I'm 20 min NE of Saginaw & work standard hours (9-5) in downtown Dallas. Even w/ rush hours it's often not more than an hour (very bad day an hour and 1/2). I make dinner, spend time w/ hub & kids, etc..... If not being around is why there was limited awareness as to problems w/ TH, it's not because I'd a work commute, IMO.
BINGO. :moo:
I have to wonder if she was afraid of him...
That is simply not true. No one person has the brainpower to "always know" what any other person is doing or thinking.
For all we know, his mom was aware that he had problems and was doing everything in her power to deal with these problems.
Or she may have simply had her head in the sand, totally ignoring him.
We simply do not know.
RBBM: I agree with the BBM. And, as I stated, it is my opinion that if she was burying her head in the sand regarding what her child was doing in her home, she wasn't doing her job as a parent! I'm sure that I don't know every single little thing my kid is doing, but I sure as hell would know if he was engaging in sex in my home, using drugs etc... TH was not a rocket scientist! He had problems in the neighborhood, he wasn't going to school, he was using drugs. Mom had to know something..period. I am not blaming her. She must have been overwhelmed, but to state that she didn't know anything, can't be true.That is simply not true. No one person has the brainpower to "always know" what any other person is doing or thinking.
For all we know, his mom was aware that he had problems and was doing everything in her power to deal with these problems.
Or she may have simply had her head in the sand, totally ignoring him.
We simply do not know.
RBBM: I agree with the BBM. And, as I stated, it is my opinion that if she was burying her head in the sand regarding what her child was doing in her home, she wasn't doing her job as a parent! I'm sure that I don't know every single little thing my kid is doing, but I sure as hell would know if he was engaging in sex in my home, using drugs etc... TH was not a rocket scientist! He had problems in the neighborhood, he wasn't going to school, he was using drugs. Mom had to know something..period. I am not blaming her. She must have been overwhelmed, but to state that she didn't know anything, can't be true.
JMO
ETA: My entire point is that parents ARE responsible for their children. They need to be involved in their kids lives. You can't give a kid a set of keys to the house, set of keys to a car and go about your business. Your job as a parent is to PARENT! I've seen too many parents who simply do not invest the time needed to raise their children, then they act surprised when things happen.
From her pictures, she looks cute.
She may have had some boyfriends that were not nice people. They may have impacted him negatively. Or, he could have been the victim of a neighbor or a coach. Who knows.
true, but as a survivor, that really does not do much to mitigate for me. The analytically side of me is interested in what created him. My need for justice does not allow for me to feel much for his inner child I am afraid, though.
But I do agree with you in that something went way way off track to create that monster. And some of it happened during some very formative times in his life. MOO
I am not interested in mitigation. He is a juvenile and cannot get death.
He needs to be locked up forever as a protection to society.
If you are a drunk and hit a tree and become paralyzed, you don't get a do over.
If you are sick and brutally rape a child, you don't get a do over in my world. It should not be a surprise to him that this is not OK.
And if it is a surprise, then it is even worse.
I thought they could try him as an adult. well I know in my state (Va) certain situations Juvs can be tried as an adult. JMO
Roper v. Simmons, 543 U.S. 551 (2005), was a decision in which the Supreme Court of the United States held that it is unconstitutional to impose capital punishment for crimes committed while under the age of 18.
I thought they could try him as an adult. well I know in my state (Va) certain situations Juvs can be tried as an adult. JMO
He will be tried as an adult, but they can't give him the death penalty.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roper_v._Simmons
He'll be sentenced to prison in Texas...he'll more than likely get the death penalty, just not by the traditional justice system. :wink:
Everyone says this kind of thing a lot, but how often does it actually happen? I can never think of an example in a national case like this aside from Dahmer.
Yeah, I really don't think child murderers are killed in prison very often. For one thing, I would think there would be at least local interest if it were to happen. It would be hard to keep it out of the media, especially in the high-profile cases. Now, it wouldn't surprise me if many child killers/rapists have a hard time in prison, are assaulted or attacked, and it's just not reported on, but I don't think they are being killed as often as people might think.
rather unfortunate, imo.
At the end of 2001, about 83,000 state prison inmates, or about 6.8 percent, were male sex offenders who had committed a rape or sexual assault against a minor under age 18, according to Allen Beck, chief of corrections statistics for the federal Bureau of Justice Statistics.
Just 56 state and federal prisoners out of a population of about 1.3 million were actually killed by other inmates during the year long period between July 1999 and June 2000, and it was unknown how many were pedophiles, Beck said.
Michael Shively, a former Massachusetts corrections official, said even though Geoghan was in protective custody, it was impossible to completely guarantee his safety given that the other inmates who require protection are drawn from a difficult and dangerous population.
Child rapists or molesters in prison are often the target of violent prison gangs and predatory inmates who often beat, extort and sometimes kill the sex offender.
Most child rapists with high profile crimes choose segregation and are housed in a single cell 23 hours a day. It is common for some prison facilities to keep protected custody offenders in areas reserved specifically for inmates who's lives are in danger, transgender inmates, ex-prison gang members, confirmed gang leaders and offenders who pose a danger to officers and other inmates.