TX TX - Brandon Lawson, 26, San Angelo, 8 Aug 2013 - #1

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techpuppy said:
Oops. No. That's my fault. I was trying to build a sample of background noise for the noise reduction process. It was made up of short segments between the talking of the original recording. Ignore the part of the recording after the three hello's. I'll correct it before anyone else downloads the file.
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Thank you! Also, I'm not sure if it's too much trouble, but would it be easy to slow it down a bit, this new version? I have no clue how to do it. If not, no biggie, but I thought I'd ask.
 
wow, you are all awesome - looks like you've been busy seeking justice! =)

Could the "detective" or "trooper" that may or may not have been on scene been the one doing the chasing? or maybe even being chased?

How can you be talking to someone and run into them? Unless you are on the phone with that person? If you are standing there talking to them, you might fall into them in a drunken stupor maybe... But that is actually where I am stuck with the audio transcripts you guys ahve been working on. Who was he talking to that he ran into?
 
I started a timeline from information gathered from the PI Statement on FB and the blogtalk radio transcripts on Pg 2 here. As you can see there are some discrepancies. The biggest being that Kyle called Ladessa to get the gas cans BEFORE Brandon called him saying he was out of gas. If anyone can point me to correct times for these please do.

Brandon Lawson Timeline
Aug 8 11:53pm Brandon left his house (PI timeline 11:54/Blogtalk 11:53)
Aug 9 12:10am Kyle went to Brandon/LL’s house to check on Ladessa (PI timeline)
Aug 9 12:30am Kyle called Ladessa and said Brandon was out of gas and said he needed gas cans (PI timeline)
Aug 9 12:34am Ladessa had missed call from Brandon/phone charging in van and she did not know (PI timeline)
Aug 9 12:36am Ladessa had missed call from Brandon/phone charging in van and she did not know (PI timeline)
Aug 9 12:38am Brandon called Kyle saying he ran out of gas (Blogtalk transcripts)
Aug 9 12:48am Ladessa had missed call from Brandon/phone charging in van and she did not know (PI timeline)
Aug 9 12:53am Brandon 911 call (PI timeline 12:53am/blogtalk transcripts 12:54am)
Aug 9 1:10am Kyle/Gf and Deputy Neal arrive at the truck (blogtalk transcripts)
Aug 9 1:19am last communication from Brandon to Kyle’s gf saying he was bleeding (blogtalk transcripts 1:19/PI Timeline says called on the way to truck at 1:18)
Aug 9 4:30am Kyle calls Ladessa to tell her he can’t find Brandon/she realizes she has missed calls (blogtalk transcripts)
Aug 9 5:00am Ladessa called police station to see if there was an update (PI Timeline/blog talk says 4:30am)
Aug 9 7:00am Kyle puts gas in the truck and leaves the gas can in the back (blogtalk transcripts)
Aug 9 8:30am Sheriff’s dept has truck towed (blogtalk transcripts)

Sources:
PI timeline link
https://www.facebook.com/helpfindbrandonlawson/posts/148087428733673

Blogtalk transcripts are on page 2 of this thread.
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=222105&page=2
 
Ladessa learned about the 911 call the following Tuesday.

LL: Yeah. Well, they said that they thought Brandon was running, and that he stated that he was bleeding and he was in the field. So I, that was Brandon's last phone call. They didn't know Brandon called 911, we didn't know Brandon called 911 until Tuesday, when Brandon went missing on Friday, so we didn't know.

Source: blogtalk transcripts
 
Some interesting points after going back and re-reading the blogtalk transcripts. A Texas Ranger is involved because the Sheriff's Dept there is real small and doesn't have much resources. Some interesting points BBM. The Ranger did check the State Trooper calls out there and there was nothing. I wonder if this crime of faking being a stranded motorist and ambushing someone who pulls over to help should be considered more? Also, it does not seem to be known if the Deputies were responding to Brandon's call or the truckers call.


Caller: <snip> The cops that showed up, did they show up because of the truck driver calling in about Brandon's truck, or were they showing up because Brandon had called 911?

