just conversation and thinking out loud?

 

[mysticrose]

How do we know it was there for hours? Or is this just conversation and thinking out loud?

It was quoted in one of the articles earlier I'll be back with the link that LE was having some contradicting reports of when it was actually first seen in the neighborhood.... brb

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We’re trying to establish when she was last seen. We’re also trying to determine when the tarp was first seen because we’ve had witnesses put the time from mid-afternoon until 7 p.m.”

Macon noted that the girl had friends in the neighborhood around her home, but authorities had not determined if she had been playing with any of them.

Investigators hope a video recording taken by a Saginaw police officer in his patrol car as he drove around the area where the body was found may provide clues, police said

Read more here: http://www.star-telegram.com/2013/0...ung-girl-found-in-saginaw.html##storylink=cpy

 

[PMLsmom]

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We’re trying to establish when she was last seen. We’re also trying to determine when the tarp was first seen because we’ve had witnesses put the time from mid-afternoon until 7 p.m.”
Macon noted that the girl had friends in the neighborhood around her home, but authorities had not determined if she had been playing with any of them.

Investigators hope a video recording taken by a Saginaw police officer in his patrol car as he drove around the area where the body was found may provide clues, police said

Read more here: http://www.star-telegram.com/2013/0...ung-girl-found-in-saginaw.html##storylink=cpy

This says mid-afternoon til 7...

 

[PMLsmom]

Oops, a minute late and a dollar short lol, giving mysticrose the credit...

 

[carbuff]

And also there are other kids on the house (she may be the youngest?). Maybe they all thought somebody knew where she was.

I can see that. "Isn't she with you?" "No, I thought she went with you!" "No, she told me she was going over to Mary's!"

 

[EGirl]

In my City YES! In fact, you get an answering system if you call 911! Children must be missing for a certain amount of hours before it is noted, and you will be told so when you call if you get a person. Maybe not in this case, but in this City, YES!!!

High crime, lots of projects, lots of lots of......................

Ummm.. what city? A teen missing? maybe, not a child.

Sorry, just not buying this.

 

[BrownRice]

I can see that. "Isn't she with you?" "No, I thought she went with you!" "No, she told me she was going over to Mary's!"

This seems to happen a lot with kids being left in cars. :-( I can see it happening a lot in houses where people are coming and going - especially during summer when rules are more relaxed.

 

[JaimeInLA]

here's a detailed article:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...4-bound-naked-tarp-suburban-intersection.html

Why is the FBI involved so quickly?

 

[Linda7NJ]

Absolutely horrifying

 

[ArianeEmory]

here's a detailed article:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...4-bound-naked-tarp-suburban-intersection.html

Why is the FBI involved so quickly?

This article shows the aerial shot I mentioned earlier that shows that someone approaching the stop sign would have to veer away from the tarp.

 

[carbuff]

here's a detailed article:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...4-bound-naked-tarp-suburban-intersection.html

Why is the FBI involved so quickly?

They were probably called in as soon as they had evidence it was an abduction.

 

[EGirl]

Sorry, but is true. Believe what you want. Look up murder capitals of the United States, then look up the news for the last year, or month, then go back 20 years or more. I really don't mind.


Ghetto is bigger than San Antonio, I have visited there.

As far as the tarp, I don't think it was there very long before it was noticed. Go back to first page of thread and click Pelliman's link where the first known video is. It is a street where "I think" it would be noticed.

Ive lived in the 4th largest city in the US for more than 30 years. Seen lots of ghetto..... No LE will tell you to call back in a few hours if a 4 or 5 year old is missing. I want a link. Yeah, there are over burdened 911 systems and sometimes you get a recording..... but never a 'please wait 24 hours to report your pre schooler missing'




JMO

 

[21merc7]

here's a detailed article:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...4-bound-naked-tarp-suburban-intersection.html

Why is the FBI involved so quickly?

A child is moved from the child's home and is deceased.

There may be known activity to the FBI before this horrid death. There may be more known to the FBI than will be made public.

 

[Wondergirl]

TOD will be a vital clue.

Interesting that they haven't made more noise about the truck or requested the driver to come forward.

 

[ArianeEmory]

I'm actually pretty fascinated at the 911 delay conversation and I have a guess as to which city the poster means, but the fact of the matter is this case did not take place in a high crime area. I think there are other explanations than 911 overburdening as to when the parents called it in.