TX TX - Amber Hagerman, 9, Arlington, 17 Jan 1996

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A friend of Amber's has come forward. There will be a release of her information. But I am not sure when that will take place. This was a good two-three months ago when I saw that she will be coming forward.

Always take the media with a grain of salt ...more than once theyve been known to hype up information about something something , when in reality its just another plea for information

We just had it here not too long ago, local news was a buzz for hours with with "New information on the case, of a Serial rapist " where 1 victim was actually murdered

It was just an age progressed new composite
 
Texas Girl's Abduction Inspired the Lifesaving 'Amber Alert,' but 26 Years Later Her Own Case Remains Unsolved

Police believe the suspect — who was described as a white or Hispanic male, in his 20s or 30s, under 6 ft. with dark hair — was a local.

"Based on the direction of travel when they left [the Winn-Dixie] and then based on her being found in Arlington, being abducted in Arlington and just being in that spot, the question has always been, did somebody have a connection with that area where the abduction was?" Arlington Police Sgt. Grant Gildon tells PEOPLE in this week's issue.
 
Over 26 years have passed...

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Amber Hagerman, age 9
Murdered 17 January 1996
 
Does anyone remember the man that was arrested for her abduction? I think it was a couple of years after. He was coined a 'troll'. I don't remember his name, but I remember news footage of him for an arraignment or trial. I guess he was exonerated? He was super sus, though.
 
Sherri had a bite wound on her shoulder. Seems like recent tech advances in DNA would identify the killer.
 
I watched the NBC “Amber alert” documentary, and while the crew is there getting footage of her and her family for the welfare program video, a single cab, black truck, drives by, with a lawn mower in the bed of the truck, I wonder if police ever used this older footage in any investigation? I wonder if they could
Identify this vehicle this long afterward? Or at least an owner, in the area….
 
Has anyone ever check into Charles Ray Vines for the kidnapping of Amber? Hr was active in Arkansas in 1995.
I believe we’ve had a discussion about him way back in the thread, but I’m not sure if it was here or not. I do know his two known victims were elderly women, but we also know that it’s not a stretch for predators to stray from their usual MO.
 
"It is possible that there were other witnesses who saw what happened but were fearful about coming forward. With it being a Saturday afternoon that was nice, and a Latino laundromat being right next door to the abduction, we were concerned that people that were there at the laundromat who are undocumented and living in this country illegally won't talk," Sgt. Ben Lopez told CBS 11 previously.

Suspect:<modnote - WHITE OR> Hispanic male, 20s to 30s (as of 1996), under 6' tall, medium build, brown or black hair

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Photos and details from this 2017 article:


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"He described Amber’s abductor as a white or Hispanic man in his 20s or 30s, under 6 feet tall and with a medium build and brown or black hair. His truck, a single-cab pickup, was in good condition and was solid black, with no chrome or striping.

Police have said that the truck was believed to be a 1980s or 1990s full-sized, fleetside pickup with a short wheelbase and a non-sliding, clear rear window."



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"In the days after Amber’s abduction, more than 50 police officers and FBI agents worked to bring the third-grader home to her family. Their hopes were dashed when the girl’s naked body was spotted near a drainage culvert in a creek bed behind an apartment complex."

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"Police said at the time that maintenance workers at the apartment complex had been near the creek where Amber was found just hours before the grim discovery, and her body was not there. The Times reported that a rainstorm caused a rapid rise in the creek waters, which may have carried her body to where it was found."

"Authorities said that Amber was kept alive for at least two days after she was abducted, according to the NCMEC website. That fact leads detectives to believe that someone, somewhere may have seen something related to her killing."


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I'm sure these questions have already been asked and answered, but:

- Has car ownership data from that year been digitized yet? Can it be searched to see who owned trucks matching these details? The truck was apparently all black with no chrome trim, and I guess maybe that was notable because it was custom. It didn't ring a bell for anyone in the area?

- How likely is it that the maintenance workers would have seen her body when they were "near the creek"?

- If she was carried to that part of the creek by creek waters, what are the theories of when and where she was put into the waters? She went missing on the 13th and was found on the 17th. Could we at least estimate a radius of where she might have been dumped?

- Also, she'd had that bicycle for less than a month. How often did she go out riding it? Was she out riding often at about the same time of day? Were there any other reasons why she might have attracted the attention of someone in the community (she frequently had lemonade stands, she sold girl scout cookies, she participated in some type of annual community event)?

- I'm so confused about the timing around when her body was found. How many hours between when maintenance workers were around and when her body was found? Had that area been searched at all prior to the discovery? Was her body found during a dedicated search for her or randomly by someone? Would the killer have any reason to want her body to be found quickly? Is there any chance the killer knew that her body would be found there at that time and made that choice intentionally?
 

Photos and details from this 2017 article:


HJRJ4PPRZ5AHFIQV3NUGDGNL7E.jpg


"He described Amber’s abductor as a white or Hispanic man in his 20s or 30s, under 6 feet tall and with a medium build and brown or black hair. His truck, a single-cab pickup, was in good condition and was solid black, with no chrome or striping.

Police have said that the truck was believed to be a 1980s or 1990s full-sized, fleetside pickup with a short wheelbase and a non-sliding, clear rear window."



OVRFD7DXJRAMXCK6RCMJRPNRCU.jpg


"In the days after Amber’s abduction, more than 50 police officers and FBI agents worked to bring the third-grader home to her family. Their hopes were dashed when the girl’s naked body was spotted near a drainage culvert in a creek bed behind an apartment complex."

TB7HY75RAVD45D7XLEK2HKLPQ4.jpg


"Police said at the time that maintenance workers at the apartment complex had been near the creek where Amber was found just hours before the grim discovery, and her body was not there. The Times reported that a rainstorm caused a rapid rise in the creek waters, which may have carried her body to where it was found."

"Authorities said that Amber was kept alive for at least two days after she was abducted, according to the NCMEC website. That fact leads detectives to believe that someone, somewhere may have seen something related to her killing."


O3IP6IX6LFECDEWXTTAILAEN2U.jpg


I'm sure these questions have already been asked and answered, but:

- Has car ownership data from that year been digitized yet? Can it be searched to see who owned trucks matching these details? The truck was apparently all black with no chrome trim, and I guess maybe that was notable because it was custom. It didn't ring a bell for anyone in the area?

- How likely is it that the maintenance workers would have seen her body when they were "near the creek"?

- If she was carried to that part of the creek by creek waters, what are the theories of when and where she was put into the waters? She went missing on the 13th and was found on the 17th. Could we at least estimate a radius of where she might have been dumped?

- Also, she'd had that bicycle for less than a month. How often did she go out riding it? Was she out riding often at about the same time of day? Were there any other reasons why she might have attracted the attention of someone in the community (she frequently had lemonade stands, she sold girl scout cookies, she participated in some type of annual community event)?

- I'm so confused about the timing around when her body was found. How many hours between when maintenance workers were around and when her body was found? Had that area been searched at all prior to the discovery? Was her body found during a dedicated search for her or randomly by someone? Would the killer have any reason to want her body to be found quickly? Is there any chance the killer knew that her body would be found there at that time and made that choice intentionally?
To answer one of your questions, her body was found in the creek bed by a resident of the nearby apartment complex, out walking his dog.

ETA: I’ve also heard conflicting information as to whether or not LE feels she floated down the stream during the storm, the night prior, or if she was simply placed in that position. I believe it was the recent documentary about Amber where a detective stated that they felt she had not floated because of the lack of bruising that should’ve been on her body had she floated and ran into the rocks/other... great questions, BTW.
 
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