LL: What they told me is that a stranded motorist called 911. They really didn't give us details of what there was. I'm trying to remember everything and I pretty much do but, when this first happened, it was such a daze, I didn't even know. It was a lot, and such a daze but no, they just said the 911 call was from a stranded motorist and that night, when I called, they just said there was a 911 call that (unintelligible). Because I called at 4:30 in the morning and I talked to the dispatcher, and she just said that Deputy Sheriff BN, he turned on the hazard lights, the blinkers, and he locked the truck. He just said that a stranded motorist called 911. He never said that Brandon called 911. I didn't know he called 911 until we looked at the phone records (unintelligible) on that Tuesday.

H: <snip> One thing I kept focusing on during the 911 call was where Brandon had said that "I was talking to them and I ran into them." Obviously, "them" was meaning somebody specific, but either the 911 call faded out or the signal faded out when he was trying to say who "them" was, or something where he wasn't able to relay that information, because that would've been one great lead right there. When I heard her say that, my mind went back and I started thinking of different crimes I have heard of, and one of those being is somebody that appeared to be stranded on the side of the road, so a good Samaritan would pull over to help them. Well, when they would pull over to help, they would be ambushed. Would you know of anything that could be looked at to determine what kind of crime rate for that kind of crime was for in that area? Do you see what I'm asking?

LL: Yeah, the Ranger, he told me that he checked every, you know, to see if there was any calls out there or state troopers or anything, and there was no one out there. I don't know if anybody was broken down, but Brandon was really nice. I think what worries me the most is, if Brandon ran out of gas and he asked someone for help, because Brandon was real nice. Brandon didn't know a stranger. He was just an outgoing person, and he would also help anybody. He would give the shirt off his back to anybody but, I mean, he could've asked for help and something could've happened to Brandon. I don't know. Or Brandon could've been scared running and he could've got bit by a snake or he could've hit his head or fell in the brush or something bad like that. I really don't know.
 
Brandon Lawson Timeline
Aug 8 11:53pm Brandon left his house (PI timeline 11:54/Blogtalk 11:53)
Aug 9 12:10am Kyle went to Brandon/LL&#8217;s house to check on Ladessa (PI timeline)
Aug 9 12:30am Kyle called Ladessa and said Brandon was out of gas and said he needed gas cans (PI timeline)
Aug 9 12:34am Ladessa had missed call from Brandon/phone charging in van and she did not know (PI timeline)
Aug 9 12:36am Ladessa had missed call from Brandon/phone charging in van and she did not know (PI timeline)
Aug 9 12:38am Brandon called Kyle saying he ran out of gas (Blogtalk transcripts)

What are the correct times for when Brandon called Kyle saying he ran out of gas and Kyle called Ladessa saying Brandon ran out of gas and she told him to come get the gas cans?

Kyle couldn't have called Ladessa at 12:30 if he did not receive the call from Brandon until 12:38.
 
Another point I find interesting from the blogtalk transcripts. Ladessa was only asked if Brandon had been drinking, nothing about drugs or if he was under the influence of anything. I find it interesting that she said no he wasn't drinking but then went on to explain the drug past in a round about way.

Caller: <snip> Had Brandon or you been drinking at all that night?

LL: No, uh-uh.

Caller: Okay. Because I know that can be a factor and I just wanted to clear that part up too, in case there was any question.

LL: Brandon does have a, Brandon's been to prison a couple of times but they were like, not really big charges but when he was younger. It took Brandon a little bit to grow up but he was a good person. He would do anything for anybody and he was a good dad and he worked hard for his kids and for me and to support us. We were fortunate enough that I got to stay at home for a little bit with the kids and he worked and made all the money. I mean, he was good to us. He would do anything for his family, so I don't understand why this has happened, you know?
 
Psychic Sleuth said:
Brandon Lawson Timeline
Aug 8 11:53pm Brandon left his house (PI timeline 11:54/Blogtalk 11:53)
Aug 9 12:10am Kyle went to Brandon/LL’s house to check on Ladessa (PI timeline)
Aug 9 12:30am Kyle called Ladessa and said Brandon was out of gas and said he needed gas cans (PI timeline)
Aug 9 12:34am Ladessa had missed call from Brandon/phone charging in van and she did not know (PI timeline)
Aug 9 12:36am Ladessa had missed call from Brandon/phone charging in van and she did not know (PI timeline)
Aug 9 12:38am Brandon called Kyle saying he ran out of gas (Blogtalk transcripts)

What are the correct times for when Brandon called Kyle saying he ran out of gas and Kyle called Ladessa saying Brandon ran out of gas and she told him to come get the gas cans?

Kyle couldn't have called Ladessa at 12:30 if he did not receive the call from Brandon until 12:38.
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There's more to this timeline than is being shown. Brandon left his home and 15 minutes later his brother shows up to check on things? Then 20 minutes later he calls Ladessa? Four minutes later Ladessa's phone is in a vehicle being charged so she misses calls from Brandon? The times just don't seem right, especially, as you point out, about the "out of gas" calls.
 
techpuppy said:
There's more to this timeline than is being shown. Brandon left his home and 15 minutes later his brother shows up to check on things? Then 20 minutes later he calls Ladessa? Four minutes later Ladessa's phone is in a vehicle being charged so she misses calls from Brandon? The times just don't seem right, especially, as you point out, about the "out of gas" calls.
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Agreed.

I wish we knew the correct times of when Brandon called Kyle/Kyle called Ladessa re Brandon being out of gas. If it was 12:38 then how did Ladessa get Kyle's call and not Brandon's? The phone was in the van charging no? And why would the phone be in the van charging? To our knowledge she had not gone anywhere that night. Or had she?

Or say Kyle called Ladessa at 12:30 to tell her Brandon was out of gas and he needed the gas cans. So immediately thereafter she puts the gas cans on the porch for Kyle and runs outside to the van to put her phone in it to charge? Then she falls asleep and leaves the phone in the van? But upon awakening at 4:30am she runs outside to the van and gets her phone?
 
awhimsicalt said:
I agree.

Even with the odd time frames of the calls, what stumps me is when did Ladessa retrieve her phone from the van so that she would receive the call from Kyle?
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WELCOME AWHIMSICALT! great to have new thoughts and insight here anytime!
 
I read that Ladessa told Kyle she was putting the gas cans on the porch and was going to take a shower and go to bed. Is it possible the gas cans were already on the porch?
Was Ladessa really home when Kyle arrived to get the gas cans? Was she home when he went to check on her? Was the van there? Was anyone else at her house that night? I also read that the argument was over Brandon thinking Ladessa was cheating on him. This was on fb I believe so should be considered rumor and not fact, but what if?
 
I can not get my mind off Brandon's disappearance and the circumstances surrounding it. So tragic for his family and especially those children...

The 911 call by the trucker regarding Brandon's vehicle is important to the timeline and is a potentionally large piece of the puzzle, IMO. Here is the only info I can find regarding this. According to the wife/gf (referred to as LL);

Transcript of BlogTalk Radio interview with Brandon Lawson's wife, Part 1
January 27, 2014 (provided by OkieGranny!)
H = Host

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/newcolo...day-with-orion


BBM

LL: And also, there was a second 911 call. The only thing that I'm not sure about is I don't know if Brandon called 911 first or if the truck driver did. But I'm pretty positive Brandon called 911 first, and then the truck driver called afterwards because he almost hit Brandon's truck because it was parked on the highway, and on 277 you can go pretty fast there, like 75 miles an hour. So he called 911 telling them that he almost hit a vehicle.

H: Okay. And that truck driver didn't seem like he (unintelligible).

LL: Yeah, I don't know who the truck driver is. I haven talked to him. I don't know his name. The cops talked to him.

H: Oh, okay, so the cops did make contact with him?

LL: Yeah, they told me that they, when I talked to WM, he told me he did.
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Is this trucker a witness to whatever happened to Brandon, and/or other vehicle(s), people, on that stretch of highway?

Also weird to me that trucker tells 911 he almost hit Brandon's car yet LE doesn't have it towed until the next morning. Furthermore, I would think that if Brandon left his vehicle partly in the road in the pitch black night, he would have turned the flashers on.

However, "Coke County locked the truck doors and turned on the flashers", according to the PI.
https://m.facebook.com/helpfindbrandonlawson/posts/148087428733673


Also wanted to add that my interpretation regarding why Kyle went to Ladessa's house prior to Brandon calling about being out of gas was to just to check on her. According to the PI:

Last seen August 8, 2013 at home with wife at (XXXX Address, San Angelo, Tx 76907.) Had a conversation with wife (common law, 10 years together) Ladessa Lofton. As the conversation became heated Brandon took his keys, wallet, cell phone, and the clothes he was wearing and prepared to leave. He grabbed a yellow shirt, Tap-Out camo shorts, white Nike Airmax 2013 shoes. Ladessa called Brandon’s parents concerned. Brandon called his dad and left the house at 11:54 PM.

08/09/2013 Approx 12:10 AM Kyle, Brandon’s brother, came over to check on Ladessa then he left.
08/09/2013 Approx 12:30 AM Kyle called Ladessa and said that Brandon ran out of gas and Ladessa asked Kyle to take the gas can, get it filled, and bring it to Brandon. Kyle took the gas can and left.
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IMO, Brandon's parents asked Kyle to go make sure Ladessa and the kids were okay after the fight/argument.
 
AzPistonsGirl said:
WELCOME AWHIMSICALT! great to have new thoughts and insight here anytime!
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Thank you. I've been reading different cases on here for a couple of weeks and decided to join in. Please be patient as I learn how.

I've listened to that 911 call as well as read others thoughts on what has been said. Also, with being from a different area than Texas, I know pronunciation and how we refer to things can be different. So, I'm curious in the 911 call and ow others have interpreted what is said, in TX do the call them cops? State troopers? Or what? Also where he says something about "in fact......going toward Abilene on both sides," is he possibly talking about the deputy/cop/trooper driving down the road and then coming back up? Wouldn't there only be one way to Abilene?
 
awhimsicalt said:
Thank you. I've been reading different cases on here for a couple of weeks and decided to join in. Please be patient as I learn how.

I've listened to that 911 call as well as read others thoughts on what has been said. Also, with being from a different area than Texas, I know pronunciation and how we refer to things can be different. So, I'm curious in the 911 call and ow others have interpreted what is said, in TX do the call them cops? State troopers? Or what? Also where he says something about "in fact......going toward Abilene on both sides," is he possibly talking about the deputy/cop/trooper driving down the road and then coming back up? Wouldn't there only be one way to Abilene?
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Here in CA we call them all "cops" and that would include sheriff, police and highway patrol. In Texas highway patrol are called state troopers. Here, sheriff covers county, police cover city and highway patrol covers roads/highways.

Yes, the both sides comment makes little sense.
 
yes, I agree re both sides - it was something else I meant to ask about here. What does that even mean? How can both sides (of a road) lead to the same place? An odd thing to say, so I am thinking that is not exactly what was said - or is snipped and that is why it makes no sense.

I have listened, but have read the transcripts here so much that all I hear are the same words repeated here.

Why is this case so odd? Why are so many cases I have been reading here lately so odd? Hypothetical question of course...
 
Psychic Sleuth said:
I read that Ladessa told Kyle she was putting the gas cans on the porch and was going to take a shower and go to bed. Is it possible the gas cans were already on the porch?
Was Ladessa really home when Kyle arrived to get the gas cans? Was she home when he went to check on her? Was the van there? Was anyone else at her house that night? I also read that the argument was over Brandon thinking Ladessa was cheating on him. This was on fb I believe so should be considered rumor and not fact, but what if?
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Bbm... When I read that it brought me back to thinking maybe he had taken drugs and may not in his right mind?
 
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